60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

[bobthebrick]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

I also have a (2) 30mb/s SD card. 30mb/s is class 10, 10mb/s would be i think class 4. 30mb/s = about 240x

 

[ELK]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

No worries if you already bought the camera. You likely didn't miss out on a discount. Dealers are notorious about raising prices at rebate time. The claim is that Canon makes them do it.

Prior to the last rebate at Christmastime the 7D body-only was $1499USD. Rebate time jacked the price to $1699 and then the $100 rebate brought the price back down to $1599, a higher price than the pre-rebate one. Once the rebate ended, the price went all the way down to $1469.

I've found that LENS rebates are actually true rebates....

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If what you said is true, then that means when Canon does a rebate, less people will buy the camera as the price will be more. Therefore, Canon would anticipate overall less sales with the rebate. So if that was true, then Canon would deter potential sales by releasing the rebate. Why would they want to halt sales?

In the worst case scenario, they (being the retailers) keep the price the same and simply keep the entire rebate for themselves. But it makes no sense whatsoever that they would RAISE the price, because they'll be shooting themselves in the foot.

What CameraAddict says IS TRUE, I monitored the prices too, so that was absolutely the scenario he describes. So a comment like "it doen't make much sense", doesn't make much sense at all! sorry for pun

 

[xstrm]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

No worries if you already bought the camera. You likely didn't miss out on a discount. Dealers are notorious about raising prices at rebate time. The claim is that Canon makes them do it.

Prior to the last rebate at Christmastime the 7D body-only was $1499USD. Rebate time jacked the price to $1699 and then the $100 rebate brought the price back down to $1599, a higher price than the pre-rebate one. Once the rebate ended, the price went all the way down to $1469.

I've found that LENS rebates are actually true rebates....

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If what you said is true, then that means when Canon does a rebate, less people will buy the camera as the price will be more. Therefore, Canon would anticipate overall less sales with the rebate. So if that was true, then Canon would deter potential sales by releasing the rebate. Why would they want to halt sales?

In the worst case scenario, they (being the retailers) keep the price the same and simply keep the entire rebate for themselves. But it makes no sense whatsoever that they would RAISE the price, because they'll be shooting themselves in the foot.

What CameraAddict says IS TRUE, I monitored the prices too, so that was absolutely the scenario he describes. So a comment like "it doen't make much sense", doesn't make much sense at all! sorry for pun

Funny on Amazon, the $1453 price is sold out and on back order now, and looks like the new pricing for body is $1529. seems to be following the trend of going up. Well we're less than a week away to find out the price minus rebate. should be intersting.

 

[bvukich]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

10mb/s isn't the fastest SD card. I have a 30mb/S SD card.

Watch your units. 10Mb/s is not equal to 10MB/sec.

30mb/s is approximately equal to 3MB/s which is class 3.

 

[bvukich]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Speed_Class_Rating

 

[rnadoc]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

I have been following 7D prices as well. Amazon's price has jumped but it is now from another seller. There have been several different sellers from Amazon in the last month and the price has jumped around a bit. Currently sold by Calumet. One of the kits is sold directly by amazon and another is sold by Samy's Camera and doesn't even qualify for Prime.

BH, however, has maintained the same price $1479.

We will see what happens as the week goes on.

 

[unfocused]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

I meant to post this earlier, but will do so now.

I think one thing to look at is the price on the Canon USA site, which currently lists the 7D at $1,699. To me, that indicates that Adorama and B&H have about $220 (from the current $1,479 that they are selling the 7D at) to play with when rebates get announced. They can raise their prices up to the manufacturers suggested retail price, but they probably won't (maybe can't) raise their prices above what Canon sets as the retail price.

It's no guarantee that they will raise their prices up to the full MSRP and they may not raise them at all, but if Canon offers a $100 rebate, they can raise the price by $100 and still be more than $100 under the official retail price.

For comparison purposes, both Adorama and B&H are selling the 60D for $888, instead of the $999 Canon sets as the official price. In contrast, both are charging the full retail price for the T3i. ($899 with kit lens).

I'm not going to risk giving anyone bad advice, but just suggest this is something to think about. (Well, I might give potential T3i buyers this advice: I don't think you have much to lose by waiting to see what the rebates are, since I can't imagine Canon is going to raise their own MSRP when the rebates go into effect.)

 

[Loswr]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

10mb/s isn't the fastest SD card. I have a 30mb/S SD card.

Watch your units. 10Mb/s is not equal to 10MB/sec.

30mb/s is approximately equal to 3MB/s which is class 3.

The current SanDisk Extreme SDHC cards are rated at 30 MB/s (that's big-B Bytes, not little-b bits!). That's the same as the (discontinued) SanDisk Extreme III CF cards.

SanDisk has also just launched a new Extreme Pro SDHC card with a rating of 45 MB/s. That's the same rating as the (also discontinued) SanDisk Extreme IV CF cards.

