Official Canon EOS 6D Mark II Sample Images and Videos

[Neutron_K]

Late to the party.

However, mind methodologies.

DR here is sensor response to light. When they test it, it was tested against a gray scale image. Color is another story...

well, let me tell you those are excellent news and let me explain why:

the buzz:

"... The 6D2 only achieves about 11.9 EV of dynamic range, once scaled to the standard DXO metrics..."

the fact:

Canon 5D IV Photographic Dynamic Range at ISO 100: 10.83 EV
Canon 6D Photographic Dynamic Range at ISO 100: 9.3 EV
Canon 80D Photographic Dynamic Range at ISO 100: 10.06 EV

proof is in the pudding, right here:

http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm

I like 11.9 number better than 10.83.
Seriously. there is no reliable data to draw a conclusion. Relax and wait for DXO people to crunch their numbers first. There is nothing to be concerned about at this stage. enjoy your weekend.

There are some bad news appearing on the FM forums, re the DR being worse than even 80D and not changed from the original 6D. I guess we will have to wait, but I can't believe Canon would not put an on-chip ADC in there, nor I can believe they would compromise the camera this way. Gee, I have mine on preorder ....

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1497323/25#14098826

 

[arbitrage]

IQ = DR?
I think that the most funny thing you can read in these forums is people claiming that the 5D3 has very bad IQ, that statements show how much they know about IQ

But some people apparently believe just that, including some otherwise very rational and intelligent individuals (e.g., one poster who claimed the 5DIII has "...poor, sub-par, unacceptable IQ,").

Sometimes it seems that some people was cheated with somebody with a 5D3 in the hand.
A user called Arbitage on fred miranda forum is the best example. So much lies only could be maintened if you were very emotionaly damaged, I can't find another reason.

Was my comment really that bad that you assume I'm emotionally damaged? I made one mention of the 5D3 and it was only in relation to 6-stop pushing on DPR's Exposure Latitude chart.

I replied to your similar comment over on FM now that I know it was directed at me after reading this comment. Next time use the quote feature on FM and then I can reply to you directly to clear the air.

Coming onto an entire different forum and bad mouthing me is pretty immature and rude.

 

[Jack Douglas]

Immature and rude? Just a typical CR new camera thread. It baffles me what comes over people.

Jack

 

[SecureGSM]

well, it was a joke. but welcome to the party

Late to the party.

However, mind methodologies.

DR here is sensor response to light. When they test it, it was tested against a gray scale image. Color is another story...

well, let me tell you those are excellent news and let me explain why:

the buzz:

"... The 6D2 only achieves about 11.9 EV of dynamic range, once scaled to the standard DXO metrics..."

the fact:

Canon 5D IV Photographic Dynamic Range at ISO 100: 10.83 EV
Canon 6D Photographic Dynamic Range at ISO 100: 9.3 EV
Canon 80D Photographic Dynamic Range at ISO 100: 10.06 EV

proof is in the pudding, right here:

http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm

I like 11.9 number better than 10.83.
Seriously. there is no reliable data to draw a conclusion. Relax and wait for DXO people to crunch their numbers first. There is nothing to be concerned about at this stage. enjoy your weekend.

There are some bad news appearing on the FM forums, re the DR being worse than even 80D and not changed from the original 6D. I guess we will have to wait, but I can't believe Canon would not put an on-chip ADC in there, nor I can believe they would compromise the camera this way. Gee, I have mine on preorder ....

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1497323/25#14098826

 

[Talys]

Wow, those sample pictures are indicative of... NOTHING! LOL. Oh well. Neither are any other sample pictures I can remember, so at least this isn't precedent-setting

I think it will just come down to, when the camera lands, whether I'm happy with the pictures that come out of it taking photos the way I take them. I suspect there will be some new-gadget-euphoria that totally biases my judgement, such that even on pictures that are provably indistinguishable, I'll be happy.

And there will be some edge cases where the pictures will be way better, where I'll be ecstatic, but in the next 5 years, I'll never take a photo in that scenario.

 

[bclaff]

well, let me tell you those are excellent news and let me explain why:

the buzz:

"... The 6D2 only achieves about 11.9 EV of dynamic range, once scaled to the standard DXO metrics..."

the fact:

Canon 5D IV Photographic Dynamic Range at ISO 100: 10.83 EV
Canon 6D Photographic Dynamic Range at ISO 100: 9.3 EV
Canon 80D Photographic Dynamic Range at ISO 100: 10.06 EV

proof is in the pudding, right here:

http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm

I like 11.9 number better than 10.83.
Seriously. there is no reliable data to draw a conclusion. Relax and wait for DXO people to crunch their numbers first.

There are some bad news appearing on the FM forums, re the DR being worse than even 80D and not changed from the original 6D. I guess we will have to wait, but I can't believe Canon would not put an on-chip ADC in there, nor I can believe they would compromise the camera this way. Gee, I have mine on preorder ....

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1497323/25#14098826

@SecureGSM - Oops, "apples and oranges" the 11.9EV is not Photographic Dynamic Range (PDR) which is currently estimated at 8.80
Naturally I consider the measurements at PhotonsToPhotos (my site) to be at least as reliable as those at DxOMark.
@pekr - Yeah, the shape of the PDR curve seems to indicate that the ADC is not on-chip.

 

[bclaff]

Late to the party.

However, mind methodologies.

DR here is sensor response to light. When they test it, it was tested against a gray scale image. Color is another story...

FWIW, Garcia tests using masked pixels which is equivalent to a black frame, not a gray scale.
He uses read noise in a well understood way to predict what the DxOMark Landscape Score will be.
(DxOMark does use "gray scale" to construct a complete SNR curve)

Photographic Dynamic Range (PDR) at PhotonsToPhotos processes each channel (R, Gr, Gb, B) separately and does use several different brightnesses; so that's like 4 gray scale images.
It constructs a partial SNR curve, enough of the shadows to compute PDR.
The algorithm is fundamentally different from that at DxOMark (Garcia).

Garcia and PDR are in agreement that the 6D Mark II dynamic range falls short of the 6D.

 

[SecureGSM]

yes, Sir. I was mucking around.

@SecureGSM - Oops, "apples and oranges" the 11.9EV is not Photographic Dynamic Range (PDR) which is currently estimated at 8.80
Naturally I consider the measurements at PhotonsToPhotos (my site) to be at least as reliable as those at DxOMark.
@pekr - Yeah, the shape of the PDR curve seems to indicate that the ADC is not on-chip.

 

[neuroanatomist]

l
Naturally I consider the measurements at PhotonsToPhotos (my site) to be at least as reliable as those at DxOMark.

Oh, at least!

The difference is, you don't take those reliable measurements and fold, spindle and mutilate them through some black box algorithm with undisclosed weightings, and generate a useless 'score'. Nor do you produce your own camera, then take a RAW file which averages multiple shots and use that to generate reliable measurements that artificially make your camera look better. So...thanks!

 

[Jack Douglas]

PhotonsToPhotos - interesting site I was unaware of. Good stuff. However not being formally trained in photography my poor brain often feels like it wants to give up, but I won't let it!

Jack

 

[steveningle]

I actually find the 6D MKII great for video, i've used it for several projects at my work as a Campervan Conversion specialist. I get the feeling it's geared towards Vlogging.. Here's a little video test from it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceOYf6QfwWI

 

[Jack Douglas]

I actually find the 6D MKII great for video, i've used it for several projects at my work as a Campervan Conversion specialist. I get the feeling it's geared towards Vlogging.. Here's a little video test from it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceOYf6QfwWI

You've impressed me for what that's worth!

Jack