What Do You Want To See in the Canon EOS 5D Mark IV?

aclectasis

EOS M50
Mar 20, 2014
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Did you know the original 1D also had 1/16000 of a second max shutter speed? Groovy stuff. Things that really push the boundaries could really allow the 5dIV to be ahead of the game for some people.

I think it's too little, too late now. Sony already have the mirrorless market growing and make more of their money from it, it's "the future" and they're fully invested in in.

I've already moved to sony, but kept my Canon lenses. The bodies just no longer cut it. Bye Canon.
 

can0nfan2379

EOS 80D
Sep 30, 2012
142
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To the above list I will add user replaceable focus screens and a more accurate focus confirmation indicator in MF (eg. Less "wiggle room" for the focus confirmation light to remain lit)
 

3kramd5

EOS 5D MK IV
Mar 2, 2012
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alliumnsk said:
Why so many people want faster X-sync? Just pick up a leaf shutter camera if you need it
Sure. Just build up a different camera system for each desired feature.

Why do people want 4k? Just pick up a RED if you need it.
Why do people want high framerate? Just pick up a Phantom if you need it.
Why do people want TS-E lenses? Just pick up a view camera if you need it.
Why do people want higher resolution? Just pick up a Better Light if you need it.
 

ksgal

EOS T7i
Oct 16, 2014
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alliumnsk said:
Why so many people want faster X-sync? Just pick up a leaf shutter camera if you need it
Because I like shooting with my 70-200 2.8 and at the 200mm end, at 2.8 and it gets much better for sharpness when I can balance the ambient and flash at a turn of the shutter dial up to higher than 1/160 (my sync on the 5DII on a good day, usually 1/125) A faster shutter sync would be a total game changer for those of us who like to use flash in our outdoor pics. Would totally set the camera apart from every other pro full frame body.

I wish I had unlimited funds, but I dont' see any profoto's in my future, either.
 
Apr 21, 2015
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and what about some focus peaking?

I used the Sony RX1R about a month ago and I fell in love focus peaking. You can even auto 10x-zoom when focus peeking to dial it in. I have several Rokinon lenses right now and it be great to have this feature.

I agree with many of the others. With a four year life cycle Canon would be nuts not to include 4k. The freaking iPhone shoots 4k. The 5Ds has established itself as the studio camera, this mkIV needs to compete with A7Rii

One last thing. How about a really advanced built-in intervalometer. Something for advanced time-lapse shooting. It's an easy software addition and would be a nice "extra" feature.
 

alliumnsk

I'm New Here
Jul 2, 2014
21
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aclectasis said:
Did you know the original 1D also had 1/16000 of a second max shutter speed?
Who needs that gimmick? With such shutterspeeds, the slit becomes so thin so diffraction starts to be noticeable.
And still you can't shoot sunspots
 
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alliumnsk said:
aclectasis said:
Did you know the original 1D also had 1/16000 of a second max shutter speed?
Who needs that gimmick? With such shutterspeeds, the slit becomes so thin so diffraction starts to be noticeable.
And still you can't shoot sunspots
Actually, I've bounced of the 5DIII's max 1/8000th sec shutter speed a few times. It often occurs when using fast primes like an 85mm f1.2L in bright sunlight.
 

MaxDiesel

EOS M50
Sep 23, 2015
27
3
The next body needs, without repeating others;

Automatic in body AMFA adjustments.
Eye focus (at minimum eye tracking of subject at maximum moving of focus points with my eye.
Some sort of hybrid optical viewfinder with electronic overlay or an add on external fully tiltable evf.
In Body stabilization. (Which I highly doubt will ever happen)
CLog and colour profiles to match cinema line.
Focus points that fill at least 80% of the viewing area. None of this restrictive diamond shape.
Loose the joystick for moving focus points and add some sort of trackpad like on PS4 controllers.
While not necessary I'd like to see wifi to send certain images quickly to my tablet for the model or social media.
External uncompressed 10bit 422 via hdmi but preferably sdi.
Global shutter this way no more high speed sync needed and great for video
APSC crop mode.
 

eyeland

Daybreak broke me loose and brought me back...
Feb 28, 2012
152
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Denmark/Isreal
1/500 Sync speed
EC in M mode
spot-meter linked to AF
Better video (better video codec, higher data rate and 1080/60 - 720/120)
Better SD speeds or 2xCF

There are many other things that I would love to see, but the above list would be enough for me to justify the upgrade.
 

rs

EOS 6D MK II
Dec 29, 2012
1,024
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UK
schmidtfilme said:
I want an EVF. If it has one I buy it.
I presume you mean a hybrid EVF/OVF?

