Well. I am not a professional photographer to expense Adobe products any more. I am looking into replacement too. Sad to spend so much learning time, training, and books on Adobe products.
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Adobe Has Released the Last Perpetual Update of the Standalone Version of Lightroom
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RGF said:
No, because upgrades costed less than the full product, you don't have to get each and every version, and many LR users don't use PS. So it could be $80-100 every three years or so compared to over $360. For some people it could be still a sensible difference. It's not a product aimed only to those who need to have always the latest $3-6K camera and lenses.
It also makes more difficult to buy it for gift. A gift that expires if you don't keep on paying doesn't look very good.
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RGF said:
rent payment every month. or purchase/no purchase for any number of months. and ohotoshop not needed or wanted here. bought it once, hated it for 1980s user interface, de-installed and will never again touch it. LR Develop module is all i want and use. dont see why i should pay monthly rent for forced bundle with photoshop. adobe should unbundle and offer 1 dollar/month LR only subscription as well ... then i might look differently at it.
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Because I like to own things or have unlimited access to a (software) tool was a standard in my life I never changed to some other license models.
As someone who likes to take photos and maximize technical IQ besides the photographic quality I have always been fine with DPP which supports cameras and lenses very well.
With Linux I tried digikam. It was very slow on raw files but gave excellent IQ and has lots of parameters to get the most out of raw files.
I am glad to lean back and say: No unnecessary changes to perform.
As someone who likes to take photos and maximize technical IQ besides the photographic quality I have always been fine with DPP which supports cameras and lenses very well.
With Linux I tried digikam. It was very slow on raw files but gave excellent IQ and has lots of parameters to get the most out of raw files.
I am glad to lean back and say: No unnecessary changes to perform.
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although i only have RAW files out of Canon cameras DPP in its current state is no option for me. it lacks any possibility for local adjustments and has no adequate keystone correction - these 2 features are what i realky like, need and use in LR.
if Canon would step up to the plate and implement these festures to bring DPP closer to LR develop module capabilities, i would happily use DPP and kiss Adobe goodbye forever. but ... stupid Canon.
if Canon would step up to the plate and implement these festures to bring DPP closer to LR develop module capabilities, i would happily use DPP and kiss Adobe goodbye forever. but ... stupid Canon.
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I know- "Nothing is forever" but Adobe led us to believe they would continue to support the stand alone product. I bought the upgrade from 5 to 6 for $79 and have downloaded the 6.14 but will never pay Adobe for a monthly. I would rather subscribe to another provider than reward their dishonesty!!
Marc
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Hi Marc.
With all due respect “led us (you) to believe” is not the same as “we promise to.....”
Did they ever promise?
As for subscription, nope not as long as I can avoid it, (I might have to for Windows if that ever goes subscription) I have DxO Optics Pro and have just paid £55 for the update to DxO Photo Lab which now has local adjustments though not layers as far as I can see, I didn’t have to upgrade but I tried the month free trial of the new version and liked the improvements.
Cheers, Graham.
Seasons greetings and best wishes for the new year.
With all due respect “led us (you) to believe” is not the same as “we promise to.....”
Did they ever promise?
As for subscription, nope not as long as I can avoid it, (I might have to for Windows if that ever goes subscription) I have DxO Optics Pro and have just paid £55 for the update to DxO Photo Lab which now has local adjustments though not layers as far as I can see, I didn’t have to upgrade but I tried the month free trial of the new version and liked the improvements.
Cheers, Graham.
Seasons greetings and best wishes for the new year.
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Valvebounce said:
They made it looks they did, even if they really didn't:
"Q. Will Lightroom become a subscription only offering after Lightroom 5?
A. Future versions of Lightroom will be made available via traditional perpetual licenses indefinitely."
(https://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2013/05/lightroom-and-the-creative-cloud.html?red=a&tduid=c50e2ac889a1c6acb759e006d4d4c5ae&url=https://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2013/05/lightroom-and-the-creative-cloud.html)
Just "indefinitely" doesn't really means "forever", "infinitely", it means "for an unspecified period". It's a classic marketing weasel word.
That's why I don't trust them when they say LR "Classic" will be around in the future... especially since there was no reason to call it "Classic"...
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Hi LDS.
Thank you for clarifying, yes indefinitely is definitely a misleading term, plus to me “Classic” means we are moving on!
Cheers, Graham.
Thank you for clarifying, yes indefinitely is definitely a misleading term, plus to me “Classic” means we are moving on!
Cheers, Graham.
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mb66energy said:
Linux and MacOS have different choices - also darktable. Like lightroom.
http://www.darktable.org/
Not Windows.
RGF said:
Price not same everywhere.
https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/plans.html
USD 10,20,50 (Africa, Canada, Mexico too)
https://www.adobe.com/jp/creativecloud/plans.html
JPY 980,2180,4180 (USD: $9, $19, $37)
https://www.adobe.com/uk/creativecloud/plans.html
GBP 10,20,40 (USD: $13, $26, $53)
https://www.adobe.com/de/creativecloud/plans.html
EUR 12,24,60 (USD: $14, $28, $71)
https://www.adobe.com/au/creativecloud/plans.html
AUD 14,29,73 (USD: $11, $22, $56)
NZD like AUD.
https://www.adobe.com/in/creativecloud/plans.html
INR 676,1353,3382 (USD: $10, $21, $53)
Everyone download same files.
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Chaitanya said:Another 2-3 years when I upgrade my camera its going to be bye-bye Adobe. Will try few other RAW editors before finalising on shift.KeithBreazeal said:Well, I guess it's better than nothing.I'll never go to CC.
The grass is already greener on the other side of the fence.
Same here.
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I used Photoshop CS 5.6 last night because I wanted to add type to a project I was working on. Usually I use DPP for my raw files. I increase the contrast and sharpen. When saving I convert it to a Tiff and jpeg. The jpeg I use for sending the pic via email to friends. The Tiff I use in PS to print a copy. This is working fine for me,so Adobe gets no more money from me!
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So, I am wondering how Adobe and other "subscription" type providers will react when the large Internet backbone providers start charging them to keep applications running smoothly. Additionally how will subscribers react when the internet Providers adopt the "pay for data" plan options (so much for working on-line with large RAW files ) used by the cell providers? Both options are on the table now that "net neutrality" is gone.
) used by the cell providers? Both options are on the table now that "net neutrality" is gone.
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