Added ads and more added adds, what gives?

Viggo

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Dec 13, 2010
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Hi all!

Recently it was added loads of new ways to display ads here on CR. I’m not a Pro member and have long ago accepted ads on the site, I get why they’re there.

I’m fine with ads between posts in the forum, I can live with the full page ad when going from one thread to another. I really dislike the lower banner being in the way and shrinking my screen real estate, but I live with it.

But, now there is a banner on top blocking the menu, much more intensive and intrusive adds effectively blocking me from using the site like intended.

So I changed my browser to Safari and downloaded an adblocker and it was superb, until the site warns me and tries to make me disable the adblocker!

So the free site isn’t free anymore, might as well have it behind a paywall when it can’t be used with the insane amount of content covering ads.

how does other people feel?
 

CanonFanBoy

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Hi all!

Recently it was added loads of new ways to display ads here on CR. I’m not a Pro member and have long ago accepted ads on the site, I get why they’re there.

I’m fine with ads between posts in the forum, I can live with the full page ad when going from one thread to another. I really dislike the lower banner being in the way and shrinking my screen real estate, but I live with it.

But, now there is a banner on top blocking the menu, much more intensive and intrusive adds effectively blocking me from using the site like intended.

So I changed my browser to Safari and downloaded an adblocker and it was superb, until the site warns me and tries to make me disable the adblocker!

So the free site isn’t free anymore, might as well have it behind a paywall when it can’t be used with the insane amount of content covering ads.

how does other people feel?
I was running an ad blocker before membership with ad-free browsing was available here. Had no issues. I was very happy to see the memberships offered because I enjoy the website and want to support the work Craig does. Over the whole net, this is the only site I pay for other than Prime and Netflix. $20 a year to support my favorite website is fine by me.
 
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Kit.

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So I changed my browser to Safari and downloaded an adblocker and it was superb, until the site warns me and tries to make me disable the adblocker!
As far as I know, the site will tolerate your continuing use of an adblocker after the warning... which is kinda nice, but the question is why it is filed with ads so much that they make it unusable in the first place.
 
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Viggo

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As far as I know, the site will tolerate your continuing use of an adblocker after the warning... which is kinda nice, but the question is why it is filed with ads so much that they make it unusable in the first place.
Indeed, as long as I could skip the ads and navigate the site just fine I was okay with it. This is not okay:
 

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unfocused

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It does keep getting worse and worse. Charging for an ad-free experience seems like an unholy merger of extortion and elitism to me. I'm fine with a reasonable amount of ads, in fact I think it's better to have everyone endure a few ads, since I do believe in capitalism. But it just feels greedy to fill the entire site with ads. The latest trick seems to be to link individual posts to ads. It's bad on a PC and just ridiculous on a mobile phone.
 
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old-pr-pix

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I avoided getting the Pro membership just because I occasionally find the ads on CR interesting - highlighting something I might not otherwise come across. I do normally run an ad-blocker which is set to allow certain 'qualified' ads. CR occasionally asks to continue with the blocker in place but it isn't constant and isn't objectionable to me. I recently switched to a new PC and was amazed at how many ads there were on all sites, not just CR, before I implemented the ad-blocker. It seems in part my old PC was running slow simply because it was spending so much time with the ad-blocker throwing away ads.
 
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Mt Spokane Photography

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I avoided getting the Pro membership just because I occasionally find the ads on CR interesting - highlighting something I might not otherwise come across. I do normally run an ad-blocker which is set to allow certain 'qualified' ads. CR occasionally asks to continue with the blocker in place but it isn't constant and isn't objectionable to me. I recently switched to a new PC and was amazed at how many ads there were on all sites, not just CR, before I implemented the ad-blocker. It seems in part my old PC was running slow simply because it was spending so much time with the ad-blocker throwing away ads.
PC's need a dedicated processor that just exists to remove ads. I don't mind a few and some sites seem to reach a balance that makes them acceptable. For many sites, I turn on the ad blocker.
 
