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ISv

"The equipment that matters, is you"
Apr 30, 2017
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WOW!!! A lot of fantastic photos - Bundu, Click, Alan, Islander MV, dpc, Snappy 604, jmeyer and durf - nice to see them - all!!!
My (just personal - just because they are shore birds) favorites are that Hudsonian (Islander MV0) and the Pipping plover (Jmeyer)!!!
Here it's hot and not normally humid. I took just easy trip into some parks (there are huge trees there where one can take a temporary refuge at least from the sunlight). Nothing interesting except the last two photos - I will send the last two in separate post - I need some advise with them!
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ISv

"The equipment that matters, is you"
Apr 30, 2017
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And the last two - kind of special. Like photos they are miserable, but like a species they cold be really nice if I'm right: my first attention was attracted by the ~ short legs (well - in grass!), after that it was the primaries protruding so far from the tip of the tail! Then I started shooting. At home I also figure out that I see 4 (almost 5) primaries protruding behind the tertials! It looks liked American Golden Plover. The problem is that it has never been reported for the islands!!!
So, the bottom line is I need some advise from people that have seen this species (and I know there a lot of them on CR!)!
 

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Nat_WA

EOS 7D mk.II
Aug 15, 2017
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Netherlands
Excellent sets, Jeff - dpc - snappy and Jeremy!
Jeff (@IslanderMV) and Jeremy (@jmeyer) - nice lighting! Some luck + making the best possible use of it :)(y)
@dpc - despite the dark plumage you managed to keep a lot of detail in it; well done (y)
@snappy604 (and @jmeyer) - talking about "capturing the moment"; you succeeded! ;)(y)
Wiebe.
 
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jmeyer

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Dec 11, 2014
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A lot depends on where you are, location wise. It could be an American Golden or Pacific Golden. There is also the euro vagrant as well, that would probably show up along the coasts, before inland. At one point they were subspecies, so telling them apart isn't always possible from a photo, especially in the fall with molting plumages.

Jeremy
 

Nat_WA

EOS 7D mk.II
Aug 15, 2017
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Netherlands
And the last two - kind of special. Like photos they are miserable, but like a species they cold be really nice if I'm right: my first attention was attracted by the ~ short legs (well - in grass!), after that it was the primaries protruding so far from the tip of the tail! Then I started shooting. At home I also figure out that I see 4 (almost 5) primaries protruding behind the tertials! It looks liked American Golden Plover. The problem is that it has never been reported for the islands!!!
So, the bottom line is I need some advise from people that have seen this species (and I know there a lot of them on CR!)!
Hi ISv, without reading your comment I was looking at the pictures first - first idea was that I was looking at Golden Plovers, they are remarkably similar to the European Golden Plover in non-breeding plumage. So - it could very well be that your identification is correct, the American Golden Plover in non-breeding plumage looks a lot like its European sibling and those feather patterns are very distinct / unique...
Very nice shots from the park btw. :)
Wiebe.
 

jmeyer

http://www.jmeyerphotography.net/
Dec 11, 2014
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Wisconsin
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To follow up on my previous post, I asked a few of the top bird IDers in Wisconsin and they say American Golden Plover. Here is the exact quote from one. "It looks American. Good shot of the tail and the long primary projections. At least 4 primary tips visible which makes it American." Congrats on a great find for you, and getting great photos!

Jeremy
 

ISv

"The equipment that matters, is you"
Apr 30, 2017
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To follow up on my previous post, I asked a few of the top bird IDers in Wisconsin and they say American Golden Plover. Here is the exact quote from one. "It looks American. Good shot of the tail and the long primary projections. At least 4 primary tips visible which makes it American." Congrats on a great find for you, and getting great photos!

Jeremy
Thanks Jeremy!
I didn't try to get "good photos", I tried to take photos good for ID. I know the differences between the golden plovers. I have never seen only the American (I have seen the Eurasian back in Europe, the Black-belied and the Pacific - here).
The location is Hawaii, Oahu. We have countless Pacific Golden Plovers and few Black-belied but the American and the Eurasian are still not reported for Hawaii. I sent the pics to one of the best birders here and he on his side send it to Peter Pyle. Now we are anxious waiting for the answer:). So far all seems to agree for AGP!
Thanks again!
ISv
 

ISv

"The equipment that matters, is you"
Apr 30, 2017
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Hi ISv, without reading your comment I was looking at the pictures first - first idea was that I was looking at Golden Plovers, they are remarkably similar to the European Golden Plover in non-breeding plumage. So - it could very well be that your identification is correct, the American Golden Plover in non-breeding plumage looks a lot like its European sibling and those feather patterns are very distinct / unique...
Very nice shots from the park btw. :)
Wiebe.
Thanks Wiebe!
In non breeding the American Golden Plover is more grayish on the back. The bird on my photos is in transition from breeding to non-breeding plumage (and had a few remaining black spots on the breast) and this is making the ID little bit more difficult.
I had time for only 4 shots (there was a girl with a dog approaching from left) and the bird was visibly agitated...
 

lion rock

EOR R
Jan 1, 2013
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Jack,
Dogs give a lot of pleasure. BUT, they tie you down. I have two at home. When we travel, we have to look for sitters, cost almost as much for that as traveling.
The smaller of out two is a killer, loving, cute and smart.
Better get a un-mirror or mirrored camera. ;)
-r