It couldn't match the amazing low light performance of the 6DI, so the recommendation was to not upgrade if you already had a 6DI... if you would call that a complaint.I don't recall seeing criticism of its low-light performance. All the complaints I've seen were about dynamic range at ISO 100.
Sony significantly increased their battery life, increased their weather proofing, has extended their lens line, and has industry leading sensor performance. Looked like they were dropping the price to $1799, so, if Canon's coming in at $1599, theyre a solid 2 steps behind. At $1299, their choices would make a lot more sense.At the price points being discussed, what else would we really expect from Canon?
LP-E17? This is a M/Rebel battery. This will be a relatively inexpensive basic camera body. I am expecting a lot of plastic and the 6DII sensor. But at a low price point.
How many screen names do you have? My reply was not to one of your posts under this name.I’m not misrepresenting anything. If you want to make that argument, I’ll make the claim, you’re not seeing the relevant scenario. Two years is plenty of time to either improve the current sensor, design a new sensor, or even purchase a 3rd party sensor. Canon says it’s mirrorless sales are only going to cannibalize their own DSLR sales. You know why? Because no one in their right mind starting from scratch would buy the RP if it has the 6DII sensor. Same reason why no one in the same boat would take 6DII over the A7R. You want new customers? Make a product worth investing in. It’s not the pre-digital age anymore where you can limp in with a lame body. It’s not just about lenses anymore. The market isn’t growing so every company has to fight over the same pie to get a bigger slice. If the company wants to garner new customers, they need a new product. Rehashing two year old sensors isn’t the way. So yes, two years is old.
First off, I agree with the lenses. Canon seems to be releasing an entry and mid-level bodies and then mid to high end lenses. We are seeing a non-L RF 24-240, and the RF 35 macro often gets overlooked. But I expect Canon to remedy that sometime this year or early next year.Sony significantly increased their battery life, increased their weather proofing, has extended their lens line, and has industry leading sensor performance. Looked like they were dropping the price to $1799, so, if Canon's coming in at $1599, theyre a solid 2 steps behind. At $1299, their choices would make a lot more sense.
They'll also have to release a lot more lenses in the <$1000 for it to make sense too.
I’m lost. I’ve only got this one SN. I will admit that I erroneously responded to your comment, so I apologize for that. I do think Canon is making the wrong choice in putting the 6D2 sensor in the RP, if that’s the case. Of course none of us have a crystal ball but who’s going to shell out $1500 for a re-release? The RP only offers a new mount over the 6DII. Any buyer who does any level of research is going to notice the stagnation that many of us Canon users are moaning about. If you were in that position, would you buy a RP? Want more market share? Then you have to entice new customers. No crystal ball needed.How many screen names do you have? My reply was not to one of your posts under this name.
it was pekr who claimed the sensor of the 6D II is "8 years old." Then he stepped back to "7 years."
I pointed out that the sensor is TWO years old. I'd say this is a "fact," not an argument. Somebody claiming the sensor is 5 years older than that is misrepresenting the age. Wrong. In error. Making false claims.
I don't believe in crystal balls, especially the one you are using to predict what people in their right minds will buy or not buy.
For sure. But I can also get the Sigma line, the Tamron 28-75, and a number of other 3rd party options right now. As someone who had an a7R and basically only adapted lenses, it was annoying. Canon's got a better setup for that with EF->RF, but, nobody's gonna move to Canon and buy EF lenses right now. And how long will it take for Sigma to make RF lenses (especially when they're already invested in FE and L-Mount)? It took a good 3 years for Sony to even come close to something resembling a serviceable lens line.Staying on the lenses for a second, but comparing Canon to Sony, people often get all excited about $100-$200 price difference between bodies and casually ignore the fact that Sony's lenses are often $500-$700 more expensive per lens, just look at the holy trinity comparing GM to L.
Where the camera world is now, overall, I'll agree. Where its going in 5 years...I'm less sure Canon's going the right way. They let themselves fall behind when Sony started the A7, and aside from pushing the RF lens line, its not feeling like they're in a hurry to catch up.As far as I am concerned, Sony, while offering good cameras, has not yet caught up to Canon.
This is a classic problem for all incumbents, not just Canon. When a new technology comes along, the incumbent has a tough choice to make; sacrifice it's current line to compete against the newcomer with new technology products? It's a well known business problem that's got it's own name - disruptive technology.Where the camera world is now, overall, I'll agree. Where its going in 5 years...I'm less sure Canon's going the right way. They let themselves fall behind when Sony started the A7, and aside from pushing the RF lens line, its not feeling like they're in a hurry to catch up.
If you care about the reviews, yes they will be terrible. If you care about the photos, they will look great, just as the 6D photos looked great - and based on the comments from actual 6D II users - they will look even better than the 6D.I just hope its a new sensor and not 6D mk2 sensor or else the reviews are going to be terrible to say the least.
Well said. I have to agree and wonder how many neg commenters have actually ever used a 6DII. It's like Tony Northrup said not too long ago. The naysayers bash the specs but the camera just works in real life use.You should try actually using a 6DII. No way I’d change mine for any of the cameras you mentioned, especially for low light photography.