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dilbert

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Why more and more ads? Over time, the amount of money that ad views pay has gone down and continues to go down. Thus if your 5000 ad views got you $10 last year, this year it might be only $8, so if you want $10 then you need to serve up more ads. That either comes with more people or serving the existing set of people more ads. More people will probably mean more page views and drive costs up as well as a few extra cents from ads.
 

CanonFanBoy

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Why more and more ads? Over time, the amount of money that ad views pay has gone down and continues to go down. Thus if your 5000 ad views got you $10 last year, this year it might be only $8, so if you want $10 then you need to serve up more ads. That either comes with more people or serving the existing set of people more ads. More people will probably mean more page views and drive costs up as well as a few extra cents from ads.
Pay for membership or get an ad blocker. That's all you have to do. People that tend wonderful websites like this have to make a living. If we don't want the ads then we should pay to have them removed if we find the website content helpful or interesting. Membership is $20/year. That's a decent price on a spectacular buffet.
 

Viggo

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Dec 13, 2010
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Agaib, ads is okay. Not being able to view or click anything because ads are blocking everything is not okay. It’s the same as a paywall.
 
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unfocused

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Why more and more ads? Over time, the amount of money that ad views pay has gone down and continues to go down. Thus if your 5000 ad views got you $10 last year, this year it might be only $8, so if you want $10 then you need to serve up more ads. That either comes with more people or serving the existing set of people more ads. More people will probably mean more page views and drive costs up as well as a few extra cents from ads.
Yes. And the subscription model only makes it worse. Since ads are only shown to non subscribers the advertisers pay less for a smaller audience which means more ads are needed to generate the same amount of revenue.
 
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Viggo

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Yes. And the subscription model only makes it worse. Since ads are only shown to non subscribers the advertisers pay less for a smaller audience which means more ads are needed to generate the same amount of revenue.
That greed made me use an adblocker so now they get squat.
 

Mod_1

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The site techies turned on things they should not have done, resulting in more ads. This wasn't noticed by us as we are ad-free members. Craig will sort it out early next week so that the experience should improve in a couple of days.
 
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snappy604

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thanks. I generally turn off ads as well for security reasons, but I get finding a balance to help run things.

I liked the site enough to fork over $ for a permanent pro membership... even overcoming my aversion to paypal. But thought the site brought enough value so I did it.

however agree with others. Blocking hasn't prevented usage of the site, when I forget to log in I still block and can navigate around.
 

old-pr-pix

EOS RP
Dec 26, 2011
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Old tread I know, but it seems the number of ads has ratcheted up again. They pop-up on the bottom, top and sides of the page. Plus the relevance to topic has dropped. Far more irrelevant and annoying ads. As I explained above, I have left my ad blocker set to allow some ads to pass. I realize the site owner needs to make a buck but it appears they are going after more and more ads unrelated to photography or photographers.

My only defense is to block all ads from the site. Under new ownership does CR membership still effectively do that or should I just set my own ad blocker at full coverage?
 
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CanonFanBoy

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Old tread I know, but it seems the number of ads has ratcheted up again. They pop-up on the bottom, top and sides of the page. Plus the relevance to topic has dropped. Far more irrelevant and annoying ads. As I explained above, I have left my ad blocker set to allow some ads to pass. I realize the site owner needs to make a buck but it appears they are going after more and more ads unrelated to photography or photographers.

My only defense is to block all ads from the site. Under new ownership does CR membership still effectively do that or should I just set my own ad blocker at full coverage?
I think 2 bucks / month will solve your problem. Even with that, the owner doesn't make a buck. Money is made through ads, subscriptions, and affiliate means. That's it. There is no free lunch. Pay up. ;) Before subscriptions were available, I used an ad blocker I paid $40/year for that covers the entire net. I could have stuck to that model, but did not think it fair to take all the free knowledge I get here and not pay anything.