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A Loose Roadmap [CR1]

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<p><strong>What’s coming in 2012

</strong>Received some info about a “loose roadmap” for Canon in 2012.</p>
<p>Two things were noted about 2012.</p>
<ol>
<li>It’s the 25th anniversary of EOS</li>
<li>It’s an Olympic year as well as Euro 2012.</li>
</ol>
<p>We will see a DSLR that will be showing for CES/PMA in the 2nd week of January 2012. When the announcement for the camera would be was unknown.</p>
<p>A new 1Ds would follow sometime in February.</p>
<p>Photokina would bring about a 5D Mark II replacement as well as a 7D replacement.</p>
<p><strong>Lenses

</strong>All that was said is Canon is concerned about getting production up and then they’ll start announcing lenses. The next round of lenses would be “higher end short focal lengths”.</p>
<p>It was also noted that a lot of existing lenses are on the upgrade schedule, though none were listed.</p>
<p>It was stressed that roadmaps are extremely loose within Canon, and stuff is announced when it’s done. It was noted the trade show schedule isn’t as important as it used to be, though they still want to be talked about at both CES and Photokina.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>
 
I Wonder if Canon will wait that long for a 5D release...
If I were canon I would release the 5D asap, the 1D next year before the Olypmics and the 70D at the photokina, and the 7D at Christmas (2012) or later...

The 600D definetley will get a successor in next year and the 60D probably too... So 2012 will be a VERY VERY interesting year for Canon SLRs since we may see releases of Canons complete SLR lineup.

bornshooter said:
let say a dslr is announced on the 26th do you think it will be available for xmas?

Probably not 2011 ;)
 
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Canon Rumors said:
All that was said is Canon is concerned about getting production up and then they’ll start announcing lenses. The next round of lenses would be “higher end short focal lengths”.

As the 24mm f/1.4 L was upgraded in 2008 & the 14mm f/2.8 L in 2007, I guess this might mean the 35mm f/1.4L, and possibly new 20mm L & 28mm L.

Personally, I'm not going to buy any of those. If Canon upgraded the 35mm f/2 & the 24mm f/2.8, I might very well buy both.
 
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No way this is ever going to happen.

Canon will NOT launch 3 pro grade camera's within a years time.
They have never done so and they will never do.

I start to think that Mr Canon Rumors has no idea about how a camera manufacturer works.
Up until now Mr CanonRumors has never had it right until 1 meaby 2 days before anouncement this is very much in contradiction with NikonRumors where things have been leaked out month before.

I sometimes even wonder why I bother to read this anyway... probably just for the funfactor.
 
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Dave said:
A new 50mm 1,4 (with a real USM) would be quite nice...

+1,000,000! :D

The 50mm f/1.4 is one the older lenses in Canon's lineup and, yes, the micro USM really needs to go (had mine repaired last summer). I'm also hoping, as with most of the updated lenses released in the past few years, that it gets a shorter MFD. The 28mm f/1.8 and 85mm f/1.8 are of similar ages (all three are in the 1992-1995 range), but at least they have ring USM and better build quality.

The 35mm f/1.4L is the most likely candidate, as all of the other sub-telephoto "L" primes have already been replaced/updated. The long-rumored update to the 24-70mm f/2.8L is another possibility.

As for the non-USM EF lenses (35mm f/2, 24mm f/2.8, etc.), I don't see them getting updated anytime soon. They certainly don't qualify as “higher end short focal lengths," as the posted rumor states.
 
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Polansky said:
I start to think that Mr Canon Rumors has no idea about how a camera manufacturer works.

That's why it's CR1. :)

I doubt the 7D will get an update UNLESS the 600D replacement has a radical design. In terms of image quality, it still rules over the Sony A77 and Nikon D300s.

Polansky said:
Up until now Mr CanonRumors has never had it right until 1 meaby 2 days before anouncement this is very much in contradiction with NikonRumors where things have been leaked out month before.

