The Canon EOS M50 Will Shoot 4K [CR3]

[Canon Rumors Guy]

<p>We <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/will-the-next-mirrorless-camera-from-canon-have-4k-video-cr1/">reported last month</a> that the next mirrorless from Canon would shoot 4K video and it looks like we’ve confirmed that it will.</p>
<p>This would make the EOS M50 the first APS-C shooter in the Canon lineup to shoot 4K and adds a bit of <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/canon-sends-invites-to-dealers-for-major-mirrorless-presentation-next-month/">credence to that special</a> invite from one of Canon’s subsidiaries we were told about last month</p>
<p>The EOS M50 will remain an EF-M mount camera. Unfortunately, we have no other specifications at this time.</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
<span id="pty_trigger"></span>

 

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Have to say that Canon is doing a good job in the APS mirrorless sector and the M50 should be a good camera addition to Canon's excellent Aps ML series.

For a newbie a good system would be a EF-M camera like M100, along with a EF adapter and owning / mounting some of the excellent Canon F4 Glass like 17-40 L / 16-35 F4 L IS, 24-70 F4 L IS and 70-200 F4 L IS. Then update the system at later date to more mirrorless optimized glass, faster glass and possibly a Canon EF FF Mount mirrorless camera (if Canon is taking this approach ?).

Be interested to see whether Canon's FF plans (New Mount / EF Mount or EF-M Mount ??) and how Canon's plans stack against Nikon's late plans for Nikon-2 (Aps and FF)..

Nikon certainly have their ^%^%^% to make a new entry and dent into the competitive ML market.

 

[ichiru]

Tell us more!!! seriously though when is the event expected? Can't wait... I highly doubt it'll be full frame or will have cool stuff like on sensor stabilizer ... don't care much for 4K personally but damn I want a mirrorless so bad yet I can't turn away from Canon.

 

[Deleted member 380306]

Interesting, wonder if on the stills side we'll see any improvement in image quality?

 

[Punio]

Fair enough, but it'll probably be handicapped. a 1.7 crop or something that will render it useless. I'm waiting to see if they'll produce a FF mirrorless camera. And more importantly if it'll adopt the EF mount.

 

[rrcphoto]

We <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/will-the-next-mirrorless-camera-from-canon-have-4k-video-cr1/">reported last month</a> that the next mirrorless from Canon would shoot 4K video and it looks like we’ve confirmed that it will.</p>
<p>This would make the EOS M50 the first APS-C shooter in the Canon lineup to shoot 4K and adds a bit of <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/canon-sends-invites-to-dealers-for-major-mirrorless-presentation-next-month/">credence to that special</a> invite from one of Canon’s subsidiaries we were told about last month</p>
<p>The EOS M50 will remain an EF-M mount camera. Unfortunately, we have no other specifications at this time.</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
<span id="pty_trigger"></span>

wow. now there's alot of questions. why did they hide the sensor from view? it sounds to me like it's a super-35 and most likely 9mp such as their cini cameras.

otherwise, why hide the sensor?

 

[transpo1]

We <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/will-the-next-mirrorless-camera-from-canon-have-4k-video-cr1/">reported last month</a> that the next mirrorless from Canon would shoot 4K video and it looks like we’ve confirmed that it will.</p>
<p>This would make the EOS M50 the first APS-C shooter in the Canon lineup to shoot 4K and adds a bit of <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/canon-sends-invites-to-dealers-for-major-mirrorless-presentation-next-month/">credence to that special</a> invite from one of Canon’s subsidiaries we were told about last month</p>
<p>The EOS M50 will remain an EF-M mount camera. Unfortunately, we have no other specifications at this time.</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
<span id="pty_trigger"></span>

wow. now there's alot of questions. why did they hide the sensor from view? it sounds to me like it's a super-35 and most likely 9mp such as their cini cameras.

otherwise, why hide the sensor?

If true, this is a good step forward for Canon and signal that they’re recognizing the appeal of 4K in stills cameras- it’s here to stay, and they need to risk cannibalizing some of their higher-end lineup. Of course, it will be hobbled somehow, but credit where credit is due.

To address the sensor question, perhaps it’s a multi aspect like the GH5s sensor.

 

[mkabi]

Meanwhile... over at Fuji the X-H1 is being put out with more aggressive Cinema features. DCI 4K and DCI 2K, F-log, Fuji colours, 1080p at 120fps for $1899.

 

[Dima 135]

So, Canon want tell to us... That first who get 4k (i think with normal bitrate and on all frame) - its new users of cheap cameras ?

 

[rrcphoto]

We <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/will-the-next-mirrorless-camera-from-canon-have-4k-video-cr1/">reported last month</a> that the next mirrorless from Canon would shoot 4K video and it looks like we’ve confirmed that it will.</p>
<p>This would make the EOS M50 the first APS-C shooter in the Canon lineup to shoot 4K and adds a bit of <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/canon-sends-invites-to-dealers-for-major-mirrorless-presentation-next-month/">credence to that special</a> invite from one of Canon’s subsidiaries we were told about last month</p>
<p>The EOS M50 will remain an EF-M mount camera. Unfortunately, we have no other specifications at this time.</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
<span id="pty_trigger"></span>

wow. now there's alot of questions. why did they hide the sensor from view? it sounds to me like it's a super-35 and most likely 9mp such as their cini cameras.

otherwise, why hide the sensor?

