Two new EOS M cameras rumoured to be coming in 2020 [CR1]

Canon Rumors Guy

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2020 is shaping up as a big year for new product announcements from Canon, especially on the prosumer and professional fronts. The EOS M lineup will likely see at least one new model as well, as the EOS M50 will likely need a successor.
This rumor is being floated by a site that doesn’t source any sites they take information from, so I’ll return that favour. :)
Rumoured EOS M50 Mark II / EOS M60

32.5mp APS-C CMOS sensor
DIGIC 8
UHD 4K 30p / 24p
Full HD 120p
Rear monitor 3 inches 1.04 million dots Vari-angle touch panel
Announcement date September 2020

Rumoured EOS M camera

24mp APS-C CMOS sensor
3rd generation Dual Pixel CMOS AF technology / Eye AF compatible
Rear monitor 3-inch vari-angle touch panel
Announcement date Before July 2020
Price $849 with kit lens

I don’t put a lot of stock in these rumours, as pricing wouldn’t even be close to decided at this time.
The EOS M5 isn’t going to get a Mark II version according to Canon, and I can’t see Canon adding a new...
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bdbender4

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It seems pretty clear at this point that Canon views EF-M as an entry-level consumer system. If we are going to take it seriously, we don't need more bodies, we need more lenses that aren't consumer zooms. This has been the situation for many years now. Only the 11-22, 22, and 32 are good lenses, IMHO from having used many of the EF-M lenses on my M5 and M6.

The Sigma recycled-Sony-E big heavy old fashioned large-objective designs don't count, either. If we have to have large heavy, how about something like a 15-60 F/4 really good Canon EF-M lens?
 

IcyBergs

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It seems pretty clear at this point that Canon views EF-M as an entry-level consumer system. If we are going to take it seriously, we don't need more bodies, we need more lenses that aren't consumer zooms. This has been the situation for many years now. Only the 11-22, 22, and 32 are good lenses, IMHO from having used many of the EF-M lenses on my M5 and M6.

The Sigma recycled-Sony-E big heavy old fashioned large-objective designs don't count, either. If we have to have large heavy, how about something like a 15-60 F/4 really good Canon EF-M lens?
I agree its an entry level system - a gateway to a future mount for the novices, and to the serious amateur or professional its a smaller kit for leisure time or travel (have it on me all the time camera). In my opinion that is the only logical explanation for why we haven't seen a more broad lens offering than what's already available.

I'm in the market to grab a 2nd hand M50, and must say I'm not really concerned about lens selection. I would only want the 22 f/2, and essentially use it as a compact fixed lens 35mm equivalent camera (albeit with the option to change lenses, should circumstances change - unlike the fuji x100 series etc). That's just me, but I have a feeling Canon is telling a M series owner or prospective owner that if you want more native lens selection then move up to RF.

At the moment it is pretty obvious that Canon is not "serious" about APS-C.
 

Architect1776

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Was that a 'The M6ii is replacing the M5 and M6 for now (until we finish developing the M5ii)' or 'We will definitely never develop an M5ii' ? I love my little M5, and would be interested in an M5ii with built in EVF, but don't want the M6ii with accessory EVF.
Agreed, No built in viewfinder kills the M series for me completely.
Now a built in viewfinder and IBIS you can get my interest back.
For the money cameras cost now I look for features in a brand that I am interested in.
Sony definitely not.
 

Architect1776

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Last time Canon released anything worth mentioning was when... I even forgot when it was. Canon, good job at helping Sony making more money.
Guess you missed the RF system.
An engineering base that puts Sony back to the stone age and with the new RF mount lenses proving it over and over.
Camera wise, yes they will do that as well but they have a habit of getting it right rather than "Upgrade" it every few months leaving the Sony owner with outdated junk almost monthly.
 
