What's keeping IS from going beyond 4 stops compensation?

Khalai

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sunnyVan said:
I'm not an engineer and I know little about how IS works. Just curious why the best IS can offer about 4 stops compensation and not more. 4 stops is nice but why can't it improve further?

I'm going on a limb here, but I guess it's because another step means DOUBLING the time. Right now, 4-stops means 16 times longer time than recommended. 5-stops would be 32 times longer. Which is starting to seem a little ridiculous IMHO :)
 
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nc0b

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Here is my guess, as I am not a mechanical engineer either. When hand holding a camera and lens, there is small movement jitter. In addition there are larger arm and body movements. It is one thing to try and compensate for the jittery movements, but gyroscopic IS compensating optical group can only compensate for so much for more gross body movements.

Regardless whether we are using an older 2 stop IS lens or a more modern 4 stop IS lens, the amount of camera movement blur will vary from shot to shot. Of course technique will help in all cases. If I can sit down on the ground and cradle my camera and arms against my knees, I am likely to do better than standing upright with no additional steadying support.
 
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I'm a Professional engineer, but I do not design lenses. I do know a little about how they work, and as lot about how electronic and mechanical design works.

Image Stabilization is accomplished by moving a lens element or group in order to keep the projected image stable on the camera sensor. This means that motion sensing elements in the lens must detect any tiny movement and acceleration, send a signal to the voice coil type motor that moves that element just the right amount to offset movement in the lens. If the signal isn't just perfect, the movement will overshoot, and the image will jump, so a feedback circuit determines when the lens element is moving too much, and a correction is introduced. If the gain of the circuit doing this is set too high, the IS lens group will just keep moving, so it has to damp out and stop very quickly.

In order to add a additional stop of IS, the motion detector must be more sensitive, the motor must be more powerful, and the feedback control must have more gain. This gets difficult and expensive, its not a linear function, a additional stop might up the cost 100 times or more.

I suspect that the sensors are already pushing the limits of sensitivity for low cost commercial sensors, a larger motor needs to be bigger and takes more power, and the feedback circuits fall in the same category as the sensor.

I am certain that 5 stop IS is possible, but the price might be breathtaking and out of proportion to the value of the lens. The designer has to balance all the factors and give the customer the best bang for his buck. Adding $1000(or whatever the cost) for 1 stop better IS does not deliver enough value to the buyer for his expense.
 
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