If true, this is a good step forward for Canon and signal that they’re recognizing the appeal of 4K in stills cameras- it’s here to stay, and they need to risk cannibalizing some of their higher-end lineup. Of course, it will be hobbled somehow, but credit where credit is due.

To address the sensor question, perhaps it’s a multi aspect like the GH5s sensor.

maybe you misread that entire comment.

if it's a 9mp super-35 the only thing it would be is really a video orientated EF-M it wouldn't be much use for stills.

and ps.. can you make any comment in here without taking a shot at canon?

 

[rrcphoto]

Meanwhile... over at Fuji the X-H1 is being put out with more aggressive Cinema features. DCI 4K and DCI 2K, F-log, Fuji colours, 1080p at 120fps for $1899.

and meanwhile this will be half the price .. :

 

[Talys]

Great. Hopefully, some people will shut up now. ;D

 

[Etienne]

I have an M3 and an M6. These are sluggish finicky cameras. Good for still life, portraits, landscape. But I've cursed at them hundreds of times for their fiddly, slow nature.
Doubt that I'll buy any more of these until Canon picks up the pace.

 

[transpo1]

We <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/will-the-next-mirrorless-camera-from-canon-have-4k-video-cr1/">reported last month</a> that the next mirrorless from Canon would shoot 4K video and it looks like we’ve confirmed that it will.</p>
<p>This would make the EOS M50 the first APS-C shooter in the Canon lineup to shoot 4K and adds a bit of <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/canon-sends-invites-to-dealers-for-major-mirrorless-presentation-next-month/">credence to that special</a> invite from one of Canon’s subsidiaries we were told about last month</p>
<p>The EOS M50 will remain an EF-M mount camera. Unfortunately, we have no other specifications at this time.</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
<span id="pty_trigger"></span>

wow. now there's alot of questions. why did they hide the sensor from view? it sounds to me like it's a super-35 and most likely 9mp such as their cini cameras.

otherwise, why hide the sensor?

If true, this is a good step forward for Canon and signal that they’re recognizing the appeal of 4K in stills cameras- it’s here to stay, and they need to risk cannibalizing some of their higher-end lineup. Of course, it will be hobbled somehow, but credit where credit is due.

To address the sensor question, perhaps it’s a multi aspect like the GH5s sensor.

maybe you misread that entire comment.

if it's a 9mp super-35 the only thing it would be is really a video orientated EF-M it wouldn't be much use for stills.

and ps.. can you make any comment in here without taking a shot at canon?

I was answering your question about why they hid the sensor from view, which seems like the most logical answer.

If it is because it is video oriented, that would be a great thing, but honestly, I’d rather have the video and stills capability, which is what I’ve always been pushing for.

P.S.

A) I gave them credit (if true)

B) Owning a ton of Canon gear gives me the right to constructively criticize.

C) The real question is why get so offended?

 

[transpo1]

Meanwhile... over at Fuji the X-H1 is being put out with more aggressive Cinema features. DCI 4K and DCI 2K, F-log, Fuji colours, 1080p at 120fps for $1899.

and meanwhile this will be half the price .. :

The XH-1 looks like a good play for hybrid customers with 4K and IBIS, although it would have been more appealing with 4K 60p and a dedicated video record button (!). The biggest drawback for me with the Fuji lineup is that there is no 24-105/4 equivalent.

However, if an M50 had useable 4K codec and no crop with DPAF, this would be a killer camera to go up against both the Fuji and A6500.

 

[Talys]

@transpo1 - the M50 will not "risk cannibalizing some of their higher-end lineup."

I do not believe that anyone who uses a five figure video rig -- where three batteries costs more than the M50 will -- is going to consider the a 4k MILC because it's small and cheap.

 

[rrcphoto]

@transpo1 - the M50 will not "risk cannibalizing some of their higher-end lineup."

I do not believe that anyone who uses a five figure video rig -- where three batteries costs more than the M50 will -- is going to consider the a 4k MILC because it's small and cheap.

indeed. the cannibalization myth is overused.

 

[mistaspeedy]

4K means it will be $1000 overpriced, yet crippled in other ways at the same time

I would really like to see Canon offer something that is half decent for not too much money.

 

[crashpc]

It will be overpriced and crippled, thus selling poorly, and Canon will conclude from that one, that 4K is overrated and customers don't want it. :-D
That's how it works at Canon really.
I don't shoot video, so it's not an issue for me, but I can imagine how they lost the development workforce for this, instead of for something more exciting.
Long live Canon!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sJBq0z2Vmu4

 

[transpo1]

@transpo1 - the M50 will not "risk cannibalizing some of their higher-end lineup."

I do not believe that anyone who uses a five figure video rig -- where three batteries costs more than the M50 will -- is going to consider the a 4k MILC because it's small and cheap.

indeed. the cannibalization myth is overused.

@Talys. I completely agree. It won’t cannibalize very useable video rigs for professionals that costs 10x as much. But Canon has not held that opinion. Which is why they hobble certain features in lower end bodies, both stills and video. Note that I said “risk cannibalizing” because I don’t think it actually will. But Canon has typically had a conservative mindset on this.

@RRC Please elaborate and explain why it’s a myth. It’s not a myth but a necessity that a company cannibalize it’s own products before someone else does. Why else put 4K into an M50?

Also, please note the above- I don’t believe it will cannibalize. Nor would a 5DIV with better crop factor 4K necessarily cannibalize a Cinema EOS; nor would a 7DIII with 4K 60p cannibalize a 1DXII...okay, well that might