UK pricing and ship date for the Canon EOS RP [CR1]
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Oh, you mean the DSLRs on display at Target ans Sams. Yeah, that was me with the D3000 back in 2012ish. Cell phones got really good at pictures around the same time I got that kit "to take great photos of my kids." I sold the kit after trying to resuscitate it in 2016 for astrophotography. Then jumped into FF in 2017 with my current 6D. Anyway, I think you are jumping ahead, the RP isn't the camera you are going to find at Sams on display. That will be the M series from Canon and whatever Nikon comes out with to compete there. Most of the customers that would have bought a dust collector are the ones who like me, decide that cell phones are sufficient for family memory preservation (but now they already know it and don't have to be bothered with buying the low end kit). Those who want to actually learn photography will get their feet wet with the M series and decide to abandon it or upgrade as they progress (or stay faithful b/c they do the research and figure out it is the right system for their needs). I see the RP, in the current market, more in place for the 77D, 80D folks once they realize an upgrade is never coming for them, or 6D folks who decide not to step up to the R. Generally speaking, these are not the people who abandon photography shortly after the box is opened.
Sure that can be said about a Rebel, but I was just making point, aiming at a particular end of a spectrum of users. Back in 2008, the 5D Mark ii was used as a "throw away camera" - it's just an expression. It's relatively to having a $100K Red camera (decked out) as the main camera and bunch of 5D mark ii for special shots.
Thanks for your comments.
I also have an M50 and don't particularly like the EVF. I don't think its the resolution, its the refresh rate and lag it has that bothers me.
Yes the majority of owners it will be their main and best cameras but I think alot of Canon 5D and 1DX owners would eye it up as a backup camera. Its full frame and small to carry (+the adapter).
Although I'd prefer a better camera to compete with and improve on the 5DIV, Canon are pitching this camera well in terms of price for that performance.
It might be slated in reviews when its compared to other full frame mirrorless cameras but its bang for the buck for an existing Canon users heavily invested in glass. It will sell well. It's a good camera to get into full frame with.
I must try to convince myself to wait for the next camera which will be much much better (I hope).
I think its the sort of camera if I bought it I'd kick myself for not waiting a little bit longer for something so much better.
Lets see.
I don't actually have an M50 but a Sony A77ii though. So there may or may not be a difference between them. Also, I may or may not change my opinion on the A77ii EVF once I've tried something better.
That’s how I’d view it, plus the added functionality of the filter adapters for use with the TS-E 17 and 11-24L lenses.
As you said: Under normal circumstances the EVF is very fine. I have no comparison except OVFs and I am really happy with the viewfinder. In low light situations I see a great enhancement because sensor + EVF work as light intensifiers which helps to frame / compose and focus in low light (near darkness). While an OVF approximately represents the same DR the eye has (roughly 20 stops) the EVF might have 10 bit / stops DR so there is some compression.
Otherwise a less optimal EVF or OVF helps to chase crisper scenery IMO - most important to me is that it is a 100% viewfinder and that I can move the AF point WHERE I WANT without constraint - I really do NOT like the center oriented AF points of nearly all DSLRs (in APS-C land it is a lot better compared to FF land) + I have a level built-in which is just some lines of programming and no longer the addition of an LCD layer in the viewfinder which is expensive, minimizes contrast and killed mostly the lit AF confirmation symbols.
And that from a guy who really likes old stuff which is as analog as possible but who finally doesn't deny digital if it is better or more practical!
I think that camera is the M50 on steroids and I will like to use my M50 with 32mm lens + RP with some tele lens together for a lot of situations.
Hopefully they have an offer without standard EF-R adapter (to buy the control ring adapter I am lusting for since ~2010 where I hoped someone will do that "natural" stuff) or directly with the control ring adapter.
I see the RP - for ME - as a new EF body for FF use and a "replacement" for my FD bayonet bodies ... just the auto bellows + 2.8 35mm macro photo lens will work properly with the RP
Hopefully they have an offer without standard EF-R adapter (to buy the control ring adapter I am lusting for since ~2010 where I hoped someone will do that "natural" stuff) or directly with the control ring adapter.
I see the RP - for ME - as a new EF body for FF use and a "replacement" for my FD bayonet bodies ... just the auto bellows + 2.8 35mm macro photo lens will work properly with the RP
Please lead me to the firmware that allows the A7II to do uncompressed RAW, that’s the only thing keeping me from buying one.
Not 1000 pounds worth of difference, not even 500 pounds worth of difference. RP is a much better value proposition. It's like luxury cars, add $10K worth of extras and charge $50K for the privilege
Well let's see what the actual specs of the RP are. It's likely to have a lower level EVF and also screen, which is going to make a real practical difference, quite apart from the lower level sensor and (likely) video functions. Bare in mind the EOS R will (probably already is) enter into ongoing 'discounting', so its street price will fall to a level lower than what you are quoting.
Looks like it will indeed have 4k. That alone on the lower resolution sensor should mean it'll probably be better for run and gun video(less crop, slight improvement in rolling shutter) than the R.
Thank you! I don't know why I was under the impression that it didn't do uncompressed RAW. This totally changes things for me!
