Canon EOS R3 sensor resolution to be 45mp?

HotPixels

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I don't think the assumption that all photographers shooting for Getty are automatically using Canon holds true.

I just checked their site for Olympic photos...there are several by one photographer, François-Xavier Marit, of AF-P. He is a Nikon shooter. He tags a lot of his IG photos with #nikon and #nikonfr.

Nikon featured him a while back in an article on their global NPS website:
https://nps.nikonimaging.com/interview/marit/

And indeed, many of his images are exactly 24MP.

So I think that while those directly employed by Getty may only use Canon, perhaps they also contract out to others for some of their work.

But regardless, the assumption that all photos of the Olympics offered by Getty Images are taken with Canon is incorrect.
I'm going to reply issue a correction to myself. I now get what the point that the original post was making. Al Bello is indeed a staff photog at Getty and does indeed use Canon gear. So the collection of photos that he has uploaded is of unique interest.

So while not all Getty photos are taken with Canon gear, all photos by that one photographer, Al Bello are taken with Canon gear. And that means something. Sorry for the confusion.
 

FrenchFry

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I'm going to reply issue a correction to myself. I now get what the point that the original post was making. Al Bello is indeed a staff photog at Getty and does indeed use Canon gear. So the collection of photos that he has uploaded is of unique interest.

So while not all Getty photos are taken with Canon gear, all photos by that one photographer, Al Bello are taken with Canon gear. And that means something. Sorry for the confusion.
Or, also possible, it doesn't mean anything.

As you pointed out, lots of the images on Getty have the same max size, regardless of the body used.
 

Franklyok

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Oct 24, 2018
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Same generation sensors seem to be pixel density agnostic when normalized.
It is new generation , Canon’s first BSI sensor.

And still I believe DR depends on processor(s), and not so much about sensor ( less mpx the better of cause ).

Each processor generation has added some 0.3 stops of DR to the same generation sensor. Check dxomark 18 mpx apsc for example.

Hopefully dual digic 10 this time.
 

dpockett

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I don't think the assumption that all photographers shooting for Getty are automatically using Canon holds true.

I just checked their site for Olympic photos...there are several by one photographer, François-Xavier Marit, of AF-P. He is a Nikon shooter. He tags a lot of his IG photos with #nikon and #nikonfr.

Nikon featured him a while back in an article on their global NPS website:
https://nps.nikonimaging.com/interview/marit/

And indeed, many of his images are exactly 24MP.

So I think that while those directly employed by Getty may only use Canon, perhaps they also contract out to others for some of their work.

But regardless, the assumption that all photos of the Olympics offered by Getty Images are taken with Canon is incorrect.

I am a stringer for Getty and to my knowledge, they don't have a contract with Canon. I know a few staffers who shoot on Nikon, one I can think of on Panasonic (ambassador). Haven't met any on Sony, majority shoot Canon, but there is no contract. Canon and Nikon send teams to major events to support photographers with service and gear to borrow, that's where the R3's would be coming from.

What are you looking at? I see that Getty offers rights to use images in three sizes – small, medium and large. Are you referring to the sizes quoted there? If so, that means nothing.

Every time I shoot any sports event, after I'm done processing the files I send the final files through the Photoshop script that resizes them and converts them to jpgs (From PSDs) I have one setting for photos that will end up on the web and another larger size in case the photos are needed later for print. It takes hardly any time at all.

These photographer are not posting or processing anything themselves. Their files are transferred to editors who select the best frames and to techs who process those frames. No doubt, Getty has custom scripts that resize the processed file so they can offer them in three sizes for anyone to purchase the usage rights.

I apologize if you are looking at something else, but if you are looking at the sizes Getty is offering the images in, that means zero, zip, nada.

If you look in the information below the photos you can see the resolution of the full-size image. This is the res it is uploaded as, not the small/medium/large.

Traditionally, photographers for Getty/AFP/Reuters edit their own photos live, but when there are major international (and some domestic) events, editors are on shift to handle the editing. So yeah, there is a massive team of editors for Getty currently editing the Olympics. Photographers sending remotely to editors all over the planet to edit. Usually the files won't be resized, but they are often cropped and output at whatever size cropped to.
 
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Franklyok

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30 mp is enough of a jump from my 1DX mark II that I would definitely pre-order the camera day one. 24 mp just doesn't feel particularly as future proof to me, so then it would turn back into a decision for me between the R3 or just getting a second R5 with a battery grip while I wait for the R1.

