Rumors flying in on the Nikon FF mirrorless

ahsanford

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Two bigger scoops just surfaced at NR.

First, a firm one -- more trademarking:

NIKONOS = Nikon Operating System... or actually the platform's brand name?​

Second, just a rumor but a detailed one:

A platform built-around high end primes?! The f/0.95 prime we've been hearing about is real?! That is the opposite of small if true.​

- A
 
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the 0.95 lenses are just a psyhological band aid for Nikon/ians for not having f/1.2 or faster lenses for such a long time. not important to 99.9% of digital imaging gear users. simply bragging rights. marketing cr*p.

first paragraph: "will focus on high end primes" ...

next bullet point: expecting 50/1.8 plus 24 or 28 or 35 f/1.8 prime and 24-70 f/4 zoom as starting lineup ...

i call those "moderate aperture" lenses. all of these could be made in very compact size as well. although Nikon seems to go for "chunky" with z6 and z7, sort of "poor man's Leica SL system". it will be priced too high for what it is. and next stop maybe a nice 299 fire sale. :p:D

overall quite funny. :)
 
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Nikonos ... cannot imagine Nikon to use it generally for their mirrorfree lineup. that brand name (still) holds good value for underwater imaging gear. quite surprising that they apparently let it expire in 2008 and even more surprising that none of the "brand name vultures" has snatched it.
 
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those 1.8 primes make perfect sense; good IQ and still light to carry in the field.

I'm not sure chunky is the best way to describe them; I have a feeling the ergonomics of these camera's will be superior vs every other mirrorless camera we've ever seen. Not sure if these 0.95 lenses will go very well; they will be expensive for sure and for the majority of photographers not the most used ones. For portraits with a certain look yes, I could see them being interesting.

If Nikon does something, they usually do it right. Remember the D850, which maybe the perfect dslr?
 
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those 1.8 primes make perfect sense; good IQ and still light to carry in the field.
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If Nikon does something, they usually do it right. Remember the D850, which maybe the perfect dslr?

I am all in favor of compact, light, decent IQ, "moderately fast", affordable primes for FF mirrorfree system. :)

Nikon D850 - yes. But remember the excellent teasers followed by sub-par Nikon Df? :)
 
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yeah the DF wasn't that much of a succes. I sincerely hope they learned from that and will release a kick ass mirrorless system! Would be good for everyone.
 
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If image on Nikon Rumors is legitimate, I am surprised there are not 2 separate buttons for AF-ON Button [BBF] and AE-Lock!? Is this just part of the marketing-nerfing differentiation for lower-end model (Z6) or on both Z6 and Z7?

Quite different UI setup compared to Nikon DSLRs. And why "Play" and "Delete" Buttons on right side, but "Drive speed" on left side? Looks to be optimized for "Shoot / Chimp / F-word / Delete" :p :D

https://nikonrumors.com/2018/08/13/...-58mm-f-0-95-lens-to-be-announced-later.aspx/

 
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further observation: is rear display articulated or not? Looks like "not" to me? Or "only half-ass, useless in portrait mode tilty, not fully"?
 

BillB

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further observation: is rear display articulated or not? Looks like "not" to me? Or "only half-ass, useless in portrait mode tilty, not fully"?
I think I've seen other pictures with the screen swung out from the camera body 180 degrees.
 

Sporgon

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Two bigger scoops just surfaced at NR.

First, a firm one -- more trademarking:

NIKONOS = Nikon Operating System... or actually the platform's brand name?​

Second, just a rumor but a detailed one:

A platform built-around high end primes?! The f/0.95 prime we've been hearing about is real?! That is the opposite of small if true.​

- A
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The Nikonos name has been used by Nikon since the early '60s for their Nikonos under water camera.
 
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The Nikonos name has been used by Nikon since the early '60s for their Nikonos under water camera.
yes, but they abandoned the system in 2001. Trademark apparently expired back in 2008. So now Nikon apparently has re-registered the trademark. And who knows, they might bring future mirrorfree new Nikonos underwater cameras.
 

Aglet

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The control layout of this looks quite workable .. except the PLAY and AE/F-lock+AF/MF control choice is a bit off IMO>
Swapping the function of those 2 buttons would suffice to improve operability. AF/MF lever could would be OK in same location with the PLAY button.
Joystick would be good if 9-way function so straight press returns to center or preset AF point.
D-pad lockout (?) looks good. Other control locations are probably OK.
Looking forward to how it feels in my hand and the lightness in my step after my wallet is relieved of its burden.

If image on Nikon Rumors is legitimate, I am surprised there are not 2 separate buttons for AF-ON Button [BBF] and AE-Lock!? Is this just part of the marketing-nerfing differentiation for lower-end model (Z6) or on both Z6 and Z7?

Quite different UI setup compared to Nikon DSLRs. And why "Play" and "Delete" Buttons on right side, but "Drive speed" on left side? Looks to be optimized for "Shoot / Chimp / F-word / Delete" :p:D

https://nikonrumors.com/2018/08/13/...-58mm-f-0-95-lens-to-be-announced-later.aspx/

 
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DPad is one of the things I consider very subpar in Nikon's UI. Big, lockable horizontal axis rear thumbwheel with 4 click positions is king. :)
 

Hector1970

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I hope Nikon bring out a great camera.
The better it is the better the Canon camera will be.
The D850 is a great camera and shows Nikon can still produce great cameras.
As a company I'd say they need a successful mirrorless camera.
 

ahsanford

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good! I just saw that this image might be of a mock-up only, not out of Nikon teaser.
I believe these are mockups -- see the comments below (not this NR story but other recent NR stories) and it's clear NR readers are posting mockups in the comments that in some cases appear to get picked up by the editors and put right into the main story. In fairness, they seem to do this as 'supporting flavor' for a new rumor and generally h/t the person in the comments section who offered it.

So I treat the shots shown in many cases as simply the work of overzealous fans, which is fine by me.

- A