Two Canon Lenses to Be Announced on June 7, 2018

[Canon Rumors Guy]

<p>We’re told that the Canon will announce two new lenses on June 7, 2018 at 12:00AM EST.</p>
<p>We’re expecting to see the long rumored EF 70-200mm f/4L IS II and EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS III to be announced.</p>
<p>Update: image of the EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS III</p>
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<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
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[ahsanford]

It appears that Canon still believes that the world is not ready to have their minds blown by the EF-M 85mm f/2.4 IS STM pancake.

- A

 

[FTb-n]

The Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 IS Mark II is the best lens in its class. A Mark III must offer something phenominal for current Mark II owners to upgrade.

Meanwhile, Canon does not offer a 50mm that is sharp wide open or a 50 mm with IS. I would thinbk that 50 f1.4 with IS would sell quick. So why upgrade the 70-200 f2.8 before the 50 f1.4?

 

[MartinF.]

The Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 IS Mark II is the best lens in its class. A Mark III must offer something phenominal for current Mark II owners to upgrade.

Meanwhile, Canon does not offer a 50mm that is sharp wide open or a 50 mm with IS. I would thinbk that 50 f1.4 with IS would sell quick. So why upgrade the 70-200 f2.8 before the 50 f1.4?

My guess is the new lenses will have a new communication protocol between lens and (new) EF mount camera (mentioned in another post).

 

[dkangel]

The Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 IS Mark II is the best lens in its class. A Mark III must offer something phenominal for current Mark II owners to upgrade.

Meanwhile, Canon does not offer a 50mm that is sharp wide open or a 50 mm with IS. I would thinbk that 50 f1.4 with IS would sell quick. So why upgrade the 70-200 f2.8 before the 50 f1.4?

I am totally with you. I hope the Mark III rumor is wrong and a 50 1.4 shows up to accompany the 35 and 85.

 

[stevelee]

I haven't had occasion to put my 50mm f/1.4 on my FF camera, so I can't comment on its performance in that situation. I bought to it be an 80mm equivalent on my Rebel, for portraits and such. Wide open any softness in the corners was a feature, not a bug, or at least irrelevant, since the corners had distant things that were way out of focus anyway.

 

[unfocused]

The Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 IS Mark II is the best lens in its class. A Mark III must offer something phenominal for current Mark II owners to upgrade.

Meanwhile, Canon does not offer a 50mm that is sharp wide open or a 50 mm with IS. I would thinbk that 50 f1.4 with IS would sell quick. So why upgrade the 70-200 f2.8 before the 50 f1.4?

This has already been thoroughly discussed.

Canon does not need to sell a single Mark III to an existing Mark II owner in order for this lens to be a success. This is one of Canon's best selling (possibly is Canon's best selling) "L" lens. Between new buyers and professionals needing to replace older, well-used Mark IIs, there is more than sufficient market for this lens to be a success.

While you might think an upgraded 50 f1.4 with IS would sell quickly, only Canon has the data to prove or disprove that.

 

[traveller]

The Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 IS Mark II is was the best lens in its class. A Mark III must offer something phenominal [sic]for current Mark II owners to upgrade.

The Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8e is superior, especially at 135mm. Of course this doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with the EF 70-200f/2.8L IS II, but it is a flagship pro lens and Canon really care about bragging rights.
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2016/11/nikon-70-200mm-f2-8e-fl-ed-af-s-vr-mtf-tests/

Meanwhile, Canon does not offer a 50mm that is sharp wide open or a 50 mm with IS. I would thinbk [sic]that 50 f1.4 with IS would sell quick. So why upgrade the 70-200 f2.8 before the 50 f1.4?

I’m guessing because they sell far more copies of the 70-200 f/2.8 lenses. The 70-200 f/2.8 L USM replaced the 80-200 f/2.8 L in 1995; the 70-200 f/2.8L IS USM was released in 2001, which was in turn replaced by the version II in 2010. It is therefore not unreasonable to expect a new model to be released in 2018.

