Year | 2017 | 2018 | 2019 | 2020 | 2021 | 2022 |
Total SLR & Mirrorless | 11,675,689 | 10,759,797 | 8,461,490 | 5,307,649 | 5,348,271 | 5,926,733 |
SLR | 7,595,708 | 6,620,999 | 4,504,987 | 2,374,569 | 2,241,772 | 1,853,222 |
Mirrorless | 4,079,981 | 4,138,798 | 3,956,503 | 2,933,080 | 3,106,499 | 4,073,511 |
% SLR | 65.06% | 61.53% | 53.24% | 44.74% | 41.92% | 31.27% |
% Mirroless | 34.94% | 38.47% | 46.76% | 55.26% | 58.08% | 68.73% |
Porsche produces only a few car models. In addition to the R8, Canon also produces the R5, R6, R6ll,R3, R7, R50, R10...... and several DSLR models are still in production. Let's not forget the huge range of lenses. It is a manufacture of very fine electronics and optics. It requires great precision and puts a different strain on production facilities.
In addition, Canon is still selling off DSLR stock and the RP/ R stock is selling at a very competitive price point now. RP is 850-950 € and the R sells for 1.299 €. For people who walk into a store looking for a FF model, those prices are super intriguing compared to the R8.
In the case where supply catches up with demand after a few months, what percentage of people decide to pick a different brand versus a different model or just waiting?
The worst thing was realizing, in hindsight, that the camera had been at the store when I drove past it on the way to the ferry!I know from other forums that the vacation thing is a real thing but I doubt very many people are going to preorder a camera and hope to get it before vacation.
Agreed, though I’m sure some do. Case in point, I preordered the R8 hoping to get it before an early summer trip. But I don’t need it for that trip, I have the R3. As I’ve stated, I’m still undecided on whether or not I’ll keep the preorder. I probably will, if the R8 will arrive several weeks before my trip.
That was exactly my train of thought as well, but with an R5, not an R3
We will be doing some snorkeling and scuba diving on this trip. It's been a long time since I've been diving, the last time I used a disposable underwater film camera. I was initially considering a high end P&S like the G1X III with a housing (Canon offers one, but a cursory look suggests others are better). The problem is that such a camera would not really replace my M6II for travel because 24mm FF FoV is not wide enough, especially since the M11-22 is my most-used lens on trips. That led me to look at housings for the M6II. Ikelite makes one, with the port(s), strobe and TTL kit it comes out to about the price of the R8.
Thinking a little more about this, I started wondering about a housing for the other cameras I'll be bringing – the ones on my iPhone 14 Pro. I'm now strongly considering a SeaLife setup with the smartphone case, dual tray and a pair of 3000-lumen lights that will allow me to shoot both stills and video.
I think that demographic of buyer has shrunk a lot, and I don't think the R8 was for them anyway. I think they were the type that walked in to best buy or costco (or amazon) and look at those rebel kits with the lens, bag etc - ready to go vacation cam. Canon's marketing was being there in volume at competitive price points. Now Canon finds these folks by paying Amazon for preferential ranking on search results.In the case where supply catches up with demand after a few months, what percentage of people decide to pick a different brand versus a different model or just waiting?
I can imagine first time buyers, with a deadline for a vacation/wedding/birth, not wanting to wait for backorders. But without a deadline, how much delay would cause a large portion to decide on a different brand? I don't mean that as a rhetorical question, I genuinely wonder where that tipping point is.
Personally, I do a lot of research into the available options, hunt down neighbours/friends/family with similar needs and check on forums to see how long $brand has been dooooooooomed already. For most things, there's such a clear winner that waiting a few months isn't an issue for me. For deadlines like a vacation, I haven't had a something required go on backorder in a long time, so my R7 preorder landing on a batch a few months after the original batch wasn't an issue. However, it was annoying that it arrived at the store while I was on my way to my vacation destination. So my direct need was gone and I decided not to buy anything
Let's see how the R8 timing works out this year. And I'll give the store a call before driving past it again
In recent years, very few new cameras/lenses/flashes have been 'in stock' at major retailers when they first started shipping. The past couple of years, it's typically been several months before supply surpassed demand and retailers had stock ready to ship. The bottom line is that if you're committed to the Canon ecosystem and want a particular camera/lens/flash, you should be aware that if you want it as soon as possible after release, you should preorder it as soon as orders go live.
Well, I think the consensus a year or 2 back was that the the R range was too small, and that bodies such as the EOS R and RP were stopgaps that needed to be replaced. And that Canon was being too slow etc in doing so. The more recent bodies - which have certainly come in a flurry! - are either replacements for those FF cameras, or a move into the APS-C space, being the replacements for the 7D II, the xxDs and the M series. They make sense when looked at that way.
