Review: Sigma 105mm f/1.4 DG ART HSM

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Dustin Abbott has completed his extensive review of the Sigma 105mm f/1.4 DG ART HSM which is available in the Canon EF mount. Nikon shooters have their own native Nikkor 105mm f/1.4, but the only option for Canon is this new Sigma Art series prime.
Buy the Sigma 105mm f/1.4 DG ART HSM at Adorama
I have yet to get my hands on one of these lenses, but it’s definitely going to find a place in my kit in the near future.
Dustin came away impressed with the Sigma with a few caveats:
Sigma has once again successfully created an extreme optical instrument. Tackling a project like a 105mm lens with a huge maximum aperture of f/1.4 is not for the faint of heart, and yet I see evidence of growing maturation as Sigma manages to get more and more right. There’s no question that the extreme size and weight of the 105 ART will be off-putting to many, but those with a little extra...
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The review noted much improved autofocus performance in the last three Sigma lenses the author had reviewed.

this lens IS supported by Canon’s Lens Aberration Corrections in camera [...] Sigma has gotten access to this (most likely through some kind of internal agreement with Canon) [...] The 105 ART is the third Sigma lens in the past few months that I’ve reviewed that has been supported

My experience with the last three Sigma lenses has been radically different than all of the previous Sigma ART series lenses I have reviewed [...] Interestingly, this has also coincided with Sigma having access to Canon’s Lens Aberration Correction (in camera correction of things like vignette and chromatic aberrations for JPEGs). This makes me wonder if Sigma has not entered into some kind of silent (as far as the public goes) agreement with Canon that gives them access not only to the Lens Aberration Correction (something no third-party lens maker had access to before) but also Canon’s focus algorithms. The Sigma 14-24mm f/2.8 ART and this 105 ART have behaved very much like first party lenses.
Any speculation as to whether Sigma has been given official access to Canon's AF algorithms and what, if anything, would be in it for Canon?

My guess is avoiding pointlessly costly anti-monopoly complaints - if Sigma could demonstrate Canon had actively worked against third party lens manufacturers they may have had a strong case that was resolved with a bit of cooperation from Canon.
 
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Let's not forget that many years ago Canon Inc. had designs on Sigma Corp. It was rumoured that they offered x5 the company's value to the owners to sell to them.

Obviously, Sigma's lens design facilities and their manufacturing automatisation were and possibly still are industry leading.

Could it be possible that there have been technology exchanges between the two companies? Maybe Sigma has shared manufacturing processes with Canon in exchange for access to autofocus algorithms? Not impossible, since Canon is moving to full automatisation with respect to most of their lenses.

Alternatively, this cooperation may be a way for Canon to get a foot in the door so that if an opportunity arises in the future for someone to acquire Sigma Corp. they have first dibs.

Just some thoughts.
 

Sporgon

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Tamron seem to have got the Canon AF sorted for some time now, certainly my 45 and 85 SP focus as accurately as my Canon ones, so maybe Sigma are just catching on.

Regarding a tie up I suppose that if Canon is going to have to develop a range of new mount lenses in a hurry they’d be able to do it quicker with help from Sigma - or Tamron as Ricoh Pentax seem to have done.
 

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Tamron seem to have got the Canon AF sorted for some time now, certainly my 45 and 85 SP focus as accurately as my Canon ones, so maybe Sigma are just catching on.

Regarding a tie up I suppose that if Canon is going to have to develop a range of new mount lenses in a hurry they’d be able to do it quicker with help from Sigma - or Tamron as Ricoh Pentax seem to have done.
I agree with your point regarding Tamron, except that I've typically achieved those results after some work with the Tap In. The last three Sigma lenses that I've reviewed (all of which were supported in Canon's Lens Aberration Corrections) have not needed ANY calibration to work exceptionally well. I'm finding it hard to believe that Sigma suddenly made that much improvement on their own.
 

Sporgon

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I agree with your point regarding Tamron, except that I've typically achieved those results after some work with the Tap In. The last three Sigma lenses that I've reviewed (all of which were supported in Canon's Lens Aberration Corrections) have not needed ANY calibration to work exceptionally well. I'm finding it hard to believe that Sigma suddenly made that much improvement on their own.
Agreed that a sudden improvement from annoying to perfect on the Sigma would suggest a helping hand.

Incidentally both my Tamrons, the 45 and 85 SP are 0 AFMA at all three settings. Initially my 45 needed some AFMA but after sending it back to Tamron UK for the firmware up date to allow using the Tap-in consule, and stating I was using it on a 5DS, it was perfect at all distances when returned !
 

wanako

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Tamron seem to have got the Canon AF sorted for some time now, certainly my 45 and 85 SP focus as accurately as my Canon ones, so maybe Sigma are just catching on.
I also have the SP45 and SP85 and they are stunningly good lenses. I have not had any issues with AF as I did with several Sigmas.
 

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I also have the SP45 and SP85 and they are stunningly good lenses. I have not had any issues with AF as I did with several Sigmas.
Ditto for me. I finally sold the 45 VC after adding Sony to my kit only because the Sony Zeiss Planar 50mm f/1.4, while expensive, is probably the best all-round 50mm lens I've ever reviewed. I bought one and then considered the Tamron unnecessary, so I sold it to underwrite a bit of the cost of buying the Sony.
 
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Let's not forget that many years ago Canon Inc. had designs on Sigma Corp. It was rumoured that they offered x5 the company's value to the owners to sell to them.

Obviously, Sigma's lens design facilities and their manufacturing automatisation were and possibly still are industry leading.

Could it be possible that there have been technology exchanges between the two companies? Maybe Sigma has shared manufacturing processes with Canon in exchange for access to autofocus algorithms? Not impossible, since Canon is moving to full automatisation with respect to most of their lenses.
When the 'Canon wants to buy Sigma' rumor surfaced, I recall reading that Canon would have been interested in Sigma's foveon technology. This interest may still exist.
 

wanako

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Ditto for me. I finally sold the 45 VC after adding Sony to my kit only because the Sony Zeiss Planar 50mm f/1.4, while expensive, is probably the best all-round 50mm lens I've ever reviewed. I bought one and then considered the Tamron unnecessary, so I sold it to underwrite a bit of the cost of buying the Sony.
My brother! Dude, I actually bought both of those lenses due to your very thorough and very informative reviews of them. I love both these lenses and the 45 never leaves my 6DII. Thank you for the work you do. I find it quite helpful to myself, and I'm sure to the community, as well.
 

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My brother! Dude, I actually bought both of those lenses due to your very thorough and very informative reviews of them. I love both these lenses and the 45 never leaves my 6DII. Thank you for the work you do. I find it quite helpful to myself, and I'm sure to the community, as well.
Nice. I hope Tamron continues to develop reasonably sized prime lenses. I love some of the new Sigma lenses (like this 105), but they are too big to just throw in the bag and bring along.