Arrival of Canon 24-105 f/4 IS USM II

[candyman]

On August 26th, I pre-ordered this lens (€1279). Altough it reads that this lens may be delivered by the end of October, the camera dealer believes that the lens will be available beginning of September when the first 5D MK IV's are delivered. According to the camera dealer this is due to the fact that this lens is also part of the kit.


What do you think? Or, what did you hear from your dealer?


I am eager to get my hands on this lens. I really want to find out which items of this lens in term of image quality really improved compared to the older model.

 

[monkey44]

On August 26th, I pre-ordered this lens (€1279). Altough it reads that this lens may be delivered by the end of October, the camera dealer believes that the lens will be available beginning of September when the first 5D MK IV's are delivered. According to the camera dealer this is due to the fact that this lens is also part of the kit.


What do you think? Or, what did you hear from your dealer?


I am eager to get my hands on this lens. I really want to find out which items of this lens in term of image quality really improved compared to the older model.

I'm eager to hear about this lens quality as well. I'm not a candidate for the 5DM4 (5DM3 + 7D2 here) but would like to upgrade the 24/105 ... I like the lens, but it is a bit finicky now and again at both ends, especially the edges (well, maybe I'm the finicky one ). So, would like to see if the upgrade is worth the difference.

 

[BeenThere]

Canon would not put out a replacement lens that is worse performer than the original; but we will have to wait for some independent reviews for the details. At least you can see that MTF is slightly better towards the edges.

 

[monkey44]

Canon would not put out a replacement lens that is worse performer than the original; but we will have to wait for some independent reviews for the details. At least you can see that MTF is slightly better towards the edges.

I agree, but want to see if it's worth paying another grand or so for the improvement. It's not a bad lens now - just a little temperamental once in a while when I don't expect it ... but I do work around a few shots with it occasionally, and would like to get enough improvement to trust it always. It would become my main walk-around lens on a 5DM3 if so ... 16-35 and 70-200 on each side of it now.

 

[LesC]

I'm interested to hear reviews of the new 24-105 too. I currently have the 24-70 F2.8L Mk2 which is good but not quite up to the hype that surrounds it in my opinion. I might be tempted to p/ex if for the new lens if reviews are really good.

 

[TommyLee]

sharper...especially better edges
low coma
3-4 stop I.S.

///
need to have all that....
then I want it.....


I cant understand why they didnt include blue goo

well...
we shall see

 

[LordofTackle]

sharper...especially better edges
3-4 stop I.S.

I guess you will get this

I cant understand why they didnt include blue goo

Probably because it is too expensive for this lower-end lens. Also, others have pointed out that it might not work in zoom lenses....

 

[bholliman]

I'm also looking forward to the reviews on this lens. I currently have a 24-70 f/4 IS which I am happy with, but I often miss having the 70-105mm reach. With this being a kit lens, I would expect some to become available in the used market in a few months. If it tests well, I'll definitely be picking one up, but will wait for the price to drop a little.

 

[mrzero]

I'm also looking forward to the reviews on this lens. I currently have a 24-70 f/4 IS which I am happy with, but I often miss having the 70-105mm reach. With this being a kit lens, I would expect some to become available in the used market in a few months. If it tests well, I'll definitely be picking one up, but will wait for the price to drop a little.

I am in the same boat. However, I have been truly hoping that the rumors about a new superzoom (i.e. 24/28-200/300mm) would pan out before I made that choice. Unfortunately, I think the new 24-105/4LII will drive down the resale value on our little 24-70/4's even further!

 

[RGF]

I'm interested to hear reviews of the new 24-105 too. I currently have the 24-70 F2.8L Mk2 which is good but not quite up to the hype that surrounds it in my opinion. I might be tempted to p/ex if for the new lens if reviews are really good.

+10

 

[Random Orbits]

I'd like to see how it does for video (focus breathing). I have the EF-S 18-135 specifically for taking videos (also one of the reasons why I have a crop camera too), and would rather simplify FF/APS-C/M to just FF/M, although I will miss the frame rate of the 7DII.

 

[jd7]

I'm also looking forward to the reviews on this lens. I currently have a 24-70 f/4 IS which I am happy with, but I often miss having the 70-105mm reach. With this being a kit lens, I would expect some to become available in the used market in a few months. If it tests well, I'll definitely be picking one up, but will wait for the price to drop a little.

I thinking along the same lines but I'm unsure what I will do. The 24-105L II is basically the same weight and even a touch longer than the 24-70 2.8L II, which does count against it as a walk around lens in my book. The way I'm seeing it at moment, leaving aside cost and IQ, is:
24-70 4L IS: advantages are weight (light), size (small), macro. And compared to the 24-70 2.8L II, also IS.
24-70 2.8L II: advantage is one stop of aperture.
24-105 4L IS II: advantage is extra range (70-105). And compared to the 24-70 2.8L II, also IS.

