EOS 7D mrk. II

[ThomasN]

I have a very loose rumor about EOS 7D:

Vari-angle monitor 3" OLED 1.1 mil. pixels display (good in the sun)
Video 1080p mode with 30fps (or more) and Autofocus while filming
Live View WITH autofocus
Change able focusing screen (Rules of Thids)
21 mp with ISO 100-25600 (less noice)
Continuous shooting 12fps
Magnisium alloy body
Water resistant (Weathersealing)
19 AF points
Both CF and SD slots
2X Digic V
***
Wireless or possibility to use Eye FI SD-card

Can anybody verifi this?

BR
ThomasN

 

[Loswr]

Can anybody verifi this?

I can verify that Canon has never made a 'rule of thirds' focusing screen (they make grid screens, but the grids are more dense than that). Live View WITH autofocus? The current model does that. Bogus. But thanks for playing!

 

[ferdi]

If it is capable of 12 fps then nobody will buy the 1D Mark IV anymore.
Personally I'm hoping for an NTFS-like file system that supports files over 4 GB, and I expect more megapixels.

 

[Orangutan]

Personally I'm hoping for an NTFS-like file system that supports files over 4 GB

Not necessary: they could work around the limitation using a series of smaller files that could be merged externally. The big problem now is that the sensor overheats shooting video, and must be shut down until it cools off. Until the cooling problem is completely under control, file size is not the limitation.

 

[dstppy]

Can anybody verifi this?

I can verify that Canon has never made a 'rule of thirds' focusing screen (they make grid screens, but the grids are more dense than that). Live View WITH autofocus? The current model does that. Bogus. But thanks for playing!

Right, and ***? Heh. Someone got bored just to yank our chains. I wonder if people think by starting rumors that they'll actually get Canon to MAKE something that they WANT . . . sure hasn't helped with the 5dmk3

 

[EYEONE]

Personally I'm hoping for an NTFS-like file system that supports files over 4 GB

Not necessary: they could work around the limitation using a series of smaller files that could be merged externally. The big problem now is that the sensor overheats shooting video, and must be shut down until it cools off. Until the cooling problem is completely under control, file size is not the limitation.

Well you are right that the sensor can overheat but from my experience shooting video on the 7D and T2i I've always hit the 4gb limit before the heat limit. Actually, I've never hit the heat limit that I know of. When it hits the limit and stops recording I just start again and it continues. I would really like them to address the 4gb limit.

 

[gene_can_sing]

7D2 will probably be a while. Canon can't even do a 1D update, which is 1 year overdue. So, I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

[x-vision]

Can anybody verifi this?

No, this is a wish list.
The Digic V processor will likely handle very high data throughputs, so the 7DII won’t need dual Digic Vs, just a single one.
The other specs seem plausible, although I'm not sure Canon will take the risk of putting a flip-screen on a non-consumer camera.

 

[unfocused]

Someone got bored just to yank our chains. I wonder if people think by starting rumors that they'll actually get Canon to MAKE something that they WANT

this is a wish list.

Right and right. Almost anyone who reads this forum could come up with similar specifications. I doubt that Canon has even started to spec out the 7D II in any serious way. It's at least a year and two other models (5D and 1Ds) away from being released.

At this point their engineers and designers are still working through options and ideas, testing durability and consumer acceptance of features introduced on other models (flip screens). No doubt the 7D team is concentrating on the next generation of APS-C sensors, squeezing a bit more megapixels out while trying to reduce noise, increase ISO and improve dynamic range.

They will wait until the 1Ds and 5D are released and then allow some of the features in those models to trickle down to the 7D after about a year.

 

[Tarrum]

I say there is no need for these wish lists until we see what the 5D and 1Ds can do.

I personally want 18MP or a bit more if they decide to, 1 stop better noise performance, dual CF card slot.

You can forget about 12fps unless 1D series will shoot at 15fps+.

And I personally believe they have a few things already sorted out with the 7D, I'm guessing we're going to see it next September or early 2012. For now, the 7D is more than great in my hands.

 

[dr croubie]

If it is capable of 12 fps then nobody will buy the 1D Mark IV anymore.
Personally I'm hoping for an NTFS-like file system that supports files over 4 GB, and I expect more megapixels.

1) possibly true. but some people still buy 1ds3 years after 5d2 came out. (some people > nobody)
2) ReiserFS! it's free and it's open source! (sorry, my inner linux nerd wrote that)

 

[UncleFester]

If it is capable of 12 fps then nobody will buy the 1D Mark IV anymore.

They'd be 2 entirely different cameras still, and 12fps wouldn't convince me a 7DII was the better of the 2.

