Sony's New a7RII Camera Delivers World's First Back-Illuminated FF Sensor

[hoodlum]

Does anyone know if Sony improved their RAW file handling for this version vs. the A7R?

Apparently not.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2015/06/10/sony-rx10-ii-rx100-iv-and-a7r-ii-announced-were-blogging-live-from-the-pres

Q: what about lossless compression or un-compressed RAW files for the a7r2?
A: I checked with the product planner for the A7R II - the compression scheme is the same as in the past, no option for uncompressed

 

[drjlo]

What is this camera going to do to 5Ds sells?

Personally, I hope the Sony A7r II announcement absolutely KILLS the Canon sales, which is the ONLY way Canon executives will wake up from their collective clouds and actually do something innovative for once.

As I own 5D III with a gazillion Canon lenses as well as Sony A7r, I have some thinking to do.. :'(

 

[Barnett]

However, we have been told that we will see “big strides” in high ISO performance...

So does that mean we can forget about Canon catching up on low ISO performance, ie dynamic range?

 

[AvTvM]

Hehehe! Just love this sony a7R ii announcement.
Take this, mirrorslappers ...
Take this, oh so incredibly "innovative" Canon ...
Left in the dust. Sony and ff mirrorless on full throttle. Just love it. Now a few more good FE lenses at reasonable prices without zeiss badge and i am game. Anyways, 5d iii was definitely my last dslr-mirrorslapper. Goodbye Flipping mirrors!

 

[slclick]

We need Sony sensors, with Canon Glass and AF in a Leica body (drooling over the Q) with Nikon......um....erm......models?

http://img.xcitefun.net/users/2008/04/2541,xcitefun-nikon-coolpix.jpg

 

[Monchoon]

Hehehe! Just love this sony a7R ii announcement.
Take this, mirrorslappers ...
Take this, oh so incredibly "innovative" Canon ...
Left in the dust. Sony and ff mirrorless on full throttle. Just love it. Now a few more good FE lenses at reasonable prices without zeiss badge and i am game. Anyways, 5d iii was definitely my last dslr-mirrorslapper. Goodbye Flipping mirrors!

So does that mean you will stop posting here?

 

[9VIII]

Wow, the future is here. McFly may have had a hoverboard, but BSI full frame sensors is good enough.

I'll be picking one up just as soon as they make a high quality 400mm E mount lens and Sigma starts making E mount Art lenses...
(I'm still betting Fuji is going to have a decent mirrorless BIF setup before Sony does.)

 

[9VIII]

I guess the big news here is just that someone has made a full frame BSI sensor. If Sony can do it, hopefully everyone else will too.

 

[SwnSng]

I love that Sony keeps innovating and keeps Canon somewhat honest. Imagine how much slower Canon would introduce their market lineup if they were the only show in town?

This camera makes it tempting but I am looking for one body and unless this thing gets Rave reviews of being able to handle Team sports without an issue I will admire it from afar while waiting to see what the 5DMKIV has in store.

 

[kenny]

Does anyone know if Sony improved their RAW file handling for this version vs. the A7R?

Apparently not.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2015/06/10/sony-rx10-ii-rx100-iv-and-a7r-ii-announced-were-blogging-live-from-the-pres

Q: what about lossless compression or un-compressed RAW files for the a7r2?
A: I checked with the product planner for the A7R II - the compression scheme is the same as in the past, no option for uncompressed

Another quote from that page: "Mark Weir told me that the A7R II can focus Canon lenses faster than Canon bodies."

If true, whoa.

 

[Sportsgal501]

I guess that Fuji XT1 I was eyeing this fall just got pushed into choice #2.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Take this, mirrorslappers ...

Well, it seems the a7RII has the same lossy not-RAW RAW files as the a7R. I wonder if it will be a shutterslapper like its predecessor.

Take this, oh so incredibly "innovative" Canon ...
Left in the dust. Sony and ff mirrorless on full throttle.

I'd bet the 5Ds leaves the a7RII in the dust for unit sales.

Now a few more good FE lenses at reasonable prices without zeiss badge and i am game.

