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Canon has discontinued the Canon EOS M6 Mark II
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The M series is consumer oriented. It’s a mature system, with a good selection of lenses for its target market. Canon doesn’t care if you personally
You listed a bunch of L series lenses you’ve bought, all of those can be easily adapted to any Canon mirrorless body. That’s a form of commitment.
The size of the M series lenses is possible because of the smaller image circle and smaller throat diameter of the mount. You’re not ever going to see RF lenses that small.
Honestly, it sounds like by ‘commitment to the M series’ you mean that you want Canon to make a camera just for you – a bigger body than any other M to date that works with the small EF-M lenses.
I know quite a few people who, when they found themselves unable to carry their large FF gear, switched to Fuji and were very happy. Maybe you should consider ‘investing’ in Fuji.
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Buyer-seller relationships are inherently adversarial. See The Evolution of Cooperation by Robert Axelrod
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Then you must like Sony and Nikon. You’re not a customer of theirs, and the enemy of your enemy is your friend.
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Yep, you're right. Canon has done it better than anybody else over the last 40 years. Whoever designed the EOS communications protocol did a superb job, especially regarding extensibility.
Concerning the M system, I own an M5 and 4 lenses. I've pretty much given up on them. But why buy a small camera so I can put on an adapter and a big lens? I've decided to just suffer along. Buying an F/4 trinity was a big help and the R6 seems about the right size.
Regarding whether "investing" in a hobby makes sense, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Appealing subjects are easy to get nice shots of. A phone will take a fine photo of a sunset in Venice. Higher level equipment shines where things are more challenging - smaller, further, poorer light, faster action.
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What lenses are missing that you'd want? Genuine question. And how many of them would be substantially smaller than an adapted EF equivalent?
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The RF f/4 Trinity zoom is a fantastic set! I especially love the 70-200. My favorite version of all 6 70-200 L lenses I have owned over the years.
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Why given up? They have the same capabilities as the day you bought them, and those are solid capabilities. I have an M6 and all 8 EF-M lenses. I use them occasionally, which has been my pattern since buying them as a smaller kit to supplement to my FF kit.
I bought an M2 previously, and my teen daughter uses that with various lenses as well.
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Agreed. When I travel somewhere I know I’ll want to take photos, I bring the gear that will deliver the best IQ available to me – FF camera with appropriate lenses.
Traveling with family does require compromise. On those trips, I often bring the M kit for daytime since it fits easily in a backpack with other necessities. I also reserve some time for solo outings with the FF gear.
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This may sound a bit cynical, but you are not going to get a lot of ROI on any camera unless you are a professional or enjoy shooting the camera. If you are satisfied with he lenses and accessories available form Canon and 3rd parties, stay with the M and enjoy the shooting experience. If there are capabilities you would upgrade for and they are not in the current M, move on to a new system. I have an M6 II + 18-150 and several of the Sigma primes that I plan to keep until it they die. My main cameras are the R3, R5 and RF lenses but I enjoy using the M when I want something light and to just have fun. With he ability to adapt EF glass, there is a wide selection of glass for the M (not as small as a dedicated lens).
I think Canon will keep most of the M series in production until revenue begins to decline. The supply chain, staffing, manufacturing and many other considerations are driving companies to re-evaluate their product lines and focus where the have the best opportunity for return.
If Canon produces an R7 I and it is 32mp or more I will pick one up for wildlife photography. I doubt I would buy a smaller profile APS-C R and would stick with the M6 II for travel and casual shooting.
David
I think Canon will keep most of the M series in production until revenue begins to decline. The supply chain, staffing, manufacturing and many other considerations are driving companies to re-evaluate their product lines and focus where the have the best opportunity for return.
If Canon produces an R7 I and it is 32mp or more I will pick one up for wildlife photography. I doubt I would buy a smaller profile APS-C R and would stick with the M6 II for travel and casual shooting.
David
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This may sound a bit cynical, but you are not going to get a lot of ROI on any camera "investment" unless you are a professional or derive pleasure from using the camera. If you are satisfied with he lenses and accessories available form Canon and 3rd parties, stay with the M and enjoy the shooting experience. If there are capabilities you would upgrade for and they are not in the current M, move on to a new system. I have an M6 II + 18-150 and several of the Sigma primes that I plan to keep until it they die. My main cameras are the R3, R5 and RF lenses but I enjoy using the M when I want something light and to just have fun. With he ability to adapt EF glass, there is a wide selection of glass for the M (not as small as a dedicated lens).
I think Canon will keep most of the M series in production until revenue begins to decline. The supply chain, staffing, manufacturing and many other considerations are driving companies to re-evaluate their product lines and focus where the have the best opportunity for return.
If Canon produces an R7 I and it is 32mp or more I will pick one up for wildlife photography. I doubt I would buy a smaller profile APS-C R and would stick with the M6 II for travel and casual shooting.
David
I think Canon will keep most of the M series in production until revenue begins to decline. The supply chain, staffing, manufacturing and many other considerations are driving companies to re-evaluate their product lines and focus where the have the best opportunity for return.
If Canon produces an R7 I and it is 32mp or more I will pick one up for wildlife photography. I doubt I would buy a smaller profile APS-C R and would stick with the M6 II for travel and casual shooting.
David
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Canon is still having parts supply problems. They recently wrote:
"we prioritized the supply of high-end models such as the EOS R5 and EOS R6"
"we prioritized the supply of high-end models such as the EOS R5 and EOS R6"
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I agree. I also have 2 R6s and an R5 and the RP (at least in terms of the grip) is about as small as I would prefer to go, though they could still trim here and there. Small light RF lenses would really be welcome. The RF 50 and 16 are both a good start, but smaller is better.
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Ok. So two countries at war can not sell the M50 any more. Canon will never sell an apsc DSLR looking camera as well as the M50 or M6. Many consumers simply don't want anything that looks like a professional camera with them while traveling.
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Perhaps I should put the RP next to an R5 or R6. I doubt it would change your mind, however, the size difference between the RP and other RF cameras is really significant. If you think the RP is big and bulky, the other RF cameras are outright monsters in comparison. The point I was trying to make was that if Canon really wanted to replace M with RF they're already not that far off with the RP. Doing APS-C just isn't that necessary to get a small camera.
I also don't disagree that M cameras and lenses are small. They should be. If Canon really wants to replace the M line, they'd do well to release some really small RF lenses and trim down the RP body even more. They started the RF line off with big heavy L line pro lenses, but it appears that they're starting to release smaller and lighter lenses as we see with the 50 and 16 RF lenses. BTW, they actually could make even smaller/shorter lenses than that, so I think in another year or so we'll see where this is really going.
All that said, I'm also a pretty firm believer that there is such a thing as too small. For example, my camera phone is rarely used for anything but casual snapshots. Why? It's too hard to hold it still and still get a shot that is shake free. I have gorilla hands, so I'm sure others have differing views on this, but for me personally, below a certain weight/size level my quality of photos goes down because the camera/photo platform is too small for me to effectively use.
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Me too!
The OM1 has a lot of outstanding features, great weather resistance and a vast choice of sharp, luminous and compact lenses.
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