1Ds Mark IV Saga

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<p><strong>Where art thou 1Ds Mark IV?</strong>

I continue to receive mixed reports that it will show up before Photokina. Based on my experiences, I do not believe we’ll be seeing such a camera before Tuesday.</p>
<p><strong>Is this it?

<span style="font-weight: normal;">I’ve been told before that they were going to split camera related launched into 3 announcements,  It’s possible there will be another, but that’s pure speculation. The only camera I see obviously missing is a follow-up to the D10.</span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-weight: normal;">I’ll arrive in Cologne on Monday and maybe something good will be left on pillow at the hotel.</span></strong></p>
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olav

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A follow-up on the D10 would be nice, especially since the D10 has the problem that the lens is to fragile under rough conditions!
 
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Canon 14-24

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I'd second a D10 successor. IMO the only powershot worthwhile to get (given you already have a D-slr).
 
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Anastas

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I want Canon to release 3D body (fullframe 7D body).

If not, maybe I and other people can switch to Nikon.

There is no affordable FF body for sports and action photography! That's shame!
 
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Canon 14-24

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Anastas said:
I want Canon to release 3D body (fullframe 7D body).

There is no affordable FF body for sports and action photography! That's shame!
Would you consider a 3D like body at around $4000 affordable?
 
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Anastas

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Canon 14-24 said:
Anastas said:
I want Canon to release 3D body (fullframe 7D body).

There is no affordable FF body for sports and action photography! That's shame!
Would you consider a 3D like body at around $4000 affordable?
IS D700, $4000?
Such camera must be below $3000.

The doesn't matter, just fast FF camera with at least 6-7fps and good working AF!
 
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Bob Howland

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Anastas said:
Canon 14-24 said:
Anastas said:
I want Canon to release 3D body (fullframe 7D body).

There is no affordable FF body for sports and action photography! That's shame!
Would you consider a 3D like body at around $4000 affordable?
IS D700, $4000?
Such camera must be below $3000.

The doesn't matter, just fast FF camera with at least 6-7fps and good working AF!
With how many pixels? We're talking about Canon, who seem obsessed with stuffing too many pixels into too small a sensor. I want a low-light specialist as good as or better than the D3s. If that means I can only have 12MP, just like my 5D, then so be it. I won't refuse more pixels but not if it means any reduction in DR or increase in high ISO noise.
 

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What's sure by now is that if there is any more new Canon body to be released it won't be a 2000D, that would be laughingly anticlimactic after the 60D vs. D7K debacle.

Like I've said before, a 5D Mk.IIN should be an easy, no-brainer minor model change. Just stuff all the 7D goodies into the current 5D2 body.
 

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Mark D5 TEAM II said:
What's sure by now is that if there is any more new Canon body to be released it won't be a 2000D, that would be laughingly anticlimactic after the 60D vs. D7K debacle.

Like I've said before, a 5D Mk.IIN should be an easy, no-brainer minor model change. Just stuff all the 7D goodies into the current 5D2 body.
NEVER!
Because that would be major changes and make a 3D, and not a 5D MkIIN or MkIII

I'm 100% sure that the 5D series will never get more fps than the 1Ds series.
 

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I should have been more clear. All the features/button/design of the 7D aside from the FPS obviously, since the 1Ds line is still only 5FPS. There, that is so realistic and doable for an almost 2yr. old model.
 
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Bob Howland said:
Anastas said:
Canon 14-24 said:
Anastas said:
I want Canon to release 3D body (fullframe 7D body).

There is no affordable FF body for sports and action photography! That's shame!
Would you consider a 3D like body at around $4000 affordable?
IS D700, $4000?
Such camera must be below $3000.

The doesn't matter, just fast FF camera with at least 6-7fps and good working AF!
With how many pixels? We're talking about Canon, who seem obsessed with stuffing too many pixels into too small a sensor. I want a low-light specialist as good as or better than the D3s. If that means I can only have 12MP, just like my 5D, then so be it. I won't refuse more pixels but not if it means any reduction in DR or increase in high ISO noise.
D700 is two years old technology! From my experience with 1D Mark IV and the noise there, I'm sure that Canon now can make 21-24mp FF camera with noise equal or better to D700!
 

