Samyang doesn't provide IS or autofocus in their lenses but the competing Canon model doesn't have IS or autofocus either. Samyang had to provide for essentially the same mechanical operation but wanted to supply the lens at half the price... so where else were savings going to be made?neuroanatomist said:I think people are always upset when their expectations aren't met. Samyang has released several lenses that are optically very good, and at a bargain price. This lens appears to be neither.
Exactly:Random Orbits said:neuroanatomist said:noisejammer said:Let me get this right.
A $1k lens is not as sharp as a $2k lens... and you're spitting mad? Have you never thought that (usually) you pay for what you get? Quite often, you pay a lot more.
I think people are always upset when their expectations aren't met. Samyang has released several lenses that are optically very good, and at a bargain price. This lens appears to be neither.
+1. Before it was released, a lot of people were hoping that it would approach the TS-E 24L II in performance. Now it seems like the discussion is turning to comparing how it does versus TS-E 24L (version I), which is similar in price used...
noisejammer said:Samyang doesn't provide IS or autofocus in their lenses but the competing Canon model doesn't have IS or autofocus either. Samyang had to provide for essentially the same mechanical operation but wanted to supply the lens at half the price... so where else were savings going to be made?
Sure... it's not up to their earlier optical standards but it is still half the price. Say it was 80% of the Canon and performed similarly... then everyone would be bleating that it was too expensive. The hard truth is that an optic costs what an optic costs. Either you buy it or you don't.
dadgummit said:noisejammer said:If you're cash strapped, it's fairly easy to find 35 /2.8 FD mount TS lenses and Mika offers a conversion kit. Going this route will usually cost less than $1k.
I agree, this seems to be the way to go. My Edmika converted 35 /2.8 FD mount TS lens is much sharper than the Samyang TS 24 example shots from that review. It is also sharper than the Canon 45mm TS that I ended up selling after getting the FD.
IMO, that's not really a sensible comparison - you're comparing the Samyang offering with Canon's most overpriced lens! Besides, the Samyang does have some strange distortions that the Canon doesn't. Yes, I know these can be corrected...insanitybeard said:OK, but as an example look at the Samyang 14mm 2.8, FAR, FAR cheaper than the Canon 14mm 2.8L but optically as good as if not better in most areas of performance, and here in the UK is only 20% of the cost of the Canon L! The Samyang tilt shift by comparison is 60% of the cost of the Canon 24mm tilt shift in the UK at present and optically inferior by some margin, so subjective value is much lower with this lens than Samyang's 14mm.