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It seems pretty clear at this point that Canon views EF-M as an entry-level consumer system. If we are going to take it seriously, we don't need more bodies, we need more lenses that aren't consumer zooms. This has been the situation for many years now. Only the 11-22, 22, and 32 are good lenses, IMHO from having used many of the EF-M lenses on my M5 and M6.

The Sigma recycled-Sony-E big heavy old fashioned large-objective designs don't count, either. If we have to have large heavy, how about something like a 15-60 F/4 really good Canon EF-M lens?
You clearly haven't handled any of the Sigma primes. The 56 is by no stretch of the imagination big or heavy. It's designed specifically for APS-C mirrorless. It's barely any bigger or heavier than the EF-M 32. Considering it's nearly twice the focal length of that lens, and has the same F1.4 maximum aperture, it's incredibly compact. If you want a smaller high-quality 56mm F1.4 lens that fits on APS-C, you'll have to alter the laws of physics. The 16mm F1.4 is the biggest, but it's also incredibly small and light for a 16mm F1.4 lens. I've been using the Sigma 56 almost exclusively on my M6II for the last couple of weeks. It's small, light, and incredibly sharp.
 
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Drcampbellicu

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So much low end action
I am jealous waiting for the high end mirrorless options. The rf lenses look great but we just need the following popular bodies as an RF

7d mark
5D mark
1D

this is the holy trinity of bodies
The high megapixel RF is not a high volume camera or very important
 

mb66energy

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EOS M50 body only price is very solidly close to the introductory price so mid/end 2020 is a good estimate for the next iteration.
Hopefully the M50 ii (or whatever is the builtin-EVF-M-camera) has full sensor 4k and at least one selector ring like thingy in addition to the existing one ... to set params faster. And linear PCM for sound ...!
 

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I'm skeptical, but on the other hand, if Canon's market research does show that mirrorless bodies are displacing consumer grade DSLRs, then it makes sense for Canon to start filling out the line with bodies at a variety of price points, like the Rebel series. I don't know why people whine about this. It's not like the Rebels ever kept Canon from producing higher end bodies as well. In fact, Canon used the Rebels as gateway drugs to get a certain percentage of consumers addicted to more costly lenses and bodies.
 
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Any chance we'll see an upcoming M with max shutter 8000? I'd like something smaller than the 90D, but I'm afraid I'll have no choice.
 
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I’m not a big fan of the new M6 II surely it should have had a twisty screen like the M50. It’s a shame there will be no M5 II. I like my M5 with its built in EVF but would have liked to see an update with M50 type twisty screen but with M5 resolution and better AF. I will keep my M5 for now, it’s a fun holiday snapper / general purpose camera and lives in my camera bag as a backup. I just don’t see the M6 II as an update or replacement to the M5 maybe the M50II / M60 will be that camera in 2020 if it happens.
 
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bdbender4

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You clearly haven't handled any of the Sigma primes. The 56 is by no stretch of the imagination big or heavy. It's designed specifically for APS-C mirrorless. It's barely any bigger or heavier than the EF-M 32. Considering it's nearly twice the focal length of that lens, and has the same F1.4 maximum aperture, it's incredibly compact. If you want a smaller high-quality 56mm F1.4 lens that fits on APS-C, you'll have to alter the laws of physics. The 16mm F1.4 is the biggest, but it's also incredibly small and light for a 16mm F1.4 lens. I've been using the Sigma 56 almost exclusively on my M6II for the last couple of weeks. It's small, light, and incredibly sharp.
Well, I'm glad that the Sigma lens is working for you, as is the M6 II. And I confess to having not handled the Sigmas.

What I don't see is how the advent of 3 Sigma primes signals anything about how Canon is taking EF-M lens development any more seriously. The element profiles of the Sigma lenses is just recycled DSLR typical: large objective lens with a train of smaller elements behind. The 32mm Canon is a true new mirrorless design, relatively small concave objective lens with a train of large elements behind. You can find this new design profile in the Nikon S 50mm as well.