The Next Lens from Canon Will be an EF-S Prime

[bdbender4]

I gave up on EF-S. How about EF-M? 14mm f/2.8? Or 90mm f/2? Fuji did it...

 

[countofmc95]

A lot of predictions here are usually from the standpoint of enthusiasts and pros, what we'd like. But I think the reality is the vast majority of APS-C Canon users are hobbyists, amateurs, etc that will only buy 1-2 lenses. So I think this next lens will be pretty "boring". I'm thinking EF-S 35mm f/1.8 to directly compete with Nikon's DX 35mm f/1.8, with a similar price of about $200.

 

[Azathoth]

Something between the 8-16 mm range please. Btw it only makes sense doing a EF-S prime on the wider end because on the tele end you already have all the EF lenses.

 

[DaveN]

Something between the 8-16 mm range please. Btw it only makes sense doing a EF-S prime on the wider end because on the tele end you already have all the EF lenses.

Exactly - the 50 STM is a nice small and inexpensive replacement for the 85/1.8 USM on APS-C(80mm equiv.). $125 instead of $369. Then the 85 USM is a 135/1.8 equiv for only $369, compared to the 135 L for $999. The 15-85 EF-S zoom is $799, weighs over 20 ounces, and starts at f/3.5. Give us a 10 ounce, 15/2.5 EF-S STM for $300 and they will FLY of the shelves!

 

[SpartanII]

There's very little point in them doing anything else as it'll either be too specialist or too much of an overlap with other lenses.

Seems like overlap is the name of the game considering there are:

EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM
EF 24mm f/2.8 IS USM
EF 28mm f/2.8 IS USM
EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5 - 5.6 that seems to get a refresh every other year
EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5 -5.6
EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5 - 4.5

I'll stop here as there are many more wide angle offerings. For the love of sweet baby jesus could Canon please give some attention to the 50mm-100mm focal length range that is priced sub $500 range. Preferably a prime with a max aperture of f/2-4. Just thinking that it would fit rather nicely with their current EF-S 24mm and EF 40mm offerings however in a longer focal length. There are some aps-c shooters that shoot portraiture. Jusssst sayin.

(My rant was not directed towards you jolyonralph) Just frustrated with the aps-c offerings.

 

[Deleted member 378875]

Its such a shame that in order to get excellent wide angle shots you have to buy a full frame camera.

There doesn't seem to be anything in the Canon range for APS-C cameras to compete with the EF-14mm or EF 16-35mm in the full frame world.

IF Canon were to bring out a fantastic high-quality "L" equivalent prime lens somewhere in the range of 8-12mm then this would be absolutely wonderful. The EF-S 17-55mm is a fantastic mid-range zoom and there is no shortage of high quality telephoto lenses ... so I really hope this extends the Canon APS-C world into very high quality wide angle.

 

[ahsanford]

Wonder if this is a reflection of increasing interest in the 7D MII from higher level photographers who are the ones most likely to buy a bag full of lenses. If so, there could be more such announcements coming.

Doubt it. Higher level / 'Pro' APS-C users with a 7D2 probably also own an FF rig and have EF glass to call upon for gaps in the EF-S arsenal. Consider: every time you've seen a red-ringed lens on a Canon body with a pop-up flash, you're looking at a crop user. For instance, it's not uncommon at all to see a 7D2 user with a 16-35 L lens as their walkaround.

So I don't think this new crop lens would be aimed at a specific crop body so much as a type of user that spans many parts of the crop camera portfolio. Ideas:

• The Instagram travel/lifestyle folks would love a compact macro for food photography, perhaps an illuminated lens like the one just released for EF-M (28mm f/3.5 IS STM). I've also wondered if that illuminating element (if modified/tweaked/boosted) could serve as illumination for vlogging.
  
  
• The budding enthusiast crowd would love a simple / cheap / large aperture tool like the 50 f/1.8 STM but for crop, say an EF-S 35mm f/1.8 STM
  
  
• The keep it small crowd might want to collect a small set of pancakes. As the 24mm and 40mm pancakes are already out there, a wider pancake might make sense, perhaps a EF-S 15mm f/2.8 STM

These are just guesses, of course. They may just be updating one of the two existing crop primes, in which case it would surely be the EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro USM.

- A

 

[ahsanford]

Its such a shame that in order to get excellent wide angle shots you have to buy a full frame camera.

There doesn't seem to be anything in the Canon range for APS-C cameras to compete with the EF-14mm or EF 16-35mm in the full frame world.

Disagree somewhat -- Canon just won't give you a fast one for astro/events/sports. But the EF-S 10-18mm lens is no joke for landscapes. That lens is sharp.

I think Canon could make stellar EF-S ultrawide primes, but why would they do that when they want people to go FF and get on the much more expensive EF spending highway?

- A

 

[slclick]

I gave up on EF-S. How about EF-M? 14mm f/2.8? Or 90mm f/2? Fuji did it...

Canon hasn't given up on it. But you could call them and give your 2 cents.

 

[SpartanII]

I gave up on EF-S. How about EF-M? 14mm f/2.8? Or 90mm f/2? Fuji did it...

Canon hasn't given up on it. But you could call them and give your 2 cents.

I gave them my 2 cents that they should introduce more fast primes for their EF-M mount on Facebook. They deleted the suggestion. Sigh. He'll probably get a dial tone if he called in.

 

[ahsanford]

I gave up on EF-S. How about EF-M? 14mm f/2.8? Or 90mm f/2? Fuji did it...

Canon hasn't given up on it. But you could call them and give your 2 cents.

Canon hasn't given up on EF-S, but they surely aren't setting the world alight with new offerings.

