What’s next for the Canon EOS R system and the rest of the lineup?

PureClassA

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I've done a month-long vacation with the 24-105/4IS (EF, MkI) and the 135/2 and ended up literally never using the 135mm. I think 105 is a good tele end for travel.
Ehhh.... but the 135L f2 is a totally different lens. You can't make the same images with the 24-105f4. You're right about ease and simplicity of having an all-around zoom for travel, but that can't replace something like that particular prime for portrait work or even artistic shots that beg for super shallow DOF with unmatched bokeh. Really depends if you were just shooting general stuff or even landscape things, then yes I'd take my 24-105 too
 
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Trey T

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Why would they do that? the smaller mount of the M was part of what kept the camera and lenses small. And I think they should be able to make an RF->EFM adapter, there's 2mm shorter film-to-flange distance on the EFM. So you wouldn't be making an APC-C RF-mount camera just so RF lenses could be used by an APS-C shooter.
It’s unlikely that the EOS-R line will have aps-c size sensor, only FF but with an option to crop the FOV, adding a flavor of crop sensor. In fact, the RP has that exact concept

The R flange is intended for maximum aperature and FF would be optimal to capture all of the lights; aps-c sensor would be a sacrifice.

A pro version should feature:
-FF 35mp (option to crop to 25MP)
-7fps @ FF; 11fps @ crop mode
-1080p @30.00fps only
-compact body with industry standard LP-E6 battery
-dual pixel AF
-$3200
-release in 2021 to phase out the 5D completely


Jk @ the 30.00fps, a 2008 drama.... if you’re in the VDSLR game then....
 
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padam

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If you ask me, the same kind of firm that advanced specs like the 28-70/2 could well try to blow more minds with a 100/1.2 at some point.
Even if we ignore the pricing (and the demand that comes with it), I don't think that is feasible if the glass becomes so big, that moving the focus group quickly but precisely becomes an even bigger challenge than it was in the RF 50/1.2 (the developers wrote about it) - and that is definitely a smaller and lighter lens than the 85/1.2, but really not small or light at all in absolute terms.
Actually, the RF 28-70/2 does not seem like unreasonably heavy in comparison(but still very heavy in absolute terms), although it is not quite as perfect optically either.
 

proutprout

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Personnaly i would love a R that does video nicely - with good slowmo, beautiful image and solid build. I’m waiting for something around 5d / 1dx that will allow me to shoot videos and still be portable enough to shoot nice picts. The 85DS looks very nice on paper, cant wait to see what it will do. Please canon release a pro body soon with video in mind !
 
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peterzuehlke

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Oct 1, 2015
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I’m selfishly disappointed that a 100 f1.4 L isn’t coming soon. Not any news regarding that lens? 85 is a tad short for me..
I feel that way about 85 too. I think of it as 50 with a little cropping built-in, HaHa. And since Canon doesn't have a 50 IS I use 85 (also have a 45 Tamron VC) for low light normal shooting. Sigma's 105 1.4 is a beast but the 135 Sigma 1.8 isn't so bad, don't have one, but it looks good.
 

efmshark

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7D Mark iii with a new 40MP APS-C sensor. Full width oversampled (4 sensor pixels per video pixel) 4K video. Same sensor may be used in future Canon Cinema models to deliver oversampled 4K video.
 

overniven

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I really hope they continue to build out EF-M. I’m not hopeful, but I’d like to see a new M5 class , and see them fill out the lineup with more $400-500 primes like the 32mm F1.4. It doesn’t have to be their main focus. Options are nice.
 

Viggo

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It'd only take minimal cropping. The DOF etc. of cropped 85/1.2 is the same as 100/1.4. (They're both circa 71mm entrance aperture, along with 135/2 and 200/2.8.) The much more accurate AF of the R, plus the sharpness (if it's anything like the 50/1.2) should allow you to blow up a bit more.

If you ask me, the same kind of firm that advanced specs like the 28-70/2 could well try to blow more minds with a 100/1.2 at some point.
I’m seriously not cropping away bokeh or pixels in any way shape or form if it isn’t HIGHLY required and I’ve shot a lot with both 85 and 100 and for portraits I like 100 a lot more, it’s like 50 and 35, I always know exactly what I get in the frame. I’ll also use it for kids soccer and ballet and I’ll have to crop with a 100mm sometimes. 100 is much more exciting to use for me.

