What’s next from Canon?

Canon Rumors Guy

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If you follow a rumours site, it’s likely you always want to know what’s coming next. The following is what we have been told about over the last few weeks.
First up. obviously the Canon EOS-1D X Mark III is coming soon, we hear that shipping will begin in late February or early March after an official announcement in late January 2020.
There will be a new EOS R series camera announced in early February, it will be the high megapixel replacement for the EOS 5DS/5DS R, it will be equipped with Canon’s next-generation sensors, DIGIC processors and a new form factor that will include the smart controller we first saw on the EOS-1D X Mark III. This will not be the “pro” body that people are clamouring for, but it will be upmarket from the EOS R.

Canon will announce another 4-6 RF lenses in the first half of 2020, there is going to be a total of 8 new lenses coming next year we...
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melgross

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Well, the high Rez mirrorless body is what a bunch of us here have been waiting for.

so, that body, and three fast zooms will all that I would need for most things, plus a high quality 100mm, or so, macro. My daughter seems to have misplaced the 100mm EF.
 

Joules

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This will not be the “pro” body that people are clamouring for, but it will be upmarket from the EOS R.
What's that supposed to mean? It can't be a proper 5DS replacement without being a pro camera, or does it? I understood those terms to mean that the camera has two card slots and a bit better weather sealing than the R. Maybe an upgraded viewfinder.

With over a year of additional development time and a price tag above the R, I would have considered these a given.

What is the high res R expected to be missing?
 

IcyBergs

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I think what everybody is clamoring for is a true 5D series R body, call that "pro" or not, but that's what we want. I just wonder if this 5DS/r R replacement will be enough for some/most people in that camp to jump over to the R. Will be interesting to see. Especially as these RF lenses continue to tantalize.

I've never been in the market for a 5DS/r but depending on the specs for this R replacement (7-8fps range cleanish iso 6400), who knows it might be time to make the move.
 

SecureGSM

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I think what everybody is clamoring for is a true 5D series R body, call that "pro" or not, but that's what we want. I just wonder if this 5DS/r R replacement will be enough for some/most people in that camp to jump over to the R. Will be interesting to see. Especially as these RF lenses continue to tantalize.

I've never been in the market for a 5DS/r but depending on the specs for this R replacement (7-8fps range cleanish iso 6400), who knows it might be time to make the move.
At rumored 80Mb+ sensor resolution, this body will require a helluvalot of image stabilisation and is DLA-ed already at F6.3.
not sure 7-8FPS speed is a requirement for a tripod mounted camera and nor is a high ISO capabilities.
 
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amorse

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What's that supposed to mean? It can't be a proper 5DS replacement without being a pro camera, or does it? I understood those terms to mean that the camera has two card slots and a bit better weather sealing than the R. Maybe an upgraded viewfinder.

With over a year of additional development time and a price tag above the R, I would have considered these a given.

What is the high res R expected to be missing?
I've always thought the the perspective of many was that the only thing that qualified as a professional body was a 1D-style body. I suspect the higher resolution body may not be really missing anything, but rather it isn't the speed demon and built like the tank that the 1D is.
 

Cryve

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Ive got an interesting story as to why im possibly very interested in the high mp canon eos r camera.


over the past two years i felt a bit let down by canon for not supporting the "low budged" wildlife community as much as wished for. I had really hoped for the 7d iii and when the rumors about no 7d iii and only a 90d showed up i was very disappointed.
Then i saw sony announcing and releasing the 200-600 and the a7r iv, which seemed to me like everything i had whished for in a portable wildlife setup, so i bought the camera.

But for the last two months i only had problems with the sony setup. my plan was to use my sigma 150-600 sport with canon mount on a sigma mc11 adapter until i could save enough money to buy the sony 200-600. With the adapted lens i had a big backfocus at 600mm and couldnt really use it. So i speed up my saving and quickly bough the 200-600 but i had the same backfocus on that too, so i sent it back.
I then tested my sony a7r iv with a completly different 200-600 at my dealer and again the backfocus. My dealer then exchanged it against a new a7r iv... but still the same backfocus.
I even sent in bouth of my sony a7r iv for repair but they said they cant do anything about it (only sent in the body, not the lens).

Now im visiting my dad and checked out the camera store near his city and tried out their a7r iv and 200-600 they had... again a backfocus.

I dont know why noone so far has talked about this problem. Maybe they dont pixelpeep enough.
Well ... at this point it seems to me like sony is really a huge let down for me.

So i look forward to that canon, but im afraid it probably wont focus well enough for wildlife, what do you guys think?
 

TominNJ

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Im a 5D IV shooter. I’m interested if it has focus bracketing that works with at least some of my lenses. If not then I’ll wait and see what the new 5D camera has.
 

IcyBergs

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At rumored 80Mb+ sensor resolution, this body will require a helluvalot of image stabilisation and is DLA-ed already at F6.3.
not sure 7-8FPS speed is a requirement for a tripod mounted camera and nor is a high ISO capabilities.
Agreed, not a requirement. I'm not in the target market for this body, but I'm interested to see if the the full spec list and how many who are waiting for the 5D all-arounder are going to be tempted. The premise of 80mp as rumored would probably not cut it, but that like everything else is just a rumor. If we see something in the 60mp range than things could be different.