Since the year EOS-M was first announced (2012):

New EF lenses: 17
New EF-M lenses: 7
New EF-S lenses: 6

(taken from http://www.eflens.com/lens_articles/canon_lens_date_codes.html#history_of_EF_lenses)

- A

 

[slclick]

I gave up on EF-S. How about EF-M? 14mm f/2.8? Or 90mm f/2? Fuji did it...

Canon hasn't given up on it. But you could call them and give your 2 cents.

Canon hasn't given up on EF-S, but they surely aren't setting the world alight with new offerings.

Since the year EOS-M was first announced (2012):

New EF lenses: 17
New EF-M lenses: 7
New EF-S lenses: 6

(taken from http://www.eflens.com/lens_articles/canon_lens_date_codes.html#history_of_EF_lenses)

- A

Perhaps more EF-S shooters get what they need and stay there or drop out of the race. You know, the kit and the 55-200

 

[SpartanII]

I gave up on EF-S. How about EF-M? 14mm f/2.8? Or 90mm f/2? Fuji did it...

Canon hasn't given up on it. But you could call them and give your 2 cents.

Canon hasn't given up on EF-S, but they surely aren't setting the world alight with new offerings.

Since the year EOS-M was first announced (2012):

New EF lenses: 17
New EF-M lenses: 7
New EF-S lenses: 6

(taken from http://www.eflens.com/lens_articles/canon_lens_date_codes.html#history_of_EF_lenses)

- A

Perhaps more EF-S shooters get what they need and stay there or drop out of the race. You know, the kit and the 55-200

Or just buy EF (L) lenses which is probably what Canon desires.

 

[PeterT]

Seems like overlap is the name of the game considering there are:

EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM
EF 24mm f/2.8 IS USM
EF 28mm f/2.8 IS USM
EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5 - 5.6 that seems to get a refresh every other year
EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5 -5.6
EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5 - 4.5

I'll stop here as there are many more wide angle offerings. For the love of sweet baby jesus could Canon please give some attention to the 50mm-100mm focal length range that is priced sub $500 range.

I disagree.
1. We are talking about primes, the last three are zooms, so they cannot "overlap" for this discussion.
2. I (and probable many others) need primes for low light situations when f/2.8 is just not enough. In the 35 to 135 equivalent range I would never consider buying a prime being darker than f/2 (and for 24 to 35 darker than f/2.4).
3. I do not consider manual focus lenses. I used to manually focus on film SLR, but the viewfinders of crop sensor SLRS are for me totally inadequate for manual focusing (but I admit that I never looked at a 7D).

So I see *none* suitable primes in the <= 35mm equivalent range (except the old Sigma 20mm f/1.8, which has, according to photozone.de, horrible IQ wide open and it is a big and heavy FF lens, and the new huge and expensive FF Sigma 20mm 1.4).

While there are plenty of primes in 50-100mm (even if I am not sure if you mean physical range or equivalent range): several 35mm 1.4, 35mm f/2 IS, many 50 or 55 1.2 or 1.4 or 1.8, 85 1.2, 85 1.8, 100 2.0... And several of them are in the sub $500 range (at least when buying them used).
The only problem that I can see in the physical range 50-100 is lack of IS (because Canon does not want to add IBIS). There is only one IS lens, the 85mm 1.8 from Tamron, but it has reportedly bad problems with focus shift...
So I would love to see an EF-S 56mm f/1.8 IS or EF-S 85mm f/2 IS. But I understand that this is very unlikely to happen.

(no rant, just facts and (different) opinions)

 

[ecka]

Actually, what we really need is a new EF 20mm (pancake or not). But, for APS-C, I'd expect some kind of an F1.2 portrait lens, to compete with all the overpriced F1.2 placebos from other players.

 

[anden]

EF-S 10mm f/1.4
EF-S 15mm f/1.2
EF-S 22mm f/1.2
EF-S 35mm f/1.2
EF-S 50mm f/1.2
EF-S 80mm f/1.2

I think Canon could make stellar EF-S ultrawide primes, but why would they do that when they want people to go FF and get on the much more expensive EF spending highway?

Because budget limited enthusiasts wanting an really good camera and a range of really good lenses, may see that the price for an FF system is too high for them, while a crop system still gives really good photos except where you need speed.

Maybe today's competition is so strong, that Canon don't have much time and resources left after being busy defending their high-margin (FF) body and lens segment, high-volume (compact) segment, and crop body segment. So they may have had to leave the quality crop lens market, even if not happily.

How long before Sigma announces an Art DC ~10-20mm f/1.8 zoom?

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

EF-S 10mm f/1.4
EF-S 15mm f/1.2
EF-S 22mm f/1.2
EF-S 35mm f/1.2
EF-S 50mm f/1.2
EF-S 80mm f/1.2

How long before Sigma announces an Art DC ~10-20mm f/1.8 zoom?

I would be very happy with these EF-S F1.4 lenses and also F1.2 ...
But the reality of the optics makes it very difficult (and expensive) to make ultra wide-angle prime F1.4, and F1.8 zoom.

 

[AvTvM]

pancake-ish"

My guess is a very compact, "pancake-ish" EF-S 35/1.8 STM - small, light, sharp, low cost. Very similar to EF-S 24/2.8 STM and EF 40/2.8.

 

[Woody]

Please let it be a fast ~30mm at a reasonable price
Please let it be a fast ~30mm at a reasonable price
Please let it be a fast ~30mm at a reasonable price
Please let it be a fast ~30mm at a reasonable price
...

Yes Yes Yes Yes

 

[Woody]

Nikon has this:

http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/camera-lenses/af-s-dx-nikkor-35mm-f1.8g.html

I am really hoping Canon offers something similar. Nikon and Canon usually have very similar lens line-up.

I think Canon could make stellar EF-S ultrawide primes, but why would they do that when they want people to go FF and get on the much more expensive EF spending highway?
- A