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EF 800 f/5.6L IS II [CR2]

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<p><strong>More talk of the biggest of the whites

</strong>We’re told that an announcement for a new EF 800 f/5.6L IS II could come at any time, as the update is “ready to go”.</p>
<p>We’ll see if Canon can price it higher than <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/918849-REG/nikon_2205_af_s_nikkor_800mm_f_5_6e.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">Nikon’s version</a>!</p>
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Ellen Schmidtee said:
Updating the lens after 5 years? That would be quick. Is having a superior 800mm lens that important to Canon?
+1

I'm sure having the best 800 is important to a lot of folks, but I dare say a lot more folks would rather see improvements to some of the more affordable white lenses, like the 300 f/4, 400 f/5.6, 100-400, and maybe give us a non-DO 400 f/4 for the masses...
 
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I had this lens for 4years,I sold it to buy the new Nikon 800,the Nikon is far better than the Canon so i think any Canon user in the Market for an 800 will be glad to see this update,If it had been released already I probably would have bought it as I prefer the EF mount to the F mount..
 
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viggen61 said:
Ellen Schmidtee said:
Updating the lens after 5 years? That would be quick. Is having a superior 800mm lens that important to Canon?
+1

I'm sure having the best 800 is important to a lot of folks, but I dare say a lot more folks would rather see improvements to some of the more affordable white lenses, like the 300 f/4, 400 f/5.6, 100-400, and maybe give us a non-DO 400 f/4 for the masses...

I Agree >:( too
 
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RVB said:
I had this lens for 4years,I sold it to buy the new Nikon 800,the Nikon is far better than the Canon so i think any Canon user in the Market for an 800 will be glad to see this update,If it had been released already I probably would have bought it as I prefer the EF mount to the F mount..

Matte they will take a page from the 200-400 play book and incorporate a 1.4 TC into the lens. Then the lens would be close to, if not top, $20,000 -ouch
 
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I always wonder who buy such lenses :o Of course, I would like to try it (on 1dx, which I also do not have :) ) From practical reasons such lenses are too much expensive as well as I do not know any other application means except for bird photography (which is not paying off).

It would be very interesting to hear from people who own such lenses the reasons why they bought them and where they use them. I am 99% sure that nobody in my country (Lithuania) has such lenses.
 
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viggen61 said:
...maybe give us a non-DO 400 f/4 for the masses...

I'm not sure why this keeps coming up...a non-DO 400/4 will be the same diameter and a bit longer than the 200/2. It won't be 'for the masses,' unless you think 'the masses' can afford a lens that will cost well over $6,000. An 'affordable' 400mm lens will have an f/5.6 aperture, and there are two already (100-400L and 400/5.6), and hopefully we'll see updates to both soon.
 
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Ellen Schmidtee said:
Updating the lens after 5 years? That would be quick. Is having a superior 800mm lens that important to Canon?
Well, you could look at it that way.

Or you could be excited by the fact that this quick replacement means that Canon has yet again exceeded its own high bar. The original 800mm was sharper than the 600mm IS + 1.4x. Now that the 600mm IS II + 1.4x is sharper than the 800mm, not to mention lighter and has better IS. Currently there is absolutely no reason to buy the 800mm, since better IQ and greater versatility can be had with the 600mm and 1.4x III (for almost identical prices). Canon knows this and will update the 800mm accordingly.

I know only a very small minority will ever own or use this lenses, but it certainly shows Canon is able to surpass itself in a very short amount of time, and that should make all of us happy (except for the climbing retail prices on these new items).
 
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Efka76 said:
I always wonder who buy such lenses :o Of course, I would like to try it (on 1dx, which I also do not have :) ) From practical reasons such lenses are too much expensive as well as I do not know any other application means except for bird photography (which is not paying off).

It would be very interesting to hear from people who own such lenses the reasons why they bought them and where they use them. I am 99% sure that nobody in my country (Lithuania) has such lenses.

Paparazzi love these lenses.. check out the shots of Kate Middleton in her swimsuit on holiday in france,a lens like this was used.. and those shots earned a lot of money..
 
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neuroanatomist said:
viggen61 said:
...maybe give us a non-DO 400 f/4 for the masses...

I'm not sure why this keeps coming up...a non-DO 400/4 will be the same diameter and a bit longer than the 200/2. It won't be 'for the masses,' unless you think 'the masses' can afford a lens that will cost well over $6,000. An 'affordable' 400mm lens will have an f/5.6 aperture, and there are two already (100-400L and 400/5.6), and hopefully we'll see updates to both soon.

+1, and the 300mm f/2.8 II + 1.4xTC III is a supersharp 420/4 lens already, second only to the incredible 400/2.8 II
 
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My prediction record is perfect..... wrong every time :)

I stated that I doubt the "big lens" would be a 800F5.6 because of the shortages of big flourite elements.... or perhaps my wish for an upgraded 400F5.6 clouded my vision....
 
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I had a good feeling it would be the 800mm; as stated in an earlier thread. But they better make it appealing. Not just compete on par with the Nikon version, which by the way is heavier than the current Canon 800mm.

I don't know why it would need to be priced over the Nikon version. Since it uses elements that are smaller in diameter than the 600mm IS II. Less fluorite element should mean cheaper to produce. Also less material for the barrel, etc. But, more often than not these decisions make little sense.
 
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RVB said:
Efka76 said:
I always wonder who buy such lenses :o Of course, I would like to try it (on 1dx, which I also do not have :) ) From practical reasons such lenses are too much expensive as well as I do not know any other application means except for bird photography (which is not paying off).

It would be very interesting to hear from people who own such lenses the reasons why they bought them and where they use them. I am 99% sure that nobody in my country (Lithuania) has such lenses.

Paparazzi love these lenses.. check out the shots of Kate Middleton in her swimsuit on holiday in france,a lens like this was used.. and those shots earned a lot of money..

+1

LOL, for paparazzi, perverts and the CIA/NSA/FBI etc.
 
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KyleSTL said:
Ellen Schmidtee said:
Updating the lens after 5 years? That would be quick. Is having a superior 800mm lens that important to Canon?
Well, you could look at it that way.

Or you could be excited by the fact that this quick replacement means that Canon has yet again exceeded its own high bar.

....

I know only a very small minority will ever own or use this lenses

Which is exactly why I neither excited, nor give a rat's ass about Canon's ability to surpass itself in a very short amount of time.

I care about Canon releasing lenses I both want and can afford, which seems rarer & rarer on Canon's menu.
 
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