What’s next for the Canon EOS R system and the rest of the lineup?

Oct 19, 2017
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Personal experience with Sigma 35mm on 5DSR was not that pleasant and focus was consistently inconsistent! However, Sigma 20mm on EOS-R is totally different experience. It seems that later Sigma lenses on Canon mirrorless bodies perform quite well and features such as profile based correction and in camera vignetting removal work fine. I haven't tried Sigma's zoom or longer lenses, though.
on sensor AF is usually more accurate. That's the advantage of mirrorless... no lens calibration required. That's why many EF users are saying old EF lens are working much better on the R. I expect 3rd party EF lens AF to work much better on the R compared to DSLR. I guess this is the value of the R system that Canon has brought in and also banking on. the AF of EF lens on the R should be way better than EF 3rd party adapted option.
 

degos

EOS 80D
Mar 20, 2015
121
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Sorry, but such "threats" amuses me.
It's not really a threat, just pragmatism. Most Canon-aligned airshow shooters I know use the 7D2 with one or two lenses, the longest usually being one of the 150-600s*. Switching to Nikon wouldn't actually be that expensive for most of them, particuarly if they sent their long lens in for a mount conversion.

Nikon seems to be tempting more airshowers over every season, and they have some mid-level lenses like the 500mm f/5.6 that Canon shows no interest in replicating.

I can't understand Canon's silence on a possible 7D3. Even just a one-liner in a press release would keep people in the system for another year. I partly blame the photographic press for this, they are so busy fawning over new expensive products that are irrelevant for the majority of their readers instead of asking tough and pertinent questions.

* the really big whites are usually attached to 1DX2 for the guys with crazy money.
 
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max_sr

I'm New Here
Jan 8, 2019
23
19
7D Mark iii with a new 40MP APS-C sensor. Full width oversampled (4 sensor pixels per video pixel) 4K video. Same sensor may be used in future Canon Cinema models to deliver oversampled 4K video.
I would be happy, if it was 24 MP oversampled 4k, but I won't let my hopes get so high.
 

TMHKR

EOS 700D
Sep 1, 2018
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9
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I do agree that some copies to have unexpected focusing problems in mirror-mode, but so far I really don't have anything bad to say about the Sigma in Live-View mode with the latest firmware, it simply does what's being told, looked at them at 100%, no difference to Canon lenses whatsoever, and why would it behave any differently on an EOS R, I am sure the forums would already been filled with complaints and I am not seeing that so far.
Sigma bashing usually (not always) comes from the people who can't differentiate off-sensor and on-sensor focusing methods - some of them even returning their purchases. Throw your camera to live view mode (basically turning your DSLR to mirrorless), and focus inconsistency problems are gone. This is why mirrorless is the future when it comes to focusing accuracy. Yes, this does no good to older users accustomed to OVF shooting, but still... Oh, I almost forgot - it's not just Sigma. I had the same problem with some of Canon's own fast lenses.
 
Aug 5, 2018
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Why is there nothing in the pipeline for the average working professional?! Wedding photographers, commercial photographers, sports shooters, journalist... If any of our camera bodies need to be replaced, we'd be looking at buying a 5d IV or 1DX. Really old cameras that canon is no longer making lenses for. This puts us in a bad position and makes me uncomfortable.
 
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bokehmon22

EOS RP
Oct 31, 2016
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I’m seriously not cropping away bokeh or pixels in any way shape or form if it isn’t HIGHLY required and I’ve shot a lot with both 85 and 100 and for portraits I like 100 a lot more, it’s like 50 and 35, I always know exactly what I get in the frame. I’ll also use it for kids soccer and ballet and I’ll have to crop with a 100mm sometimes. 100 is much more exciting to use for me.

I saw someone mention the Sigma, and I’ll never buy a Sigma ever again, but I saw Otus 100 f1.4 mentioned and that tickles me toes :p I’ve owned the Zeiss 100 f2 mp previously and it’s my favorite portrait lens of all times, epic epic lens...
Me too. I love the compression from 100-135 range. 100mm work well both indoor and outdoor

Here is the rumored list dated 1/2/19. https://www.canonrumors.com/as-many-as-7-new-rf-lenses-coming-in-2019-cr2/
Rumoured RF lenses for 2019:
  • RF 16-35mm f/2.8L (or similar)
  • RF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS (or similar)
  • RF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS (or similar)
  • RF 105mm f/1.4L
  • RF 85mm f/1.8 IS STM
  • RF Macro lens
  • RF non-L kit lens
 
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bokehmon22

EOS RP
Oct 31, 2016
303
164
Why is there nothing in the pipeline for the average working professional?! Wedding photographers, commercial photographers, sports shooters, journalist... If any of our camera bodies need to be replaced, we'd be looking at buying a 5d IV or 1DX. Really old cameras that canon is no longer making lenses for. This puts us in a bad position and makes me uncomfortable.
Me too. I wish it's a 5DIV replacement coming out next. If I know it's a 5DSr or 1DXII, I'll consider getting another camera in the mean time.
 

