I don’t know that the R5c would have been in the pipeline before the release of the R5. I think that it is more of a reaction to the market. Had it been in the pipeline, release date would be much sooner.Marketing mistakes aside, the EOS R5 is a stills first camera. There are still more stills buyers than hybrid buyers. The #1 target market for the R5 was 5D shooters.
A larger body and active cooling will add at least $1000 to the price. An R5 launching at $4899 would have caused a revolt. Stills shooters don't need to be paying for a fan, they're already annoyed with the assumption that they're paying for excessive video features.
An R5c would have been in the pipeline long before the release of the R5.
I said from day one Canon is just testing the 8K abilities in a stills camera prior to releasing it in a cine camera. Seems it works so good, all Canon needs to do to turn it into a cine camera is some finishing touches to the firmware, and repackage the internals in a cine camera body.
Because the only real reason to buy a more expensive R5c would be for 8K. For everything else video you'd be so much more better suited to a C70.Why, the C70 is an s35 camera that shoots 4K, a FF camera that shoots 8k is going to cost more.
Not really: no EVF, no IBIS, no FF, inferior low light (or with the 0.71x adapter only EF lenses will fit with some restrictions), older AF system, no usable crop mode up to 4k60p and of course no stills capability, not a 2-in-1 package.Because the only real reason to buy a more expensive R5c would be for 8K. For everything else video you'd be so much more better suited to a C70.
Considering very few people shoot 8K why pay more for an inferior video camera?
So the price of the "regular" R5 will drop dramatically in favor of still photographers? That is great news for future R5 owners!Thats bad news for current R5 owners , that means the next firmware updates are not going to sort the heating issues out , or add much to the video side of the current R5
I think I have read somewhere that making a new camera-model is a 18-24 months process. Of course it is a bit blurry when exact the process for a specific model starts, but considering additinal delays by COVID, I cannot image this being a "reaction to market" reaction after the R5 release.I don’t know that the R5c would have been in the pipeline before the release of the R5. I think that it is more of a reaction to the market. Had it been in the pipeline, release date would be much sooner.
The reaction to the market that I refer to is Sony's FX3. They took an existing camera design and repackaged it with active cooling. To me, it seems that the R5C will be a repackage of the R5.I think I have read somewhere that making a new camera-model is a 18-24 months process. Of course it is a bit blurry when exact the process for a specific model starts, but considering additinal delays by COVID, I cannot image this being a "reaction to market" reaction after the R5 release.
"Fun fact": Around New Year 2019 Imaging Resource had a talk with Canon were they told they had "an 8K video capable camera is already in our EOS R-series roadmap". That must have been the R5, which, as far as I remember, started shipping in late(?) summer 2020.
Sorry, but I disagree. I don't want a camera that's bigger, heavier, more expensive, and (possibly) less weatherproof. It's great that the R5c is coming out so that you can be happy with it, and I can be happy without it.This is what the R5 should have been to start with.
I don't think so. The R5 will be for people who primarily do stills. The R5c will be for people who primarily do video. As the C70 demonstrates, adding a fan makes a camera fatter. Many still photographers wouldn't like that. The C70 also has a bunch of additional buttons on the side.
Ditch the stills, I agree and perhaps on newer models they will ditch the video. Benefits to both sides of the industryFINALLY!!! That will be a REALLY exciting 4K camera. R5 in a C70 type body. Internal NDs I wonder? I'm assuming no pro level mic inputs and preamps sets like the cinema line but hey, that's just fine. I'd almost rather see them ditch the stills completely and go with a DV 7 chip
Actually it forced the hand of all mirrorless camera manufacturers that were tinkering around the edges and selling mere firmware tweeks for thousands. The mirrorless hybrid has plateaud with the inclusion of 8k and all of the 4k All-I modes that the R5 offered. Nothing more without active cooling. As noted by Sony's limited video recording for the A1 and A7S3 and consequently their release of the FX3. Both being the result of the Canon R5.
Good. Not every Cinema camera is for everyone. Nor is every still camera for everyone. Some people shoot film, medium and large format.I will take my weathered sealed R5 over a Camera that has longer record times and is not weather sealed all day and everyday. (No idea what the R5C will have but it is safe bet that active cooling = fan = less weather sealed.)
Right tool for the job, if the new Camera better suit for your needs buy that and be happy but I think calling one of the best selling Cameras on the market a mistake is just trolling.
BTW, I have not had a single overheating issue with my R5 or my R6 because I know what it is capable of and work with what I have.
Wrong. No copper plate will answer cooling. Period. Just a temporary fix at best. Replace your PC fan with simply a copper heat sink and see how long that will last you.No firmware is going to fix what was simply just a stupid lack of a proper cooper plate. I already measured it out and have one cnced. Moment my warranty is up I am slapping it in. If you do video at 4k hq the camera overheats very quickly. Luckily on social media with reg 4k and 75% sharpness added in premier and 4k crop mode, it still looks very good.