Make the 3D with the sensor & AF from the merged 1D line, no video, 5D size body, and a <$3500 price tag, and I'd take one.
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3D (Again) & 5D Mark III (CR1)
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Wow. With that much money, you could buy enough Canon stock to have influence with management.
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The more I think about it, the more I think the 3D is going to happen. People are screaming out for a full-frame 7D equivalent - rugged, compact, weather sealed, with better AF. (OK I am - hopefully others are too!). An outdoor/landscape shooter's dream, for those who can't afford or don't want medium-format digital.
If they made the 5DIII like that it would do two things:
1) push the price right up for that model
2) cannibalize sales from the 1D line
So the market is ripe now for a model that sits in-between the 5D and the 1D lines. There's a big hole in their lineup that they currently aren't filling.
The 5DIII will be the cheapest full-frame offering. The new version will bring more megapixels and better AF from the 7D but not much else, except for perhaps newer video-specific features. It will compete aggressively on price.
The 3D will basically be a full-frame 7D. It won't have integrated vertical grip. It might even borrow some other features from the 1D line but not enough to cannibalize it, but will be a price premium above the 5DmarkIII line, the same way the 7D is at a premium above the 60D. Shutter speeds will definitely be held back as this is a 1D feature - expect a single Digic V for the 3D.
The 1D and 1Ds series will merge together into a fast-shooting, fully-featured, top of the line model - everything we have now but with more Megapixels and the updated interface from dual Digic V. What Canon will do with this camera is enable a toggle to go into 1.3x crop mode, discarding the outer-most pixels which will allow a faster shutter speed, so you'll have a 1D and 1Ds all in one.
Thus we'll end up with a nice matrix of cameras:
Rebel / 60D / 7D for crop sensor
5DmarkIII / 3D / 1DmarkV for full frame
I'll be going for the 3D for sure - maybe upgrade both of my 5DII's to them. Bring it Canon!
If they made the 5DIII like that it would do two things:
1) push the price right up for that model
2) cannibalize sales from the 1D line
So the market is ripe now for a model that sits in-between the 5D and the 1D lines. There's a big hole in their lineup that they currently aren't filling.
The 5DIII will be the cheapest full-frame offering. The new version will bring more megapixels and better AF from the 7D but not much else, except for perhaps newer video-specific features. It will compete aggressively on price.
The 3D will basically be a full-frame 7D. It won't have integrated vertical grip. It might even borrow some other features from the 1D line but not enough to cannibalize it, but will be a price premium above the 5DmarkIII line, the same way the 7D is at a premium above the 60D. Shutter speeds will definitely be held back as this is a 1D feature - expect a single Digic V for the 3D.
The 1D and 1Ds series will merge together into a fast-shooting, fully-featured, top of the line model - everything we have now but with more Megapixels and the updated interface from dual Digic V. What Canon will do with this camera is enable a toggle to go into 1.3x crop mode, discarding the outer-most pixels which will allow a faster shutter speed, so you'll have a 1D and 1Ds all in one.
Thus we'll end up with a nice matrix of cameras:
Rebel / 60D / 7D for crop sensor
5DmarkIII / 3D / 1DmarkV for full frame
I'll be going for the 3D for sure - maybe upgrade both of my 5DII's to them. Bring it Canon!
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This guy (/ group) who constantly makes up rumors about a EOS 3D for so many years really has a fetish. Please, some creativity!
For example, call it a 2D! It's gonna shoot 2D images anyway... right? Or let's go fractal (since it shoots moving images), call a 2.5D!
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Just to throw in something i noticed earlier today re the 3D...
Was looking at some Wildlife photo winners on the Dailymail website (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2001152/Wildlife-photography-award-winners-Gorilla-makes-friends-duckling.html?ITO=1490) and noticed that the Youth Photographer winner (Eric Coomes) took his shot of a polar bear with a "Canon 3D; 28-300mm L IS lens at 235mm; 1/1600 sec at /13; ISO 500; hand-held"
Make of that what you will, might be a typo, but then again, might not!
Was looking at some Wildlife photo winners on the Dailymail website (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2001152/Wildlife-photography-award-winners-Gorilla-makes-friends-duckling.html?ITO=1490) and noticed that the Youth Photographer winner (Eric Coomes) took his shot of a polar bear with a "Canon 3D; 28-300mm L IS lens at 235mm; 1/1600 sec at /13; ISO 500; hand-held"
Make of that what you will, might be a typo, but then again, might not!
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Two things are definite:
1. Canon will not release a camera called 3D, unless it shoots 3d pics. It would be insane to do so. Many have pointed this out, and they are right.
2. Despite the fervent wishes of some, every Canon DSLR released in the future will support video.
1. Canon will not release a camera called 3D, unless it shoots 3d pics. It would be insane to do so. Many have pointed this out, and they are right.
2. Despite the fervent wishes of some, every Canon DSLR released in the future will support video.
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I think this is right, but it doesn't matter what they call it. The camera needs to emerge, whether it emerges as a 5D successor and both 5Ds co-exist, or it comes out as a 3D, 2D, 4D, or whatever and coexists with the 5D2 for awhile, until perhaps a 5D3 upgrade emerges, or doesn't.
This is the next hot seller for Canon. They just have to figure out their strategy. This fall please. It's time.
This is the next hot seller for Canon. They just have to figure out their strategy. This fall please. It's time.
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neuroanatomist said:terryh2c said:
Here in the US, at least, the major retailers sell out as soon as they get new stock in. That would seem to indicate that the 5DII is still a strong seller, meaning less incentive for Canon to update the line.
Enjoy the new wheels...
Less incentive to upupdate the line, perhaps, but doesn't mean that a higher model wouldn't sneak above it.
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24 MP
30+ pt af
8 fps
dual digic V
dual card slots
weather sealed
~$3.5K - $4K and I'd buy 2
It could be more sports/wildlife oriented than the new 5D which could remain the slow, entry level FF that people expect. That leaves plenty of features left over for a flagship 1 series body with 10fps, integrated grip, 1.3 crop mode and a gazillion megapixels.....
24 MP
30+ pt af
8 fps
dual digic V
dual card slots
weather sealed
~$3.5K - $4K and I'd buy 2
It could be more sports/wildlife oriented than the new 5D which could remain the slow, entry level FF that people expect. That leaves plenty of features left over for a flagship 1 series body with 10fps, integrated grip, 1.3 crop mode and a gazillion megapixels.....
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jouster said:
yes, yes they are right. It's a bit far fetched, but can't we dream of a DSLR 3D(imensional) camera?
Nothing like those old Soviet 3d cameras on 120 film, that would be nice but way too bulky. Maybe if we buy two, we can join them together, get 2 exactly the same prime lenses and take 3D photos? (even using zooms would be possible, get them both 'about right' and let software line up the details and crop to the right area)
ok, so the market for this would be tiny, or would it? i would definitely file it under one of those expensive advertising stunts of top-end products that inspire lower-end sales. Sigh, dreams...
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