Stone

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Anastas said:
Canon 14-24 said:
Anastas said:
I want Canon to release 3D body (fullframe 7D body).

There is no affordable FF body for sports and action photography! That's shame!
Would you consider a 3D like body at around $4000 affordable?
IS D700, $4000?
Such camera must be below $3000.

The doesn't matter, just fast FF camera with at least 6-7fps and good working AF!
+1

A 3D MUST come in at the $3K price point because Nikon has already established the market, Canon does not get to redefine it. If they produce such a camera and try to charge $4K for it, people will just buy the D700 replacement. I know I will.......
 

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That assumes that there aren't any new features or other tangible benefits that would make it worth an extra $1K. Remember the EOS-3 was basically an EOS-1 with no vertical grip plus ECF. And only those 2 model lines are hyphenated ("EOS dash 1/EOS dash 3"), so those lines would always have something special that the lower non-hyphenated bodies will never have. In any case, a 5D3 would be, and should be, spec'ed and priced at below $3K. Sandwich the D700 successor on price and features.
 

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Stone said:
If they produce such a camera and try to charge $4K for it, people will just buy the D700 replacement. I know I will.......
I'd pay the extra $1K for the Canon body. I'd lose far more than $1K to convert thousands of $ worth of Canon lenses to the appropriate Nikon versions.
 
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Anastas said:
Bob Howland said:
Anastas said:
Canon 14-24 said:
Anastas said:
I want Canon to release 3D body (fullframe 7D body).

There is no affordable FF body for sports and action photography! That's shame!
Would you consider a 3D like body at around $4000 affordable?
IS D700, $4000?
Such camera must be below $3000.

The doesn't matter, just fast FF camera with at least 6-7fps and good working AF!
With how many pixels? We're talking about Canon, who seem obsessed with stuffing too many pixels into too small a sensor. I want a low-light specialist as good as or better than the D3s. If that means I can only have 12MP, just like my 5D, then so be it. I won't refuse more pixels but not if it means any reduction in DR or increase in high ISO noise.
D700 is two years old technology! From my experience with 1D Mark IV and the noise there, I'm sure that Canon now can make 21-24mp FF camera with noise equal or better to D700!
I said D3s, not D700. I also said as good as or better than. From the examples I've seen from the 1DMkIV, it is arguably as good as the D700, but not nearly as good as the D3s. In particular, the 102K is a pathetic joke.
 

Stone

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neuroanatomist said:
Stone said:
If they produce such a camera and try to charge $4K for it, people will just buy the D700 replacement. I know I will.......
I'd pay the extra $1K for the Canon body. I'd lose far more than $1K to convert thousands of $ worth of Canon lenses to the appropriate Nikon versions.
Then it would make perfect sense for you to pay the extra $1K. Since I currently shoot a crop body with all EF-S lenses, I'll be upgrading all of my glass either way when I move to FF. This is why I'm being overly critical of Canon, I'll keep my next body for several years so I won't be skimping on the specs.
 

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everyone's going to have a different take on it.

stone, I can see where you're coming from and I agree that there's no reason not to look at the Nikon system once you upgrade to FF.

it isn't reasonable to assume everyone will make that decision, as different people have different priorities. for someone shooting architecture and landscapes, Nikon's AF system means little to me as I only actually ever use the one center AF point. the FPS also doesn't matter, since I've long outgrown trying to shoot HDR brackets handheld (and for that matter, autobracketing isn't important either). however, the 140g difference in weight and 9 MP difference in image size do matter to me.

I'm not sure where the $4000 price tag came from; you can wildly speculate about price all you want but until it comes from Canon it's quite meaningless. I can't imagine a 5D Mark III would suddenly veer upwards with a 30% or 50% increase in MSRP over the 5D Mark II. it could certainly be in the $3000-3500 range, which I think would be acceptable if they shoved the 7D's AF system into it and made some other updates