 

[ahsanford]

While you might think an upgraded 50 f1.4 with IS would sell quickly, only Canon has the data to prove or disprove that.

I hate to +1 this, but the proof is in the pudding, and the pudding tastes like fast pro zooms getting regularly updated. This is what Canon does.

The 50s will come, but the flagship pro zooms are the staple professional instruments that have to remain top top top drawer.

- A

 

[sanj]

Thank you for the information Canon Rumors. Thumbs up!

 

[drmikeinpdx]

My Prediction

I predict no performance improvements, just some kind of wireless connectivity gimmick for the hipster photographers of tomorrow. Maybe you will be able to control the zoom with your phone or over the internet. Maybe you will be able to post your lens data directly to Instagram and Canon Rumors? These will be the first lenses that can be fully integrated with social media.

Of course you will have to watch several Youtube videos to learn how to program your lens and make it connect to the network. And no doubt it will lose the connection every time it is turned off.

 

[ahsanford]

Re: My Prediction

I predict no performance improvements, just some kind of wireless connectivity gimmick for the hipster photographers of tomorrow. Maybe you will be able to control the zoom with your phone or over the internet. Maybe you will be able to post your lens data directly to Instagram and Canon Rumors? These will be the first lenses that can be fully integrated with social media.

Of course you will have to watch several Youtube videos to learn how to program your lens and make it connect to the network. And no doubt it will lose the connection every time it is turned off.

I predict that your prediction is not going to happen. 8)

- A

 

[DaveGrice]

The Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 IS Mark II is the best lens in its class. A Mark III must offer something phenominal for current Mark II owners to upgrade.

Meanwhile, Canon does not offer a 50mm that is sharp wide open or a 50 mm with IS. I would thinbk that 50 f1.4 with IS would sell quick. So why upgrade the 70-200 f2.8 before the 50 f1.4?

100% with you. Give me a better 50 before an (even better) 70-200. I'm completely satisfied today with the 70-200. The 50.... not so much.

 

[Patlezinc]

I was believing what CR wrote here , finally no new 70-200 this year, and now another contradicting news.
The problem is I just bought the 70-200 f4 IS yesterday... I was ready to take the v2...
Not happy reader here...

 

[Canondude2018]

The Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 IS Mark II is the best lens in its class. A Mark III must offer something phenominal for current Mark II owners to upgrade.

Meanwhile, Canon does not offer a 50mm that is sharp wide open or a 50 mm with IS. I would thinbk that 50 f1.4 with IS would sell quick. So why upgrade the 70-200 f2.8 before the 50 f1.4?

Why would Canon offer IS for it's 50mm 1.4 when it still sells the 1.2? The only one who would get IS would be an upgrade to the current 1.2.

 

[photonius]

The Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 IS Mark II is the best lens in its class. A Mark III must offer something phenominal for current Mark II owners to upgrade.

Meanwhile, Canon does not offer a 50mm that is sharp wide open or a 50 mm with IS. I would thinbk that 50 f1.4 with IS would sell quick. So why upgrade the 70-200 f2.8 before the 50 f1.4?

My guess is the new lenses will have a new communication protocol between lens and (new) EF mount camera (mentioned in another post).

Yes, given the patent for new lens communication protocols (backward compatible), and the upcoming new FF mirrorless bodies, it would make sense to release new versions of the 70-200 lenses, which are essential lenses for any FF system. If the new communication protocol is indeed something like USB, then of course you might be able to control anything with it, depending on the capabilities of the lens, i.e. a motorised zoom, or programmable zoom, focus, and aperture for video sequences, etc.

 

[symmar22]

I was believing what CR wrote here , finally no new 70-200 this year, and now another contradicting news.
The problem is I just bought the 70-200 f4 IS yesterday... I was ready to take the v2...
Not happy reader here...

I don't think you should be worried too much, if you know how to use a camera and lenses, the 70-200 f4 IS should give you full satisfaction. I use it most of the time instead of the f2.8 IS II that I find too cumbersome and it never disappointed me. On my 5DSr it is as sharp if not sharper than the 2.8, and none of my clients ever complained.

