This is a classic case of:
"Just because you can, doesn't mean you should (take wedding pix)".
"Just because you can, doesn't mean you should (take wedding pix)".
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dak723 said:OP - Have you informed the photographer that you are critiquing their photos and linking their website so that others can critique their photos? Have you given them a chance to respond to your criticisms?
Unless they are a member here and have asked for advice - this sort of unsolicited critiquing of someone else's work seem totally inappropriate to me.
Would you like it if someone - without your knowledge - was criticizing your photographic skills and asking others to critique your work on the internet (or elsewhere). I know I wouldn't.
drmikeinpdx said:Personally, I think that looking at the work of other photographers is an important part of my artistic and professional development.
Obviously, I get good ideas from photographers who are better than I am.
But also important is what I learn from looking at photos that are poorly done, at least to my eyes. It teaches me what to avoid. I'm sure my brain has a long list of photo problems to watch out for subconsciously during a shoot.
takesome1 said:Do you look for someone fatter and uglier than you when you go out clubbing so you look better by comparison?
What is the point of critiquing random photographers other than to demonstrate you think you have a superior skill set. It is petty.
Eldar said:If this was someone´s Flikr account, I fully agree that it would be inappropriate. But this is someone who is selling his/her services openly and these are the bragging images. Given that, I have no problem with the starting point for the thread.
I wonder though, if the photographer has his/her customers acceptance for publishing all these images ..
takesome1 said:Eldar said:If this was someone´s Flikr account, I fully agree that it would be inappropriate. But this is someone who is selling his/her services openly and these are the bragging images. Given that, I have no problem with the starting point for the thread.
I wonder though, if the photographer has his/her customers acceptance for publishing all these images ..
I think you are making an assumption that this guy is selling services as a wedding photographer.
Maybe he is, maybe he posted the pictures on photo-bucket so friends could print it.
takesome1 said:I think this thread should be deleted since the same link posted at the start will lead you to a photo of a customs receipt that gives you this guys personal home address.
takesome1 said:Here is his email if you would like to let him defend himself
He/she/they would be a welcome guest, at least in my mind. Those years of experience has a lot to share.takesome1 said:Fair enough.
If he reads it, it might be an interesting start to his weekend.
jdramirez said:Here is a copy of the email I sent.
Michael,
I'm a local photographer with some proficient skills. Last night I came across your advertisement for wedding photography on Craigslist (in the photography gear section). I perused your images/catalog with the link provided and I wasn't impressed.
My initial response wasn't how could you sell these services, but rather who would look at these sample images and as a consequence, desire to hire you. I realize the wording is quite harsh, but I don't write to be mean. Rather I write to explain that I linked the images on a forum for discussion.
I saw technically lacking in the images in regards to framing, lighting, focusing, etc. The consensus of many was that there are many offerings available and your services may be at the low end of the marketplace.
I won't hide that I have been a vocal critic of the sample images. Some in the thread thought it was not fair to criticize the work presented without allowing you the opportunity to voice a counter argument.
The link has since been redacted as root folders lead to personal information which need not be disseminated. If you would like to participate in this frank and admittedly uncomplementary discussion, we would welcome your voice and perspective.
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=25994.0
-Joe D.
JClark said:jdramirez said:Here is a copy of the email I sent.
Michael,
I'm a local photographer with some proficient skills. Last night I came across your advertisement for wedding photography on Craigslist (in the photography gear section). I perused your images/catalog with the link provided and I wasn't impressed.
My initial response wasn't how could you sell these services, but rather who would look at these sample images and as a consequence, desire to hire you. I realize the wording is quite harsh, but I don't write to be mean. Rather I write to explain that I linked the images on a forum for discussion.
I saw technically lacking in the images in regards to framing, lighting, focusing, etc. The consensus of many was that there are many offerings available and your services may be at the low end of the marketplace.
I won't hide that I have been a vocal critic of the sample images. Some in the thread thought it was not fair to criticize the work presented without allowing you the opportunity to voice a counter argument.
The link has since been redacted as root folders lead to personal information which need not be disseminated. If you would like to participate in this frank and admittedly uncomplementary discussion, we would welcome your voice and perspective.
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=25994.0
-Joe D.
That's just... wow. I really can't imagine my reaction if some random stranger sent me that, unsolicited, for apparently no reason whatsoever. Jeebus.