Title says it all.. I know what I want, I've stated it often enough.. but what would others want without biasing the thread.
Let's list your top 3 in order.
Let's list your top 3 in order.
Which Canon lens is most in need of updating.
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Many possible lists...
Which three do I think 'most people' want updated?
1. EF 50mm f/1.4
2. EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8
3. EF 85mm f/1.8
Which three do I want updated?
1. MP-E 65mm f/2.8
2. EF 135mm f/2L
3. TS-E 90mm f/2.8
Which three does ahsanford want updated?
1. EF 50mm f/1.4
2. EF 50mm f/1.4
3. EF 50mm f/1.4
Which three do I think 'most people' want updated?
1. EF 50mm f/1.4
2. EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8
3. EF 85mm f/1.8
Which three do I want updated?
1. MP-E 65mm f/2.8
2. EF 135mm f/2L
3. TS-E 90mm f/2.8
Which three does ahsanford want updated?
1. EF 50mm f/1.4
2. EF 50mm f/1.4
3. EF 50mm f/1.4
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The lens I hope the most of, for a soon upgrade, is the 50L. The current is very good in terms of bokeh, and I appreciate the size and weather sealing. However, I wish it focused faster, more precise, and without focus shift when stopping down. It needs to be a little sharper wide open as well. It is too soft wide open, especially with the 5Ds.
Second I hope for a new 85 f1.8 with IS. Third, a 50 f1.4 with IS, with better focusing, better build, and better wide open performance.
Second I hope for a new 85 f1.8 with IS. Third, a 50 f1.4 with IS, with better focusing, better build, and better wide open performance.
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I agree with the Neuro list.
For most people there are many reasons to not buy Canon 17-55mm, 50mm F1.4, 85mm F1.8.
For most people there are many reasons to not buy Canon 17-55mm, 50mm F1.4, 85mm F1.8.
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I think the lenses most in *need* of an update are:
1. 85L (autofocus really needs to be modernized)
2. 50 f/1.4
3. TS-E 45/90 (both could use sharpness on par with the 17 and 24)
1. 85L (autofocus really needs to be modernized)
2. 50 f/1.4
3. TS-E 45/90 (both could use sharpness on par with the 17 and 24)
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Writing this list made me realize that Canon has really done a great job updating their most important lenses recently.
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[*]1: 85mm F/1.2L: I've been interested in buying one for portraits but I can imagine it would be so much better for my uses with BR, weather sealing, and faster autofocus. I'd (somehow) accept bigger size if AF could improve to sports-shooting levels.
[*]2: 50mm f/1.2L: Similar to the 85mm F/1.2L, but I rented one once and really enjoyed the tiny size for such a bright lens. Definitely could improve with BR and finding a way to cope with the focus shift.
[*]3: 28-300mm L: I don't have interest in the current version of this lens, but if Canon could surprise us with a really great upgrade, I'd be in.
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[*]1: 85mm F/1.2L: I've been interested in buying one for portraits but I can imagine it would be so much better for my uses with BR, weather sealing, and faster autofocus. I'd (somehow) accept bigger size if AF could improve to sports-shooting levels.
[*]2: 50mm f/1.2L: Similar to the 85mm F/1.2L, but I rented one once and really enjoyed the tiny size for such a bright lens. Definitely could improve with BR and finding a way to cope with the focus shift.
[*]3: 28-300mm L: I don't have interest in the current version of this lens, but if Canon could surprise us with a really great upgrade, I'd be in.
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50 1.4 is numero uno, of course. Doubly so if the replacement has IS...but if it doesn't I'll understand.
The 28-300 would be my 2nd choice. Now that the 24-105 and 70-300 have been updated, the 28-300 could use a refresh as well.
Then, #3 would be perhaps the 1.2 version of the 50...I'd love to see what is effectively a Canon version of the Sigma 50 Art.
The 28-300 would be my 2nd choice. Now that the 24-105 and 70-300 have been updated, the 28-300 could use a refresh as well.
Then, #3 would be perhaps the 1.2 version of the 50...I'd love to see what is effectively a Canon version of the Sigma 50 Art.
