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Examples of DR photos and why this is important to landscape shooters

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expatinasia said:
Like I say, I hate to be cynical but...

Well, reading about Canon's marketing ploys it's hard not go get a little cynical :-) ... concerning green screen pictures, this is really a problem because I often think a real world situations I see look likes cgi - but actually it's the other way around. My demand: ban green screen, I want to see the strings that holds the model like in the good ol' Star Trek days!
 
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Danielle said:
I guess I'd want to ask how many still shoot film and or how did you cope with only film. I coped just fine. *shrugs*

I think one source of much of the griping is that, while they improve every generation, digital sensors still have not caught up with good film in terms of DR... which I guess also ties into the question of 'how good is good enough?'. I think when senors are at least on-par with the high end films then there will be some tapering off of the desire for improvement.
 
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briansquibb said:
I have no problem with people buying either the D800 or the 5DIII. Just a question of personal choice, I am not going to try to get them to change their mind as I dont want people telling me what to buy, so I wont tell them.

The D800 and the 5D3 are quite different cameras that appeal to different types of users, they are so far apart that it is difficult to make a objective comparison.

ed zackery

add to that its getting really tiresome of all the ner ner ner ner the D800 is better posts filtering into every single thread so what if it is still doesnt make the 5Dmk3 bad and the bettererness is only marginal anyway
 
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scrappydog said:
Okay doke. Here are two shots demonstrating decent dynamic range. Both were shot with the 5D Mark II. Both were shot in the morning. The landscape shot was taken at 5am, and the monument shot was taken at 8am. At 12pm, both shots would be near impossible without HDR and/or a 3-stop ND grad because the shots would be approximately 3 stops short of what the 5D Mark III could handle. The Nikon has 2 stops (or more) of usable latitude, which would make the shots easier to handle (if shot later, when the latitude of the scene extends beyond what the camera can handle).

According to whom?

No electronic enhancements: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-d800-d800e/19
 
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scrappydog said:
Okay doke. Here are two shots demonstrating decent dynamic range. Both were shot with the 5D Mark II. Both were shot in the morning. The landscape shot was taken at 5am, and the monument shot was taken at 8am. At 12pm, both shots would be near impossible without HDR and/or a 3-stop ND grad because the shots would be approximately 3 stops short of what the 5D Mark III could handle. The Nikon has 2 stops (or more) of usable latitude, which would make the shots easier to handle (if shot later, when the latitude of the scene extends beyond what the camera can handle).

First image is perfect for HDR

Second image is perfect for flash

There a few occasions where there is too much light for iso50, f/16, 1/8000
 
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scrappydog said:
briansquibb said:
First image is perfect for HDR
Second image is perfect for flash
Neither is clipped.

HDR increases the DR o the image
Flash reduces the DR requirement by reducing the shadowss

This was taken on a sunny summer day using a lot of flash to overcome the sun
1DS3, iso 50, 1/2000, f/2.8
 

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wickidwombat said:
i think the OP wanted to see images indicating example of what all the drama is about relaing to DxO numbers

since this thread has hit 7 pages and no images have come forth it kind of proves what a non event the whole issue is :D

I am OP (and posted one landscape shot)

You hit the nail on the head. I don't own any ND filters, just the 5d2, 17-40L, and some UVs and cir polarizers. I need to invest in some ND grad filters and practice, practice, practice.

I agree there are too many chiefs and not enough indians on these forums. No offense to Native Americans. I wanted to see examples of shots that could benefit from better DR, or that demonstrated what DR could do. I guess my strategy got thrown out the window. Or did it get vomited into 8 pages? You be the judge...
 
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birdman said:
I agree there are too many chiefs and not enough indians on these forums. No offense to Native Americans. I wanted to see examples of shots that could benefit from better DR, or that demonstrated what DR could do. I guess my strategy got thrown out the window. Or did it get vomited into 8 pages? You be the judge...

I think you find that my last picture would have needed more DR due to the very bright contrast. My picture demonstrates how to avoid needing a much higher DR sensor
 
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