TMHKR

EOS 700D
Sep 1, 2018
18
9
29
If any of our camera bodies need to be replaced, we'd be looking at buying a 5d IV or 1DX. Really old cameras that canon is no longer making lenses for. This puts us in a bad position and makes me uncomfortable.
Why not? What's wrong with current L-series lenses for 5D IV or 1D X?
 

Bambel

EOS M50
Jun 12, 2018
32
25
Full frame sensors don't really require cutting edge silicon technology in terms of features sizes (transistor gate width and metal pitch), so Canon and others can use a few generation older CMOS processes running on possibly fully depreciated fabs or production lines, with very mature yields.
The pixels are not the problem, but the other elements on the same die are. The sensor in the Sony A9 has one DAC on the end of each image line! You can’t do that in 180nm which afaik is canons best tech. Sony uses 46nm or so. They developed all that for smartphone cameras and used the same tech on much larger sensors. Canon is speed limited and only can go faster with lower MP, see 1DX2.

B.
 

padam

EOS 7D MK II
Aug 26, 2015
482
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Why is there nothing in the pipeline for the average working professional?! Wedding photographers, commercial photographers, sports shooters, journalist... If any of our camera bodies need to be replaced, we'd be looking at buying a 5d IV or 1DX. Really old cameras that canon is no longer making lenses for. This puts us in a bad position and makes me uncomfortable.
This might be the reason:


They are working on it, but they are not there yet. But the time they will get there, lenses will be already available. The afromentioned DSLRs are widely used and work perfectly fine for that purpose, older also means cheaper bodies and lenses, better value.
 

TAF

EOS RP
Feb 26, 2012
317
15
Has anyone else noticed that in the advertising for the RP, Canon states that it is the smallest and lightest EOS full frame, but there is an asterisk?

An asterisk which goes to a footnote that says "To Date".

Doesn't that imply they are looking at making an even smaller and/or lighter one?

I need to handle one (and the R as well) to see if they are at the 'sweet spot' for my hand size. That will control which one (if either) I buy.

Bravo to Canon for bringing these out.
 

Mark D5 TEAM II

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Mar 5, 2013
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Has anyone else noticed that in the advertising for the RP, Canon states that it is the smallest and lightest EOS full frame, but there is an asterisk?

An asterisk which goes to a footnote that says "To Date".

Doesn't that imply they are looking at making an even smaller and/or lighter one?

I need to handle one (and the R as well) to see if they are at the 'sweet spot' for my hand size. That will control which one (if either) I buy.

Bravo to Canon for bringing these out.

Nope, that's just standard marketing material fine print because no camera company can predict the future. Nothing unusual about it.
 

bbb34

EOS T7i
Jul 24, 2012
58
31
Amsterdam
Why is there nothing in the pipeline for the average working professional?! Wedding photographers, commercial photographers, sports shooters, journalist... If any of our camera bodies need to be replaced, we'd be looking at buying a 5d IV or 1DX. Really old cameras that canon is no longer making lenses for. This puts us in a bad position and makes me uncomfortable.
How do you know that there is no DSLR in the pipeline? It was more than 4 years from 5D mk3 to mk4. mk4 was only announced in August 2016. And it is the same for the 1D X mk 2. It was announced in February 2016. Even without the R product line, one wouldn't expect successor models before 2020.

We don't know if Canon is developing new EF lenses, but they are still making them. Selling mature products should be very profitable.
 
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analoggrotto

EOS T7i
Aug 27, 2016
60
22
Canon really should have released an RF 50mm F1.8 alongside the new RF50 F1.2L; would have matched so well to the RP
 

Hector1970

EOS 6D MK II
Mar 22, 2012
970
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Now that the R and the RP are out of the way Canon can't make a more basic mirrorless camera.
The RP is surely the low end of full frame mirrorless.
The next ones have to have something new.
Hopefully serious rumours will start soon so that I have something to look forward to.
It would be unlike Canon to go all in but it would be nice to see a mirrorless camera coming out that doesn't feel like Canon is
deliberately compromising on.
I'd be happy with a 10 FPS, 30MP , Dual card slot, Eye Focus, Silent Shutter.
A 100 MP 5FPS would annoy me but tempt me depending on the quality of the image.
The 1DR will be outrageous in price when it eventually comes out. If there was some proof of life and an arrival date I might save for it.