So, while it's true that the fastest SDHC cards don't quite reach 60 MB/s UDMA speeds, they are half as fast the Extreme Pro 90MB/s UDMA6 CF cards. If you really crave speed and storage, consider the new 100 MB/s UDMA7 card from SanDisk...of course, you would spend less on a new 7D...

 

[niko]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

10mb/s isn't the fastest SD card. I have a 30mb/S SD card.

Watch your units. 10Mb/s is not equal to 10MB/sec.

30mb/s is approximately equal to 3MB/s which is class 3.

The current SanDisk Extreme SDHC cards are rated at 30 MB/s (that's big-B Bytes, not little-b bits!). That's the same as the (discontinued) SanDisk Extreme III CF cards.

SanDisk has also just launched a new Extreme Pro SDHC card with a rating of 45 MB/s. That's the same rating as the (also discontinued) SanDisk Extreme IV CF cards.

So, while it's true that the fastest SDHC cards don't quite reach 60 MB/s UDMA speeds, they are half as fast the Extreme Pro 90MB/s UDMA6 CF cards. If you really crave speed and storage, consider the new 100 MB/s UDMA7 card from SanDisk...of course, you would spend less on a new 7D...

Tranfer rates are determined by the weakest component in the path and I do not believe that the camera tech/hardware is able to push data at those rates (yet and probably intentional). This greatly diminshes the memory card rating importance as the specified transfer rated are not (and probably never will be) achieved in actual usage. There is probably not that much difference in use between a mid level and a high level card (say 60 and 100 MB/s)

Also the manufacturers tend to exagurate (a little) and actual vs. theoretical in real world scenarios are (quite) different.

 

[Admin US West]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

Tranfer rates are determined by the weakest component in the path and I do not believe that the camera tech/hardware is able to push data at those rates (yet and probably intentional). This greatly diminshes the memory card rating importance as the specified transfer rated are not (and probably never will be) achieved in actual usage. There is probably not that much difference in use between a mid level and a high level card (say 60 and 100 MB/s)

Also the manufacturers tend to exagurate (a little) and actual vs. theoretical in real world scenarios are (quite) different.

Some real world testing here.

The fastest camera / memory combination I saw during a quicl look was the Sony A=900 at 35.5 MB/sec. Thats pretty fast. The Canon 5D MK II manages 32.6 MB/sec. He did not test any cameras with SD memory.

For flash memory, CF card to computer transfers were tested 97.3 MB/sec with the fastest reader and cards.

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/reader_report_multi_page.asp?cid=6007-9392

SD memory doesn't really come close, with about 25 MB/sec being the fastest card to computer.

 

[gavinjackson]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

Do you think they're doing rebates to clear out the stock because a new camera is on the horizon? Is there a history of rebate timing and new announcements?

 

[Admin US West]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

They were in the fall rebates as well. it probably has more to do with nikon rebates and the need to match them.

The 60d is a new model, and 7D is not that old. They won't be replaced this year.

 

[Kuscali]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

Will these rebates apply to refurbished products as well?

 

[Macadameane]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

They were in the fall rebates as well. it probably has more to do with nikon rebates and the need to match them.

The 60d is a new model, and 7D is not that old. They won't be replaced this year.

Agreed, the 7D isn't that old. I think it's funny, many posters saying "I don't to get a 7D because its getting dated"

 

[EYEONE]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

They were in the fall rebates as well. it probably has more to do with nikon rebates and the need to match them.

The 60d is a new model, and 7D is not that old. They won't be replaced this year.

Agreed, the 7D isn't that old. I think it's funny, many posters saying "I don't to get a 7D because its getting dated"

That is funny. I've seen pros that still use 5D1's as their main body.
But, not only is the 7D not very old it seems to be aging very well.

 

[kubelik]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

Do you think they're doing rebates to clear out the stock because a new camera is on the horizon? Is there a history of rebate timing and new announcements?

there's a history of rebates twice a year, every year. don't jump to conclusions about it

 

[Admin US West]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

Canon has rebates, late spring and late fall. This seems to be one of the short term in-between rebates. Probably to soften the recent increase in lens pricing.

 

[Tristan944]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

Well we should find out tonight at 9pm or 12am PST if the rebate is actually happening and if the dealers are going to keep prices the same or raise them. I sure hope they keep them the same so the $200 7D rebate will actually save $200.

 

[SRHelicity]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

Well we should find out tonight at 9pm or 12am PST if the rebate is actually happening and if the dealers are going to keep prices the same or raise them. I sure hope they keep them the same so the $200 7D rebate will actually save $200.

A Facebook post from an hour ago by "Action Camera" in California notes: "Canon rebates are on now on the 60D, 7D, and several lenses....come in and check them out!" A Google Shopping search reveals that there are a few ~$845-$860 prices to be had, which seems to be a drop of about $40 from earlier today. I'm not sure if this reflects the "instant rebate", since only mail-in rebates have been in effect when I've bought camera equipment. I suppose we'll know soon now, regardless.

 

[Tristan944]

Re: 60D & 7D Rebates coming February 20

Alright brethren heres the proof! Its real!!!

http://www.actioncamera.com/promotions/feb20-mar19.pdf