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All of canon's latest releases have knocked potentials off the list. 16-35 2.8? Check 100-400? Check 35 1.4? Check 400 do? Check
That leaves the most-favoured pick of the 50mm 1.4
The others imo would be:
50mm 1.2
85mm 1.2
28-300
I'd include the two longer TS-E's but personally view them as somewhat of a specialty, especially in these days of high res and post processing correction. Is ts-e better? Of course, but not many of us could tell the difference.
A couple holes they could fill would be:
Coma-free FullFrame UWA 24mm 1.4 or 14mm 2.8 (depending on the new 16-35's performance)
Fast UWA for crop
50mm f/1.whatever IS with ring type USM
Budget supertelephoto [zoom] ~600mm
That leaves the most-favoured pick of the 50mm 1.4
The others imo would be:
50mm 1.2
85mm 1.2
28-300
I'd include the two longer TS-E's but personally view them as somewhat of a specialty, especially in these days of high res and post processing correction. Is ts-e better? Of course, but not many of us could tell the difference.
A couple holes they could fill would be:
Coma-free FullFrame UWA 24mm 1.4 or 14mm 2.8 (depending on the new 16-35's performance)
Fast UWA for crop
50mm f/1.whatever IS with ring type USM
Budget supertelephoto [zoom] ~600mm
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I'm an outlier. Don't care about either 50mm or 85mm lenses.
I'm interested in improvements rather than updates of these three:
15 - 85mm efs to f4 non-variable aperture and maybe an extra mm or two
At the wide end and an extra 10-15 mm at the long end.
300mm f4 with improved IS and other updates.
400 mm f5.6 moved to 500mm with IS.
I'm interested in improvements rather than updates of these three:
15 - 85mm efs to f4 non-variable aperture and maybe an extra mm or two
At the wide end and an extra 10-15 mm at the long end.
300mm f4 with improved IS and other updates.
400 mm f5.6 moved to 500mm with IS.
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1) 85mm f/1.2 L II - 85mm f/1.2 L III (BR)
2) 50mm f/1.4 USM - 50mm f/nooneknows IS USM
3) 180mm f/3.5 L - 200mm f/4 L IS macro
2) 50mm f/1.4 USM - 50mm f/nooneknows IS USM
3) 180mm f/3.5 L - 200mm f/4 L IS macro
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like to have something f/2.0 or faster with IS in the 85mm to 150mm range. (for performance shoots) so, 85, 100, 135 ??
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The 14 mm make it coma free and sharper at edges wide open, and make the wide open f 2.2 or 2.4. The larger aperture would allow exposures without star tracking.
400L 5.6 gets IS or better yet 400 moves to 500mm with IS.
28-300mmL gets sharpened and modern IS.
Make an extender that's compatible with more lenses like the 28-300 or make the lens compatible with current lenses.
400L 5.6 gets IS or better yet 400 moves to 500mm with IS.
28-300mmL gets sharpened and modern IS.
Make an extender that's compatible with more lenses like the 28-300 or make the lens compatible with current lenses.
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Larsskv said:
+ 1023
Make a 150mm Macro 2.8 IS rather than updating the 180mm Macro
70-200mm f/4 IS gets latest IS
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H. Jones said:
Have you used the Tamrom 28-300 at all? It's no L glass, but I was pleasantly surprised for what it is.
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I would like to see the following updated:
Canon 180 mm macro f2.8 with IS (so it works well with 1.4 x extender)
Canon 85 mm f1.2
Cheers,
John
Canon 180 mm macro f2.8 with IS (so it works well with 1.4 x extender)
Canon 85 mm f1.2
Cheers,
John
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neuroanatomist said:
Those are my three. I'd love a better 50/1.4 but not as big as Sigma's 50 Art.
The 17-55/2.8 should be an L-quality lens, as good as the 24-70/2.8L II, not the creaky current version. It does not need image stabilization. The IS on mine failed much too soon. It needs reliability.
The 85/1.8 should be better wide open. And with IS it would be a dream.
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