 

[Fleetie]

2) ReiserFS! it's free and it's open source! (sorry, my inner linux nerd wrote that)

ReiserFS might be free, but its creator isn't!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser (for those who weren't already aware!)


Martin

 

[lee_hom]

I wish your wish comes true

 

[skarstein]

As a cinematographer i would really like to see 1080P 60FPS and maybe 720P 120FPS. Full time auto-focus and ISO-levels with less noise would also be great.

 

[autochrome]

2) ReiserFS! it's free and it's open source! (sorry, my inner linux nerd wrote that)

ReiserFS might be free, but its creator isn't!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser (for those who weren't already aware!)




Martin

Reiser3FS is suited towards large quantities of small files, in the KB region. For images, specially RAW, SGI XFS is much more well suited to the task. It was created with the idea of having the fastest access possible to large series of identically (or relatively identical) sized files, in the MB region, such as 35mm motion picture frame scans. Also, after post-production (before the advent of all-digital, RED, digital projectors and so on), after all the post-production and visual effects work you would have to record the frames back to film and you needed a filesystem that would be able to keep up with the required data transfer rates - sustained data rates, not peak/burst data rates.
There are dozens of filesystems around, and just like any other factor, they might or might not be the best solution to the problem, it depends on the problem. If you want the fastest read and write access to large RAW files, then SGI XFS would be one of the top contenders, if not the top contender. If you want to be able to write a large continuous file, perhaps other solutions are more adequate, but this is seriously going off-topic and into a more technical discussion on the virtues and disadvantages of filesystems, so i'll stop here with a good reference for those with a more inquisitive mind:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems

Notice also that the requirements and behaviour of a filesystem depends also on the storage technology, an SSD or another memory technology device is quite different than a HDD.

 

[rcha101]

Something puzzles me about the Canon line up, all the entry level cameras are APS-C, the enthusiast cameras are APS-C (7D) and 5D MK2 (FF) and the professional is 1D (APS-H) and 1DS (FF).

With rumors of the 1D going, would it not make sense to make the 7D MK2 APS-H? This way you would have a clear progression from APS-C to APS-H to full frame.

I think an APS-H would give prosumer users a great camera at a great price point. There seems to be quite a gap between the 7D and the 5D MK2 and not much of a difference between the 60D and the 7D (roughly speaking).

Also, if Canon are going to bin the APS-H wouldn't it make sense to keep this investment in R&D and use it in another product?

 

[Admin US West]

Something puzzles me about the Canon line up, all the entry level cameras are APS-C, the enthusiast cameras are APS-C (7D) and 5D MK2 (FF) and the professional is 1D (APS-H) and 1DS (FF).

With rumors of the 1D going, would it not make sense to make the 7D MK2 APS-H? This way you would have a clear progression from APS-C to APS-H to full frame.

I think an APS-H would give prosumer users a great camera at a great price point. There seems to be quite a gap between the 7D and the 5D MK2 and not much of a difference between the 60D and the 7D (roughly speaking).

The 5D MK II is a professional camera aimed directly at wedding photographers. The kind that do this for a living. The 1D series is for professionals who need rugged bodies.

I'm sure that there are also many professionals who use 7D and XXD bodies, or even Rebel bodies.

My definition of professional is one that earns a living doing photography, not just someone who owns a $8,000 camera.

Also, if Canon are going to bin the APS-H wouldn't it make sense to keep this investment in R&D and use it in another product?

 

[ronderick]

Didn't Canon come up with that unthinkable 120 Megapixel CMOS sensor last year which was in the APS-H format? I guess that's Canon's way of maximizing its asset - by coming up with new prototypes usable for space exploration ;D

 

[unfocused]

With rumors of the 1D going, would it not make sense to make the 7D MK2 APS-H? This way you would have a clear progression from APS-C to APS-H to full frame.

I don't believe you will ever see Canon change sensor sizes within the same series (7D, 60D, 5D, etc.) The consumer confusion and anger it would create would be a marketing nightmare.

I personally don't see the APS-H format being around much longer in SLRs (It could be used, however, for specific applications such as security cameras). I believe that technology is overtaking the format. That is, gains in resolution are narrowing the gap between APS-C and Full Frame and the APS-H format occupies a shrinking niche. The marginal gain in quality may soon be insufficient to justify the expense and effort of maintaining the format.

As it stands, Canon's lens lineup does not support the format at the wide end. I think they will drop the APS-H format and shift sports and wildlife shooters to either APS-C or to a 1Ds model that offers sufficient resolution to allow in-camera 1.3 and 1.6 cropping.