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5D Split? 5D X & 5D Mark III [CR1]
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Re: 5D Split? 5D X & 5D Mark III [CR1]
that's as old as the street and fake as hell :Radeusz said:
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when i looked at this post i saw two cameras that look "incomplete". 5dx seems to have insufficient iso range, so noiseless night shots will become even harder to get, and the 5d3 seems to have great video, great af system, great iso range BUT with much less resolution. Therefore my conclusion is that the 5dx MUST get higher iso range if canon wants this model competitive.
when i looked at this post i saw two cameras that look "incomplete". 5dx seems to have insufficient iso range, so noiseless night shots will become even harder to get, and the 5d3 seems to have great video, great af system, great iso range BUT with much less resolution. Therefore my conclusion is that the 5dx MUST get higher iso range if canon wants this model competitive.
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What I don't get is, with the 1D X brand being marketed as "highest quality ISO, fast shooting speeds, lower pixel count, best video" the split mentioned here (of course it's a CR1) has the 1D X like camera getting a 5D III moniker, while the slower-shooting, high MP camera gets the X name...it seems inconsistent to me.
Something tells me this might just be an attempt to put names to two prototypes out there in the field, and nothing to do with the names we'll end up seeing in shipping units.
What I don't get is, with the 1D X brand being marketed as "highest quality ISO, fast shooting speeds, lower pixel count, best video" the split mentioned here (of course it's a CR1) has the 1D X like camera getting a 5D III moniker, while the slower-shooting, high MP camera gets the X name...it seems inconsistent to me.
Something tells me this might just be an attempt to put names to two prototypes out there in the field, and nothing to do with the names we'll end up seeing in shipping units.
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POOMA:
If they do that they will be repeating the D700, which I doubt they will. They will also be cannibalizing the 7D, I think.
Making a cheaper almost as good as the 1D X 5D is, well, I dunno, not clever. But then again, if you need the 1D X you'll probably get, on the other hand, with a bad economy many might actually get a 5D instead of forgoing an upgrade all together, because the 1D X is too expensive. Maybe it's really clever... ?!?!
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POOMA:
If they do that they will be repeating the D700, which I doubt they will. They will also be cannibalizing the 7D, I think.
Making a cheaper almost as good as the 1D X 5D is, well, I dunno, not clever. But then again, if you need the 1D X you'll probably get, on the other hand, with a bad economy many might actually get a 5D instead of forgoing an upgrade all together, because the 1D X is too expensive. Maybe it's really clever... ?!?!
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if they were to split the 5d line, i actually wouldnt be terribly surprised, but certainly do not expect the naming scheme to be 5dmk3 and 5dx...
i think it makes more sense to have 1 version of the top of the line pro dslr and >1 versions of semi-pro FF bodies...
if they were to split the 5d line, i actually wouldnt be terribly surprised, but certainly do not expect the naming scheme to be 5dmk3 and 5dx...
i think it makes more sense to have 1 version of the top of the line pro dslr and >1 versions of semi-pro FF bodies...
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Is it? It wold be about the density of 7d sensor and as far it works in 7d some way...
Is it? It wold be about the density of 7d sensor and as far it works in 7d some way...
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sounds good apart from the price.. i think the lowest MP should be under 3k
sounds good apart from the price.. i think the lowest MP should be under 3k
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Re: 5D Split? 5D X & 5D Mark III [CR1]
And then of course...
Canon could have deliberately leaked this rumour as a sounding board.
We know they read these forums, what better way to find out the thoughts of potential customers. Then they can say
"we listened to what our customer base wanted..."
This sort of site is, after all, a 2 way street. Both Canon and CR get a benefit from working together like this.
And then of course...
Canon could have deliberately leaked this rumour as a sounding board.
We know they read these forums, what better way to find out the thoughts of potential customers. Then they can say
"we listened to what our customer base wanted..."
This sort of site is, after all, a 2 way street. Both Canon and CR get a benefit from working together like this.
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Considering that a split like this has been discussed here for a while, I am just wondering if this is anything more than a rumour circle - somebody read it here, sent the rumour to NL, and then it found its way back here.
Having said that, I would not object to it being true - I would jump on the "22MP, High-ISO, improved AF" camera in an instant.
I do, however, find it rather unlikely that the two cameras would have the same AF system, but....this is just a CR1 rumour after all, so I am not taking it too seriously.