24 mp also makes me feel like they could pull off way more than 30 fps.. The 1DX mark III was doing 5.5K raw at friggin' 60 frames per second. Why not do 50-60 FPS raw photos?
The only thing I could think why one would need more mpx is to be able to crop in , as if 24 mpx isn’t enough and 800 mm f11 too expensive.
 

David_D

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I think it might be time for some deductive speculation... I have been thinking about what we know and what we would like to know. One thing Canon have told us is that the R3 can focus in low light, down to EV -7. I believe the figure for the R5 is -6.5, i.e. a half stop improvement. Larger photo-sites, i.e. lower resolution would improve the low light figure, suggesting 30mp or even 24mp could be right. However my understanding is that the BSI sensor should also improve low light ability. Would a 24mp or 30mp BSI sensor have only half a stop improvement over the R5? Could the BSI sensor alone give that improvement, i.e. the resolution is unchanged? Could anyone who actually understands these things comment? :)
 

FrenchFry

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The only thing I could think why one would need more mpx is to be able to crop in , as if 24 mpx isn’t enough and 800 mm f11 too expensive.
There are lots of reasons why the 800mm F11 won't work for many shooting situations that have nothing to do with price. If shooting small animals in a forested area, for instance, F11 may not gather enough light. There can also be issues with not enough subject separation (busy backgrounds) and a really large minimum focusing distance. Furthermore the lens is not weather sealed like an L lens and thus more vulnerable to getting fogged up or damaged in humid and rainy weather typical of the tropics.
The lens does a lot of things really well for the price, but it's not a universal solution for all reach limited situations.
 

privatebydesign

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It is new generation , Canon’s first BSI sensor.

And still I believe DR depends on processor(s), and not so much about sensor ( less mpx the better of cause ).

Each processor generation has added some 0.3 stops of DR to the same generation sensor. Check dxomark 18 mpx apsc for example.

Hopefully dual digic 10 this time.
I know it’s a new generation, my point is this new generation will have the same dynamic range if it is 24 or 30mp, or 45, or 60. Pixel density does not seem to be a big factor in dynamic range capability when the sensors are the same generation and the output is normalized.

Look at examples from the 1DX III and R5.

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Franklyok

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I know it’s a new generation, my point is this new generation will have the same dynamic range if it is 24 or 30mp, or 45, or 60. Pixel density does not seem to be a big factor in dynamic range capability when the sensors are the same generation and the output is normalized.

Look at examples from the 1DX III and R5.

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You probably also mean same generation processor. It is possible indeed. We have no idea if Canon has thoughtfully configured ( cripled / down shifted ) to make no difference.

however in the past the same old sensor ( 18 mpx for example ) has a litle performance increase, if loaded with newer generation processor. Processor / motherboard are the botle necks in my opinion.

R3 processor has AI side tasks, so the main accomplishment may not be bigger DR diging at all.
 

privatebydesign

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You probably also mean same generation processor. It is possible indeed. We have no idea if Canon has thoughtfully configured ( cripled / down shifted ) to make no difference.

however in the past the same old sensor ( 18 mpx for example ) has a litle performance increase, if loaded with newer generation processor. Processor / motherboard are the botle necks in my opinion.

R3 processor has AI side tasks, so the main accomplishment may not be bigger DR diging at all.
No, I said what I meant. I also showed data to support that position.
 

Cyborx

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I was all in on buying an R3 but after hearing the MP I will wait on the R1.
You are not alone my friend, and with us many many others…
More waiting… ‍Canon is challenging it’s users on a scale beyond belief.
 
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Cyborx

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Imagine Canon is now building the R1.. and you bet they are. The R1 will be at least 45 mpix. And at least 30fps. Less would be unacceptable with the R5 having a 45 mpix sensor.

Imagine the R1 hitting the market next year. What would the R3 still be worth?
Exactly.. not much. So I ain’t buying it.

All together this is a sad period in Canon’s product development history. The R3 will be considered outdated the minute it is launched I’m afraid.

Just crossing my fingers Canon is able to launch the R1 asap before Sony does an A1 mark II with 60mpix and 50fps or whatever epic specs..
 

neuroanatomist

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Imagine Canon is now building the R1.. and you bet they are. The R1 will be at least 45 mpix. And at least 30fps. Less would be unacceptable with the R5 having a 45 mpix sensor.
Imagine if Canon released a 50 MP 5-series camera, then released a new 5-series camera with only 30 MP, then a 1-series camera with only 20 MP. Would that be unacceptable?
 

neuroanatomist

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The R1 if 80+MP will be the best selling camera in photographic history
Except for every Canon, Nikon and Sony entry level camera ever launched. And almost every P&S camera ever launched. Lol, you sound more foolish and asinine with every post.