Remember, once upon a time Canon had a very consolidated camera line-up. 5D was the high resolution body back in the mk2 days. It wasn't until the dslr boom of the late 00's that Canon started to split the segments up ie (7d, 6d, later 5ds). We might be headed back to those days except this time on a full-frame only platform.

RP - Rebel/Kiss/xxxd
R- XXd
Rumored R - 5D
Future R - 1D

At some point I will buy an R body, nothing released has gotten me to do it yet. With each one that is subsequently released I'll be asking myself the same question, and as long as everything is just a rumor...I'll continue to speculate.
 

Adelino

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I've always thought the the perspective of many was that the only thing that qualified as a professional body was a 1D-style body. I suspect the higher resolution body may not be really missing anything, but rather it isn't the speed demon and built like the tank that the 1D is.
Canon have outright stated that is what they consider pro. A LOT of pros consider other cameras pro.
 
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SecureGSM

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... but I'm interested to see if the the full spec list and how many who are waiting for the 5D all-arounder are going to be tempted ...
not many. for the reason I have stated above. 5DS/R is a specialist camera, same as the high res R. good for studio, landscapes, city scapes, fashion, products.. not great for events, PJ and any sort of run and gun photography.
 
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RiceCanon

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I'd be very interested in a high megapixel mirrorless camera but only if it has specs good for birding/wildlife, namely great focus and tracking, good high ISO performance and fast fps. Introduce it with a new 100-400 or 200-600 lens and I'm on board!
 
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Joules

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At rumored 80Mb+ sensor resolution, this body will require a helluvalot of image stabilisation and is DLA-ed already at F6.3.
not sure 7-8FPS speed is a requirement for a tripod mounted camera and nor is a high ISO capabilities.
This camera will require no more image stabilization and won't have worse high ISO capabilities than any lower resolution equivalents.

It's just when you want to take full advantage of the additional detail you can capture with such a sensor that it becomes more challenging. But on a lower res model, it is simply impossible - so that's not a disadvantage.

I'm very curious where the 5D V will end up fitting in the line up.
 

Viggo

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At rumored 80Mb+ sensor resolution, this body will require a helluvalot of image stabilisation and is DLA-ed already at F6.3.
not sure 7-8FPS speed is a requirement for a tripod mounted camera and nor is a high ISO capabilities.
More like at f 4.5 :p
 
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I think what everybody is clamoring for is a true 5D series R body, call that "pro" or not, but that's what we want. I just wonder if this 5DS/r R replacement will be enough for some/most people in that camp to jump over to the R. Will be interesting to see. Especially as these RF lenses continue to tantalize.

I've never been in the market for a 5DS/r but depending on the specs for this R replacement (7-8fps range cleanish iso 6400), who knows it might be time to make the move.
I've got the 5DS / 5DSR and use it at weddings. It's really as pro as the 5D mk iii or 5D mk iv had it mirrored the latter. I think how its higher resolution and pixel size comes into play with shutter speed or lens selection may be the distinguishing factor why it's not considered the first RF "pro" body to come.

For example, the recommended lens lists for the 5DSR are easy to search and find. The Canon 16-35mm mk ii is not on that list, but the first version was compatible. I think the Mk iii became compatible too.

So the 5DS and 5DSR worked excellent for weddings and events, but required being more careful about lens choices, a tad faster shutter some times, and a few less frames per second. A new "pro" RF may be different in a similar fashion.

If the new RF body to upgrade the 5DSR has two cards, has everything the EOS R can do, plus some extra resolution, that may be what I'd prefer for my pro RF body anyway. Assuming it's priced similar to where the 5DSR was released
 
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Mikehit

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At rumored 80Mb+ sensor resolution, this body will require a helluvalot of image stabilisation and is DLA-ed already at F6.3.
And yet it will still have superior resolution, and greater cropping potential, to lower MP bodies under the same conditions. Which is all that potential buyers will be interested in.
 
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geffy

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Jun 24, 2019
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Ive got an interesting story as to why im possibly very interested in the high mp canon eos r camera.


over the past two years i felt a bit let down by canon for not supporting the "low budged" wildlife community as much as wished for. I had really hoped for the 7d iii and when the rumors about no 7d iii and only a 90d showed up i was very disappointed.
Then i saw sony announcing and releasing the 200-600 and the a7r iv, which seemed to me like everything i had whished for in a portable wildlife setup, so i bought the camera.

But for the last two months i only had problems with the sony setup. my plan was to use my sigma 150-600 sport with canon mount on a sigma mc11 adapter until i could save enough money to buy the sony 200-600. With the adapted lens i had a big backfocus at 600mm and couldnt really use it. So i speed up my saving and quickly bough the 200-600 but i had the same backfocus on that too, so i sent it back.
I then tested my sony a7r iv with a completly different 200-600 at my dealer and again the backfocus. My dealer then exchanged it against a new a7r iv... but still the same backfocus.
I even sent in bouth of my sony a7r iv for repair but they said they cant do anything about it (only sent in the body, not the lens).

Now im visiting my dad and checked out the camera store near his city and tried out their a7r iv and 200-600 they had... again a backfocus.

I dont know why noone so far has talked about this problem. Maybe they dont pixelpeep enough.
Well ... at this point it seems to me like sony is really a huge let down for me.

So i look forward to that canon, but im afraid it probably wont focus well enough for wildlife, what do you guys think?
how do you suffer backfocus with a mirrorless, is that not a mirror issue?