I think for me it will come down to IQ. Unless the 24-105 4L IS II is substantially better than the 24-70 4L IS, I might just stick with the 24-70 4L IS unless I decide I want 2.8. Time will tell!

 

[candyman]

I'm also looking forward to the reviews on this lens. I currently have a 24-70 f/4 IS which I am happy with, but I often miss having the 70-105mm reach. With this being a kit lens, I would expect some to become available in the used market in a few months. If it tests well, I'll definitely be picking one up, but will wait for the price to drop a little.

I thinking along the same lines but I'm unsure what I will do. The 24-105L II is basically the same weight and even a touch longer than the 24-70 2.8L II, which does count against it as a walk around lens in my book. The way I'm seeing it at moment, leaving aside cost and IQ, is:
24-70 4L IS: advantages are weight (light), size (small), macro. And compared to the 24-70 2.8L II, also IS.
24-70 2.8L II: advantage is one stop of aperture.
24-105 4L IS II: advantage is extra range (70-105). And compared to the 24-70 2.8L II, also IS.

I think for me it will come down to IQ. Unless the 24-105 4L IS II is substantially better than the 24-70 4L IS, I might just stick with the 24-70 4L IS unless I decide I want 2.8. Time will tell!

Leaving aside cost and IQ:
I would say you have another option: the Canon 24-105 f/3.5-f/5.6 IS STM which is 525gram
The MTF of this lens looks very similar with that of the 24-105L f/4 II
I guess it all comes down to real life test between those lenses. Of course the STM version does not have the build quality and the weatherresistent of the L-versions.

 

[jd7]

I'm also looking forward to the reviews on this lens. I currently have a 24-70 f/4 IS which I am happy with, but I often miss having the 70-105mm reach. With this being a kit lens, I would expect some to become available in the used market in a few months. If it tests well, I'll definitely be picking one up, but will wait for the price to drop a little.

I thinking along the same lines but I'm unsure what I will do. The 24-105L II is basically the same weight and even a touch longer than the 24-70 2.8L II, which does count against it as a walk around lens in my book. The way I'm seeing it at moment, leaving aside cost and IQ, is:
24-70 4L IS: advantages are weight (light), size (small), macro. And compared to the 24-70 2.8L II, also IS.
24-70 2.8L II: advantage is one stop of aperture.
24-105 4L IS II: advantage is extra range (70-105). And compared to the 24-70 2.8L II, also IS.

I think for me it will come down to IQ. Unless the 24-105 4L IS II is substantially better than the 24-70 4L IS, I might just stick with the 24-70 4L IS unless I decide I want 2.8. Time will tell!

Leaving aside cost and IQ:
I would say you have another option: the Canon 24-105 f/3.5-f/5.6 IS STM which is 525gram
The MTF of this lens looks very similar with that of the 24-105L f/4 II
I guess it all comes down to real life test between those lenses. Of course the STM version does not have the build quality and the weatherresistent of the L-versions.

That's a fair comment. I'm not keen on the 5.6 aperture at the long end though. At that focal length, f/4 already seems slow ... But I guess it's what you have to trade if you want a smaller and lighter lens. I'd prefer USM AF to STM too. Anyway, will wait for the real world reviews of the new lens and decide after that.

 

[Josh Denver]

About it being available in Septembre because it is kitted with the 5D: Sorry no. The 24-70mm F4 + 5D is the only kit available in september, while the 5D + 24-105mm kit will be only available in October due to the lens delay.

Since Canon doesn't include a discount with the kits, I thought getting the body now and the 24-105 in october is the way to go.

I have high hopes for it. For video that it.

 

[bholliman]

I hope this lens comes out sooner rather than later. I'm currently without a standard zoom since my son took my 24-70 f/4 IS and 6D with him to Europe, and he will be away until the end of the year.

I thought I wouldn't miss it since I have 16-35, 70-200 and a 35 and 50 prime - but I do. The 70-200 f/2.8 is just too heavy most of the time and juggling 2-3 lenses a hassle for family outings. 24-105 will be perfect.

 

[Maximilian59]

Asked Canon personal at Photokina yesterday about arrival of this lens. There was no clear answer. Can be October, but it ist more like November. Seamed more as they really did not know.

 

[TeT]

October shipments...

 

[Doctorfrag]

I hope the kit price (5D IV + 24-105 II) will not be too high, because I really want to pair them with my 16-35/4 and 100-400 II; while the latter gains rech when used with my 7D...the wide angle side is awful. I had the 10-22 for my 7D and I really miss that focal lenght for landscape photography
I sold the 10-22 and 17-55/2.8 to switch from aps-c to FF (while keeping my trusty 7D). I still don't have the new body: in the meanwhile I am earning money and waiting for a kit solution

 

[NancyP]

I am thinking about FINALLY getting a normal zoom for my full frame (6D). I tend to use the 60D with zooms and long lenses, 6D with primes and macros.