It's only negative would be the slightly noisy IS.

I was in the same situation when I finally bought the 45 TS-E a few month before the 50mm TS-E was announced. I was a bit pissed in the first place, and the 50 is much better optically than the 45... But, the 45 cost me 750 Euro used like new when the 50 is more than 3 times that, and finally I prefer the 45mm focal for my use, the terrible chroma can mostly be dealt with in post and its a much smaller lens, once again sharpness is a non issue.

I am not so sure I will replace my 45 and 90 TS-E with the newest models. I am not a fan of Ken Rockwell (sorry if I bring his name here ), but he is right about one thing at least, sharpness is only a concern for amateurs. Every modern lens is sharp enough, the real optical problems are elsewhere (chroma, coma, distortion, field flatness) and ergonomics are more important in real use (filter size, size and weight, MFD). I work with Canon, but my personal photography is made with a 4x5 view camera that uses lenses designed mostly in the 1970's and that never stop to amaze me. I use as well Zeiss , Leica and Olympus lenses adapted on my old 5D2, and image quality is not a problem.

One of the problem with the most recent super sharp lenses is they are quite clinical. It's OK for some uses (architecture, macro, landscape, studio) and a lot of professional applications, but they have zero character. IMO, the imperfection of some lenses make them desirable for a lot of other uses, in the creative sense.

I am thinking about buying the 50mm1.2L not because it's super sharp, but because everything else (bokeh and softness) that give the special look. I am not interested in the least in a Zeiss Otus or Sigma Art, my 50 macro f2.5 does the job perfectly if I want a zero distortion, flat field super sharp picture, it cost me 250€ and weighs 280 gramms.

I am sure you will be fully satisfied with your 70-200mm f4 IS, plus you don't know yet how much the new one will cost. Even if you use a 5DSr on a tripod all the time (which is what I do), I am not sure the slight supposed optical improvement would matter that much. On the ergonomic side, to be honest, we are already close to perfection. If only Canon would have been less greedy and include the tripod collar, the world would be perfect...

 

[Patlezinc]

Thanks Symmar.

Yes, i have seen some full res shots on a 5d3 at 200mm before buying the 70-200 and I have been impressed by the IQ. I have some really good primes and I am probably a bit demanding about IQ. This zoom seems really good and I paid it 720€ with a tripod collar and a filter so it is sure I save about 600€ compared to the v2.
Will receive it Thursday

(The 85 L IS is very recent and it’s IS does noise too)

 

[jeffa4444]

The Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 IS Mark II is the best lens in its class. A Mark III must offer something phenominal for current Mark II owners to upgrade.

Meanwhile, Canon does not offer a 50mm that is sharp wide open or a 50 mm with IS. I would thinbk that 50 f1.4 with IS would sell quick. So why upgrade the 70-200 f2.8 before the 50 f1.4?

The Sony FE 70-200mm f2.8 G Master lens is actually slightly better optically it certainly controls CAs better and as Sony has targeted Canon customers with its G Master lenses I can see why Canon would want to come back at them. Personally I don't like the ergonomics of the Sony A7 series of cameras so I'm not going to move over to Sony but we have noticed more & more rentals of Sony lenses and camera bodies its not really affecting Canon rentals but it is Nikon and I'm sure Canon has much better intel. than I do to pass judgement.

 

[Stuart]

The Canon EF 70-200 f2.8 IS Mark II is the best lens in its class. A Mark III must offer something phenominal for current Mark II owners to upgrade.

Meanwhile, Canon does not offer a 50mm that is sharp wide open or a 50 mm with IS. I would thinbk that 50 f1.4 with IS would sell quick. So why upgrade the 70-200 f2.8 before the 50 f1.4?

My guess is the new lenses will have a new communication protocol between lens and (new) EF mount camera (mentioned in another post).

I'm with you, these lenses are identical to the current versions, except they have the new mirrorless comms function.
Its not being upgraded for optical performance - just for new body acceptance.