I saw someone mention the Sigma, and I’ll never buy a Sigma ever again, but I saw Otus 100 f1.4 mentioned and that tickles me toes :p I’ve owned the Zeiss 100 f2 mp previously and it’s my favorite portrait lens of all times, epic epic lens...
 
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padam

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I saw someone mention the Sigma, and I’ll never buy a Sigma ever again, but I saw Otus 100 f1.4 mentioned and that tickles me toes :p I’ve owned the Zeiss 100 f2 mp previously and it’s my favorite portrait lens of all times, epic epic lens...
I do agree that some copies to have unexpected focusing problems in mirror-mode, but so far I really don't have anything bad to say about the Sigma in Live-View mode with the latest firmware, it simply does what's being told, looked at them at 100%, no difference to Canon lenses whatsoever, and why would it behave any differently on an EOS R, I am sure the forums would already been filled with complaints and I am not seeing that so far.
Yes, the color rendition is more greenish compared to the Canon, but it is certainly delivers very nice-looking images for way, way less money. Good job they are still coming out with EF glass(28/1.4, nice), because, for now, they are certainly being trolled by Canon and Nikon to join their native system.


Of course everyone has a dream, for me it is the EF 35/1.4 II look and optical quality, but with much reduced size and weight, like a Leica 35 Lux with AF ;)
 
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ykn123

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well, just give me more FPS in Servo Mode on the R - other than that i LOVE it. I just did some testing with my 100 f2.8 IS L on the EOS-R and really it blew me away. My dog wasn't really fast running (just normal walked towards me), i used the R in Av mode, Auto ISO , longest shutter time set to Auto (+2) and AF mode to single with sourroundig 4 or environment (surrounding 9) . I would not normally consider this lens a action lens and i tested it just because i'm gonna test all my EF lenses on the R over time. In fact on my DSLR's i had to do some tough AF adjustements for this lens (using focal) and never was 100% satisfied. The image is the last (before he was too close to me) from a series and i really like the sharpness. It's f2.8 and 1/640s. Shot in raw and exported to jpeg with 2048 px - no idea how this looks here after posting.
EOR_3094.jpg
 

PureClassA

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7D Mark iii with a new 40MP APS-C sensor. Full width oversampled (4 sensor pixels per video pixel) 4K video. Same sensor may be used in future Canon Cinema models to deliver oversampled 4K video.
The 7 series will continue to be the APSC version of the 1DX series. Which means mid-20s to MAYBE 30MP with high FPS (10-12ish) WITH very accurate Servo AF at those rates.
 

Viggo

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I do agree that some copies to have unexpected focusing problems in mirror-mode, but so far I really don't have anything bad to say about the Sigma in Live-View mode with the latest firmware, it simply does what's being told, looked at them at 100%, no difference to Canon lenses whatsoever, and why would it behave any differently on an EOS R, I am sure the forums would already been filled with complaints and I am not seeing that so far.
Yes, the color rendition is more greenish compared to the Canon, but it is certainly delivers very nice-looking images for way, way less money. Good job they are still coming out with EF glass(28/1.4, nice), because, for now, they are certainly being trolled by Canon and Nikon to join their native system.


Of course everyone has a dream, for me it is the EF 35/1.4 II look and optical quality, but with much reduced size and weight, like a Leica 35 Lux with AF ;)
I don’t like the flat look they give...
 
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padam

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I don’t like the flat look they give...
A highly subjective thing as always, but for instance I really don't see either the 105/1.4 or the 135/1.8 looking flat. (Of course I can imagine a Zeiss 100/1.4 looking even better still - for way more money - but it's not like the former ones looking like crap)
 

FramerMCB

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No patent exists as far as I'm aware, so it is a very long way, there will be a 90mm or a 100mm 2.8 Macro IS some time later, some crazy wide-angle is also rumored. And besides the development announcements, I predict that a 100-400mm f3.5-5.6 patent is also a go, the demand is certainly there for that besides a 70-200 2.8.

Well the adapted EF Sigma 105/1.4 will work just fine, although huge, very heavy and unbalanced. And the Otus 100/1.4 is also coming very soon, but also very big and no AF.
I would not be the slightest bit surprised if Canon did an RF update of their 8-15mm f4.0L UWA Fisheye for the RF. Or a just a straight 10-15mm f4.0L rectilinear lens UWA (non-fisheye). And perhaps some amalgamated version of the 10-22mm EF & 10-18 EF-S (a more budget minded UWA than any L lens but still a decent performer.