I sometimes wonder about that too. Does this also mean Canon does a better job in keeping their secrets? :)
 
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Why would you release it ASAP? If the camera is still selling well they will not release a new one. Canon is in the business to make money, and releasing a new product costs lots of money. Not only that, but it gets cheaper and cheaper the longer you make a product. You learn how to make them more efficiently and you get lower costs from suppliers.

Believe me, I want a 5Diii as much as anyone, but Canon is not going to release a new one until sales of the current one begin to slip below acceptable levels.

Dave said:
I Wonder if Canon will wait that long for a 5D release...
If I were canon I would release the 5D asap, the 1D next year before the Olypmics and the 70D at the photokina, and the 7D at Christmas (2012) or later...

The 600D definetley will get a successor in next year and the 60D probably too... So 2012 will be a VERY VERY interesting year for Canon SLRs since we may see releases of Canons complete SLR lineup.

bornshooter said:
let say a dslr is announced on the 26th do you think it will be available for xmas?

Probably not 2011 ;)
 
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The most logical thing to do is release a 1Ds replacement.. I mean, really.. it's time to retire Digic 3.. It wouldn't make sense to continue it just for the 1DsIII and there has to be a pro camera Digic 5 before they release a 650D with a digic 5.. at least that's what it looks like when you see how they've released their cameras relative to their digic chips.. It would probably kill the 60D (and seriously hurt the 7D) if the 650D is superior in IQ (unless they heavily cripple it). Or they might release a 650D with a Digic 4...
 
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Hmmm.... Higher end short focal length, that could be zoom or primes, so, by dates

Wishful thinking perhaps, but with the idea of an entry level FF camera body...
1990 - 35mm non L (very old, wild card make f1.8, add USM, make entry level L - £400 ? - 2013 ?)
1992 - 24mm non L (very old, wild card make f2.0, make 24mm entry level L - £400 ? - 2013 ?)
1993 - 50mm non L (very old, wild card add USM, make entry level L - £400 ? - 2013 ? )
- of course the 85mm, 100mm, 135mm & 200mm primes are all getting on a tad and could do with a refresh, perhaps IS on the longer focal lengths ?

Back in reality land....
1998 - 35mm (extremely likely replacement - move to 77mm filter diameter ? - 2012 lens for sure)
2002 - 24-70mm (very likely replacement at the same focal length - IS 25% likely, waterproof perhaps ? - 2012 lens for sure)
2003 - 17-40mm (random idea - 15-40mm, fits with 8-15mm fisheye focal length - 2013/14)
2005 - 24-105mm (quite likely - upgrade to make waterproof ? - 2013/14)
2007 - 16-35mm (possible 14-24mm - 2012 lens probably)
2007 - 14mm (replacement not likely)
2008 - 24mm (replacement not likely)

Whilst not shorter length, the 45mm and 90mm tilt shift lens are also likely at some point in the next few years
 
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I don't get why you would increase the filter size of the 35L to 77mm... All the shorter focal range primes are 72mm threads..

If you made a 135 f1.8 though.. now that would need a 77mm filter.. mmm

Even though I would love a 5DIII.. the truth is that it really doesn't have a competitor right now, things might change next year with sony being so aggressive, yet it makes sense for a 1Ds4 to be alone for most of the year.
 
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"Two things were noted about 2012.
1.It’s the 25th anniversary of EOS
2.It’s an Olympic year as well as Euro 2012."


25th Anniversary of EOS in 2012 ?

Why hasn't that been mentioned before ?
How did so many people, including myself, miss that ?
That could be the missing clue to understanding the
puzzle that is Canon's release schedule.

Being the world's largest camera manufacturer means
that they've mastered marketing, and how can Canon let
such an opportunity pass by. Naturally they're holding
back product to make a big splash in the 25th year of EOS.

