Canon officially announces the Canon EOS M50 Mark II

stevelee

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In the same sense, it makes sense to shoot vertical if you are certain that your content is going to be consumed on a smartphone. So adding it to the M50 seems like a good idea considering the target demographic.
I look at things on the phone in horizontal orientation quite frequently. Rotating the phone 90º is not that monumental an effort. Besides a lifetime of seeing movies and TV, the experience of having two eyes arranged horizontally makes that seem more intuitive.
 

dwarven

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Oh I read that correctly, no need to school marm me, my take on their profits is the line is rock solid, one dud model or whatnot.
Dud or not, they don't seem to have any interest in further developing the M mount. No new lenses, or any on the horizon that anyone can see. A new body with some firmware updates. They're floating this camera to see if it gets the same sales as its predecessor. Canon knows it probably won't, but the improvements it has likely didn't cost much in R&D, so why not. It would be better for everyone if they make an RF-S line of cameras. Canon gets to further streamline its manufacturing process, and we don't have to worry about investing in an entirely different mount if we want an APS-C mirrorless camera.
 

EOS 4 Life

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The typical M50 buyer walks into the store and buys "a camera" and is unlikely to be aware this is a new model.

I doubt a current owner is going to bother to sell and upgrade.

And Canon surely has already taken that into account. They're expecting to sell these to new buyers, just like most M50s-without-mark-number in the past, but I don't think they're expecting the existing user base to try to convert and give them a huge spike in sales.
I believe all of that is true but there are a lot of disappointed people hoping to upgrade.
The question is if Canon will provide a camera for those people to upgrade to at a price that interests them.
 

Joules

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I look at things on the phone in horizontal orientation quite frequently. Rotating the phone 90º is not that monumental an effort. Besides a lifetime of seeing movies and TV, the experience of having two eyes arranged horizontally makes that seem more intuitive.
I am not saying that rotating is too much of an effort. Just that at least with my hands and my smartphone, vertical orientation is simpler to maintain over longer periods. To type in horizontal orientation for example, I would need both hands, while I can do it with one in vertical.

I simply don't see vertical video as the hellspawn that some may describe it. I rotate my phone accordingly when viewing images in horizontal or vertical format, so that the fill up the whole screen. Why not do the same with video? If you know how your content is consumed, and Canon gives you a new option to tailor it more specifically to that platform, I think it is just fine to take advantage of that.

There's a place and a time. That's all I'm saying. I also can see how your point of a lifetime of watching stuff in horizontal is why I originally wrote demographic, and not market segment. When your main way of interacting with media doesn't even have the option of rotation (TV, Laptop) or requires a decent amount of effort (PC monitor), it makes much more sense to settle on one orientation.

But Canon can't afford to enforce 'the right way' when a part of the market simply uses devices with different characteristics that influence the way content is consumed.
 

brad-man

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I believe all of that is true but there are a lot of disappointed people hoping to upgrade.
The question is if Canon will provide a camera for those people to upgrade to at a price that interests them.
There are also a lot of disappointed people waiting for an M5 upgrade to M6 mkll specs. The M6 has been out for over a year and still nothing. I have a difficult time understanding Canon's strategy here. And now back to discussing the M50 and how to hold a camera...
 
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There are also a lot of disappointed people waiting for an M5 upgrade to M6 mkll specs. The M6 has been out for over a year and still nothing ...
In same respects that is the position I'm in. Ideal is a EVF (as part of camera rather than clip-on), more pixels (for flexibility when cropping; though 32 would be OK). That the higher-end update was not released now is not a massive issue as much as my being unsure about Canon's commitment to the M-series.

If I could go travelling tomorrow I'd opt for the M6 II (with a clip-on viewfinder) but I can't head off right now so I'm happy to wait in the hope Canon will have further announcements and some warm words about their commitment to the M-mount.

I don't interpret the M50 II as a commitment as (with no knowledge of development timescales, etc.) I guess it was in the pipeline anyway so release/production was not big cost so a bit of a no-brainer and would allow any decision to be delayed a bit (and avoid any M50 reviews "in need of an update" or "has now lagged behind ..."

Ian