There seems to be a fairly reliable indication that Canon will be offering a video-oriented EOS camera this year, and quite frankly I find it very unlikely that they will be introducing 3 new ones, so "if" there is a split and we get two different successors to the 5D2, one of them would have to be the "video-oriented" one.
So, shat is more likely - a 40+MP camera with decent video and a 22MP one with top-notch video (as this rumour states) OR a 40+MP camera with top-notch video and a 22MP one with decent video? I'm not 100% certain, but I am certain someone can give a good technical explanation on why one case must be more feasible than the other.
Considering that a split like this has been discussed here for a while, I am just wondering if this is anything more than a rumour circle - somebody read it here, sent the rumour to NL, and then it found its way back here.
Having said that, I would not object to it being true - I would jump on the "22MP, High-ISO, improved AF" camera in an instant.
I do, however, find it rather unlikely that the two cameras would have the same AF system, but....this is just a CR1 rumour after all, so I am not taking it too seriously.
There seems to be a fairly reliable indication that Canon will be offering a video-oriented EOS camera this year, and quite frankly I find it very unlikely that they will be introducing 3 new ones, so "if" there is a split and we get two different successors to the 5D2, one of them would have to be the "video-oriented" one.
So, shat is more likely - a 40+MP camera with decent video and a 22MP one with top-notch video (as this rumour states) OR a 40+MP camera with top-notch video and a 22MP one with decent video? I'm not 100% certain, but I am certain someone can give a good technical explanation on why one case must be more feasible than the other.
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I think this rumor deserves a CR of 0
The only thing that seems to make sense is the rumor of 2 cameras in the works. A studio higher megapixel (hopefully no more AA filter), and probably the 5DX since the x seems to be the new marketing letter they are using for all the new models coming out around the same time.
I think this rumor deserves a CR of 0
The only thing that seems to make sense is the rumor of 2 cameras in the works. A studio higher megapixel (hopefully no more AA filter), and probably the 5DX since the x seems to be the new marketing letter they are using for all the new models coming out around the same time.
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People seem to be making much of 'why would they use 1DX AF on lower priced models?
The answer has also been given time and again.
Cost.
No R&D required to improve the 5D2 AF, no R&D to port the 7D AF.
Just put it straight in to the new body. So, manufacturing costs go through the floor, R&D save a huge fortune on development, and the undeciders will now be choosing the stunning Canon AF over the Nikon AF.
7D brigade will get their upgrade in a stroke, 5D2 brigade will get all of their upgrade options in a stroke, and Canon will be able to generate extra revenue by seeing togs own 3 bodies instead of 2.
Why 3 instead of 2? Well, let's suppose you're a wedding tog. You will have two of the 22mp bodies (bread and butter cameras), but would still like the benefits of 45mp for those large group shots or lovely double page panoramic shots you see in the albums/ books. So, instead of just 2 bodies, you now own 3, and you've bought them for not much more than a 1DX - great value.
Canon make extra profit, you get extra value - and those wanting the more robust weather sealed all singing all dancing will still go for the 1DX.
This option, if true, would be a win win for Canon and its customers - new or old.
People seem to be making much of 'why would they use 1DX AF on lower priced models?
The answer has also been given time and again.
Cost.
No R&D required to improve the 5D2 AF, no R&D to port the 7D AF.
Just put it straight in to the new body. So, manufacturing costs go through the floor, R&D save a huge fortune on development, and the undeciders will now be choosing the stunning Canon AF over the Nikon AF.
7D brigade will get their upgrade in a stroke, 5D2 brigade will get all of their upgrade options in a stroke, and Canon will be able to generate extra revenue by seeing togs own 3 bodies instead of 2.
Why 3 instead of 2? Well, let's suppose you're a wedding tog. You will have two of the 22mp bodies (bread and butter cameras), but would still like the benefits of 45mp for those large group shots or lovely double page panoramic shots you see in the albums/ books. So, instead of just 2 bodies, you now own 3, and you've bought them for not much more than a 1DX - great value.
Canon make extra profit, you get extra value - and those wanting the more robust weather sealed all singing all dancing will still go for the 1DX.
This option, if true, would be a win win for Canon and its customers - new or old.
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Re: 5D Split? 5D X & 5D Mark III [CR1]
Man, these sure are thirsty times with all this salt… ;D
well_dunno said:this rumor is taken with a very large grain of salt...
Man, these sure are thirsty times with all this salt… ;D
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