At the very least we'll see 1987 - 2012 and 25 Years
mentioned in all their print and electronic advertising.
Are we going to see badges of such on camera bodies ?
(I hope not)

So, it then makes sense that they'll wait until 2012 to
announce their entry into the mirrorless sweepstakes.
The same goes for all their single digit camera models,
and probably the XXD line, and because it's such a
special year we'll see a long awaited, new lens, or two,
and the expected updates of current lenses. And how
about a 580EX III. Canon's flashes are lagging behind
Nikon's.

I can't imagine that Canon will let Christmas come and go
without offering up another warmed over XXXD or XXXXD
model, but that is the market that is more likely to go for
a 25th Anniversary badged body, and perhaps pay extra for it.
Maybe they'll wait on that, or go ahead and release it early.
 
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Polansky said:
No way this is ever going to happen.

Canon will NOT launch 3 pro grade camera's within a years time.
They have never done so and they will never do.

I start to think that Mr Canon Rumors has no idea about how a camera manufacturer works.
Up until now Mr CanonRumors has never had it right until 1 meaby 2 days before anouncement this is very much in contradiction with NikonRumors where things have been leaked out month before.

I sometimes even wonder why I bother to read this anyway... probably just for the funfactor.



I generally don't respond to stuff like this. Im fine with the critique.

However I want to clarify a couple of things

1 I had the first mention of a 7d almost 6 months before announcement
2 I was the first to post the 5d2 would match the 1ds in resolution and was crucified
3 I had the 1d4 specced over a month before it was announced
4 the 60d was shown almost a month before launch.

There are other examples.

However, Canon hasn't really announced a lot of dslrs in the last 24 months.

I also mentioned in a previous thread I thought we'd only see 3 new dslrs in 2012.

Everyone wants to see new cameras, me included.

Yes, I've been wrong lots, but I only post what has been told to me. Just be thankful I do t post it all!

Enjoy your weekend.

Cheers
 
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Thoughts from the abyss.

You'll see 3 DSLR full frame bodies by this time next year.
The 1 series will be consolidated into one system/body.
There will be one full frame camera within the next 3 months.
It may be jointly announced with the video cameras this Fall.
There will be another announced March-ish, unless they push it up.
They will be in two separate price points and will not really compete with each other.
They could potentially announce both at the same time.
There will also be two large sensor "camcorders" to top out their video line up very soon.
Like 30 days or so soon.
Expect new lenses focused on video in the coming months. Including f/1.8 or f/2 zooms at a high price point.

Lenses. Updated 24-70mm f/2.8L perhaps with IS coming. There was a 24-135mm f/4L IS that never saw the light of day several years ago, but I think this became the 24-105mm f/4L IS. Also a 100mm f/1.8L IS, but due to the macro lens popularity we may never see it. The longer super telephoto primes and zoom have been announced. The 20mm f/2.8 could be updated "any day" to a f/2, f/1.8, or a remarkable f/1.4. This hasn't been a high priority for them, but could cost in the $700-$1100 world if fast enough. Canon hasn't made an 18mm prime and that could happen at f/2.8 or more likely as f/3.5 like many others to fill out there line up. There is room in the price points to have something land cheaper than the 17mm f/4L T/S. Also to note, there isn't a 75mm prime as that length hasn't been very popular among shooters, but there is likely an f/2 or f/1.8 prototype floating around. The 35mm f/1.4L could get updated and I can see Canon going the f/1.2 route with that update.
 
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@Canon Rumors - don't stress yourself over such idiots, the site is good and if he wouldn't want to visit it he wouldn't even be on the forum.

Go bi*ch somewhere else please.

I think the 7D is very, very likely next year, so is the 5D Mark II. But indeed, 3 in a year would be a bit unusual, so that may leave the 1Ds Mark IV for this year, but almost definitely before the Olympics. When might the Rebels come out then, if early 2012 is 1Ds, middle is 5D, then 7D. It truly is a mistery, but these cameras are coming, that's the most important part ;D
 
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