If only, if only...someday, the grass really will be greener. If only...

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

I'm wondering it it has the plastic lens mount that sparked third party sales of a metal lens mount.

So many people believe specification sheets published by PR companies.

Wait for actual tests and results. Then, if its worth it to have 3 month turn-around for repairs, go for it.

 

[emko]

its about the same resolution as the 5Ds and yet it can do a lot more, higher ISO,higher DR,4K video,60fps 1080p,120fps 720p, 5ds is just a 7Dii sensor but larger Canon is just milking old tech for these idiots who keep buying it.

Wow what a jerk comment. High ISO is not important to everyone and many don't care about video. Calling people idiots for buying a fantastic camera is nothing short of condescending.

idiots because CANON could add all that and more but because we keep buying what ever they sell us they will keep doing this. Only thing that will stop this is competition that drives Canon to step up because people will start to go to Sony or other companies.

It has better DR,ISO,VIDEO etc just because you don't use higher ISO does not mean Canon should just sell you a product like this when other Companies are making the best Camera possible, Canon right now is a joke clearly trying to make every penny of us before they are forced to do something.

 

[emko]

I'm wondering it it has the plastic lens mount that sparked third party sales of a metal lens mount.

So many people believe specification sheets published by PR companies.

Wait for actual tests and results. Then, if its worth it to have 3 month turn-around for repairs, go for it.

hahaha you got to find one thing Canon is good at probably will be worth the " 3 month turn-around for repair" can't see the point of the 5Ds now this thing beats it in every way plus you can use your Canon glass on it.

 

[benperrin]

idiots because CANON could add all that and more but because we keep buying what ever they sell us they will keep doing this. Only thing that will stop this is competition that drives Canon to step up because people will start to go to Sony or other companies.

It has better DR,ISO,VIDEO etc just because you don't use higher ISO does not mean Canon should just sell you a product like this when other Companies are making the best Camera possible, Canon right now is a joke clearly trying to make every penny of us before they are forced to do something.

Once again what a condescending comment. You are assuming that I am buying a camera that Canon is forcing on me yet I've done the comparisons myself and concluded that the 5dsr is the right camera for me. Just because it doesn't fit your needs doesn't mean it isn't a good fit for others. Canon is NOT a joke right now. They are behind in a couple of areas but are more capable than they've ever been. This logic of needing the latest camera to take good images needs to stop. If you can't take a good picture with a Canon product then the problem is with YOU. If you want to jump to Sony well then good luck to you, they are making some fantastic products.

 

[zlatko]

When the "Canon is not innovative" chorus starts up, I sometimes trot out a list of Canon innovations and Canon products that have no competitor. But sometimes I just say: why bother?

 

[drjlo]

Wait for actual tests and results. Then, if its worth it to have 3 month turn-around for repairs, go for it.

THAT is a very valid point, in addition to how Sony Service charges exorbitantly higher prices than CaNikon for similar repairs.

What's stopping me, practically-speaking, is how Sony still does not make any wireless triggers for even their own speedlites, much less any RT products, and how they still do not have pro-grade flagship speedlites that dont' overheat (HVL-F60M). Sony, are you listening?

 

[benperrin]

When the "Canon is not innovative" chorus starts up, I sometimes trot out a list of Canon innovations and Canon products that have no competitor. But sometimes I just say: why bother?

It is the mature response to the problem.

 

[CarlMillerPhoto]

Take this, mirrorslappers ...

Well, it seems the a7RII has the same lossy not-RAW RAW files as the a7R. I wonder if it will be a shutterslapper like its predecessor.

Take this, oh so incredibly "innovative" Canon ...
Left in the dust. Sony and ff mirrorless on full throttle.

I'd bet the 5Ds leaves the a7RII in the dust for unit sales.

Now a few more good FE lenses at reasonable prices without zeiss badge and i am game.

If only, if only...someday, the grass really will be greener. If only...

I was waiting for when this guy would show up, with his unwavering CANON IS THE BEST fanboy bla bla bla as usual. "Ya, well...unit sales!!!" is all this guys has these days.