Patent: The Next Prosumer DSLR to Get Illuminated Buttons?

symmar22

EOS 80D
Jun 19, 2013
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Memirsbrunnr said:
What no one seems to commend on is that this seems to imply there is not going to be a titly flippy screen on the 6D mark 3.. this has me disappointed a little
My guess is the 6D3 will keep the tilty screen but won't have the illuminated buttons, they'll make the feature available on higher end models only (7D, 5D, 1D). That means that these cameras won't have a tilty screen either, unless Canon found a way to combine tilty screen and button illumination.
 

zim

EOR R
Oct 18, 2011
1,863
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With a properly designed touch screen I'd expect (want), top plate excluded all those buttons to disappear to make room for a bigger screen. No need for backlight.
 

Memirsbrunnr

EOS T7i
Nov 19, 2017
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symmar22 said:
Memirsbrunnr said:
What no one seems to commend on is that this seems to imply there is not going to be a titly flippy screen on the 6D mark 3.. this has me disappointed a little
My guess is the 6D3 will keep the tilty screen but won't have the illuminated buttons, they'll make the feature available on higher end models only (7D, 5D, 1D). That means that these cameras won't have a tilty screen either, unless Canon found a way to combine tilty screen and button illumination.
Dammit typo I meant of course 7D mark 3, rather have the flippy then illuminated buttons
 

shunsai

EOS 80D
Oct 15, 2011
191
58
It would be even nicer if they offered this as a hardware upgrade. This is long overdue, and not enough of a selling point in and of itself to upgrade from a 5D IV to a V. But I would be willing to pay a reasonable price for the upgrade.
 

slclick

Blessed Be The Fruit Loops
Dec 17, 2013
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I have never had an issue with this after 28 years with Canon dslrs. Now, any other mfg? Yeah, no one has the ergonomics and sensible layout that Canon has. Don't get me started on menus either.
 

djack41

EOS 80D
Jul 12, 2014
124
51
Nice but a tilting LCD touch screen would be far more useful. Get with the program, Canon. The 7D3 had better match or exceed the features and performance of the awesome Nikon D500.
 

CanonFanBoy

EOS 5D MK IV
Jan 28, 2015
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Irving, Texas
Yasko said:
Mikehit said:
I wonder how you can patent illuminated buttons? There must be some fancy stuff going on in there - a miniature genetically engineered glow worm, perhaps?
German manufacturer Leica has a patent on illuminated controls of superresolution microscopes, prohibiting the competition to e.g. use illuminated keyboards (standard market components) or wheel controls... anything is possible in the F_____ up world of patent rights.
I highly doubt other manufacturers can't incorporate illuminated keyboards or controls on their products. They just have to be designed differently enough to not infringe on Leica's design.

Look at all the different mice, keyboards, motherboards, memory chips, batteries, cpu's, or a million other products that are similar, but with different patents held by many different companies and sold on the open market.

I don't see how that is messed up. A person or company that designs a product ought to have their intellectual property protected. This does not stifle the market. Instead, it breeds variety and competition and creativity. Allowing somebody to pirate a design destroys those things. Does Leica manufacturer the controls? Does Leica have an exclusive license to all manufactured illuminated keyboards? I doubt it. Just look at all the hundreds of choices of tires for your car. Each choice is patented. Every design is a little different. Patents are held by dozens of different manufacturers for thousands of different designs.

It isn't that Leica owns all patents to all illuminated keyboards. It sounds more like the competition is lazy or unable to innovate.

Closer to home, just look at all your lens choices. That is made possible in large part due to patent protections.
 

CanonFanBoy

EOS 5D MK IV
Jan 28, 2015
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Irving, Texas
djack41 said:
Get with the program, Canon. The 7D3 had better match or exceed the features and performance of the awesome Nikon D500.
Or what? Gonna jump ship? ::) ::) ::)

Something some folks are missing is that the patent is for the way Canon designs the hardware and implementation of the buttons. As such, the patent doesn't need to show which body they are on or even where they are on the body.
 

rrcphoto

EOS 5D MK IV
Jun 20, 2013
2,505
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CanonFanBoy said:
djack41 said:
Get with the program, Canon. The 7D3 had better match or exceed the features and performance of the awesome Nikon D500.
Or what? Gonna jump ship? ::) ::) ::)

Something some folks are missing is that the patent is for the way Canon designs the hardware and implementation of the buttons. As such, the patent doesn't need to show which body they are on or even where they are on the body.
doesn't need to. agreed. however this patent definitely shows a 7D or 5D camera body because of the button layout and the AF joystick.
 

SkynetTX

EOS 80D
Jul 29, 2016
147
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Budapest, Hungary
KeithBreazeal said:
Those of us that do a lot of night photography know where the buttons are.
Knowing your camera is part of the fun. :)
Have to agree. There's no need to illuminate the buttons if you know your camera and know where they are. If Canon adds this feature to any cameras it should be turned off by default and turned on only in the settings menu. By the way, are you sure that the illumination won't disturb you in composing the pictures?
 

Mt Spokane Photography

I post too Much on Here!!
Mar 25, 2011
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KeithBreazeal said:
Those of us that do a lot of night photography know where the buttons are.
Knowing your camera is part of the fun. :)
While I agree, I also have little feeling ability in my fingers, zero is a better description, so I sometimes hit the wrong button or just lose the right one, and find myself wishing they were lighted.
 

Hector1970

EOS 6D MK II
Mar 22, 2012
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I'm sure it will drain batteries a little but i'd welcome illuminated buttons.
If its a 7D3 hopefully they'll focus on image quality first.
 

whothafunk

EOS RP
Apr 17, 2013
260
1
Hector1970 said:
I'm sure it will drain batteries a little but i'd welcome illuminated buttons.
If its a 7D3 hopefully they'll focus on image quality first.
with the 7D3, they need to focus on AF and ISO. D500 (albeit newer) smokes it out of the water, too many people had issues with 7D2's AF inconsistency, including myself and I'm really glad I got rid of that body. Not looking at crop sensors anymore, but would love to see 7D3 really become the king of crop sensors.
 

CanonFanBoy

EOS 5D MK IV
Jan 28, 2015
3,302
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Irving, Texas
SkynetTX said:
KeithBreazeal said:
Those of us that do a lot of night photography know where the buttons are.
Knowing your camera is part of the fun. :)
Have to agree. There's no need to illuminate the buttons if you know your camera and know where they are. If Canon adds this feature to any cameras it should be turned off by default and turned on only in the settings menu. By the way, are you sure that the illumination won't disturb you in composing the pictures?
There's no need for rubber tires either. Just ride the rims. Gets the job done.
 

Mikehit

EOS 5D MK IV
Jul 28, 2015
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CanonFanBoy said:
There's no need for rubber tires either. Just ride the rims. Gets the job done.
Rims are designed to have tyres on them so no, it won't get the job done.