A move across the board to pure EVF's by Canon would gift Nikon the top DSLR manufacturers position ahead of pretty much only Pentax and Sigma.
 

roxics

EOS T7i
Jul 30, 2013
76
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Definitely 4K. Actual DCI 4K and UHD at a high bitrate with at least 13 stops dynamic range in video mode and CLog.
CFast 2.0 card slot would be nce. If the 5D gets it the price of these cards will surely drop quicker with so many cameras out there using them. Plus the Magic Lantern guys would probably appreciate(and need) the faster write speeds if they hack the camera to shoot 4K raw.
Would love to see a flip out screen like on the 70D, but I know this will never happen on the 5D series.
 

Ladislav

EOS RP
Feb 13, 2013
332
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If Canon want's to continue their business with DSLR for video they should release 5Dc with all that fancy stuff you guys are asking for - and fancy price tag. There should be an option to have a pro-level body without paying for advanced video features many photographers are never going to use.
 

AvTvM

EOS 5D MK IV
Nov 4, 2011
3,165
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what would I like to see in the 5D II successor?
- no mirror
- no prism
- no mechanical shutter
- no top display
- no bigger or heavier than Sony A7R II
+ Full HD EVF
+ Eye Control (ECF) AF v2.0
+ fully competitive sensor
+ really fast (DP or other) AF system

and split in two different models:
* one expensive € 5000+ with freking awesome 4k video and
* a cheap "stills only" version for me at € 1999 with no video-out whatsoever, only what's needed for LiveView feed

+ a good starting line-up of new, EF-X mirroless mount short-flangeback lenses - optically very good, as compact as possible, as reasonably priced as possible [basically FF equivalents to the EF-M lineup!] and make 'em "pure AF" = no focus ring, but perfectly weather-sealed and robust. If possible a non-mechanical aperture - meaning, no iris, but something like a variable size round LCD screen

thats about it. 8)
 

SwnSng

EOS 80D
Jun 20, 2013
135
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28mp+ with Crop Modes
7-8 FPS
Improved AF
Better Shadow Recovery (DR)
ST Transmitter
4k
Intervalometer
 
Sep 19, 2015
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I'd like to see more robust flash features. It's impossible to 2nd sync various flashes and strobes without accessories, or only Canon brand etc which are usually pricey.

I was using some Elinchrom Ranger Q hybrids for some long exposure flash work. I ended up using a D800e to shoot with as it could 2nd sync the skyport. Whats more the Nikon will pretty much 2nd sync anything, its extremely versatile and required no extra accessories.
 

Velo Steve

EOS T7i
Mar 3, 2011
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Top 3 for me:

1) Remove or greatly reduce the low pass filter (think 5DS R without the huge pixel count)
2) Higher dynamic range
3) I'd hardly miss video if they dropped it entirely.

Okay, a few others, partly poached from other posts:
- In-body MFA adjustment (or at least make life easy for FoCal and others)
- Slightly higher shots per second
- Better focus tracking of a small object on a complex background (yes, it's hard)
- If there's GPS, it needs to get initial lock quickly. It's too much of a battery hog to leave on all day
- Waterproof to 100 meters. Oh, sorry - I know that's not reasonable.
 

scyrene

EOS 5D MK IV
Dec 4, 2013
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AvTvM said:
what would I like to see in the 5D II successor?
- no mirror
- no prism
- no mechanical shutter
- no top display
- no bigger or heavier than Sony A7R II
+ Full HD EVF
+ Eye Control (ECF) AF v2.0
+ fully competitive sensor
+ really fast (DP or other) AF system

and split in two different models:
* one expensive € 5000+ with freking awesome 4k video and
* a cheap "stills only" version for me at € 1999 with no video-out whatsoever, only what's needed for LiveView feed

+ a good starting line-up of new, EF-X mirroless mount short-flangeback lenses - optically very good, as compact as possible, as reasonably priced as possible [basically FF equivalents to the EF-M lineup!] and make 'em "pure AF" = no focus ring, but perfectly weather-sealed and robust. If possible a non-mechanical aperture - meaning, no iris, but something like a variable size round LCD screen

thats about it. 8)
Aw, you forgot to use your favourite word 'mirrorslappers' :p

What about us wildlife photographers (and sports, and others)? I sure ain't handholding a supertele on a tiny mirrorless body.
 

scyrene

EOS 5D MK IV
Dec 4, 2013
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635
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aclectasis said:
Did you know the original 1D also had 1/16000 of a second max shutter speed? Groovy stuff. Things that really push the boundaries could really allow the 5dIV to be ahead of the game for some people.

I think it's too little, too late now. Sony already have the mirrorless market growing and make more of their money from it, it's "the future" and they're fully invested in in.

I've already moved to sony, but kept my Canon lenses. The bodies just no longer cut it. Bye Canon.
At the risk of sounding like Neuro, I think the sales figures speak to a different narrative. You switched brands, I'm glad you made the right decision for yourself. But that Sony mirrorless is the future, is supposition only at this point.