High-resolution EOS R Camera, Where are you?

[Canon Rumors Guy]

Since the EOS R system was announced back in Septmeber, 2018, there were constant rumors and reports about a 100mp (give or take) EOS R system camera in the pipeline. Once the EOS R5 was announced in 2020, the rumors and reports returned for a while and then it went quiet. We still continue to

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[YuengLinger]

If it were a great sensor with reasonable noise to deal with, would 100mp impact lens sales? If I can photograph a soccer game, say, with an RF 70-200mm and a 100mp sensor vs 45mp, would I be able to crop so tightly I could leave my 100-500mm at home?

The 45mp of the R5 is great for amateur sports. I can only imagine going with more mp.

 

[Maximilian]

Honestly, I cannot imagine working with more MP than the R5 has. And I am very pleased with the 24 MP my R6m2 has.
But for those eagerly waiting for 60+MP I hope you'll get it soon.
I am only interested in sensor performance and reviews of that MP beast

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Great!
This article means one is coming soon!

 

[Bob Howland]

The pixel pitch of my R7 is equivalent to an 84MP FF sensor. My EF Sigma 150-600 Sport lens works extremely well with the R7. The lens is something of a beast but that's mostly due to age.

 

[Flamingtree]

Honestly, I cannot imagine working with more MP than the R5 has. And I am very pleased with the 24 MP my R6m2 has.
But for those eagerly waiting for 60+MP I hope you'll get it soon.
I am only interested in sensor performance and reviews of that MP beast

Tell me about it. In a weird way I dread having to trawl through my r5 photos after wildlife photography. I turn the frame rate down to a lower setting, even then my computer crawls trying to review all the images.

For my uses I hope the r5 range stays at current resolution as an do everything camera and they make a seperate camera for those who want higher resolutions.

 

[David - Sydney]

There are about 10 R bodies currently (eos R seems to be discontinued on B&H) with R5ii and R1 to come. The niches are getting smaller.. a R5a would be nice but maybe a high mp body would sell more but would be more expensive.

Maybe implement a better ‘raw’ pixel shift in-camera image??

 

[amorse]

Me, whose been waiting since not long after the 5DIV release: “So you’re saying there’s a chance!”

 

[masterpix]

Since the EOS R system was announced back in Septmeber, 2018, there were constant rumors and reports about a 100mp (give or take) EOS R system camera in the pipeline. Once the EOS R5 was announced in 2020, the rumors and reports returned for a while and then it went quiet. We still continue to

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Just for the sake of asking, the current R5 has 45MP, with the new "sensor shift" it can go to to 400MP pictures (while objects don't move). I can understand that fashion needs a bit more than 45MP but the "common" person? I know that when I take a long shot of a bird it means that I have more to crop from, but then the optics has its limits. But when you go to such high MP images, any little error in the optics become visible making it rather useless.

 

[GMCPhotographics]

Honestly, I cannot imagine working with more MP than the R5 has. And I am very pleased with the 24 MP my R6m2 has.
But for those eagerly waiting for 60+MP I hope you'll get it soon.
I am only interested in sensor performance and reviews of that MP beast

I'm in the same situation. I'm very happy with the 24mp resolution and size of files. 45mp is a fiar bit larger and probably tests the Autio focus and lens sharpness a lot more. 100mp? I wonder how much of that just needs down smapling to bring the sharpness back? I could easily be wrong... and happy to be proved so.

 

[justaCanonuser]

Since the EOS R system was announced back in Septmeber, 2018, there were constant rumors and reports about a 100mp (give or take) EOS R system camera in the pipeline. Once the EOS R5 was announced in 2020, the rumors and reports returned for a while and then it went quiet. We still continue to

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A high-resolution EOS R is already available: the R7 has 85 MP (effective pixels) converted into full frame

 

[Fischer]

Tell me about it. In a weird way I dread having to trawl through my r5 photos after wildlife photography. I turn the frame rate down to a lower setting, even then my computer crawls trying to review all the images.

For my uses I hope the r5 range stays at current resolution as an do everything camera and they make a seperate camera for those who want higher resolutions.

The new generation cpu's and gpu's are just incredibly powerful. And storage has never been faster. Maybe time for an upgrade?

 

[EOS 4 Life]

Maybe implement a better ‘raw’ pixel shift in-camera image??

There would be no reason not to also implement that in a 100 MP camera.

 

[koenkooi]

A high-resolution EOS R is already available: the R7 has 85 MP (effective pixels) converted into full frame

I would like that to have a faster sensor readout, it would be around 1/20th of a second if it scales linearly with the amount of lines.

 

[whothafunk]

If it were a great sensor with reasonable noise to deal with, would 100mp impact lens sales? If I can photograph a soccer game, say, with an RF 70-200mm and a 100mp sensor vs 45mp, would I be able to crop so tightly I could leave my 100-500mm at home?

The 45mp of the R5 is great for amateur sports. I can only imagine going with more mp.

If you're an absolute amateur, yes, otherwise, no. R5 and other high MP cameras are OK only at really good sunlight. Plus you will not get any shallow DOP with the 200mm (even at 2.8) if the subject is 30, 40, 50 and more meters away.

 

[Fischer]

Want a high MPIX Canon R a lot - but have resigned to the likehood its never happening. If SONY does a 100 MPIX global shutter model I might make the switch. Small, light weight 300mm f/2.8 would be an added bonus. But that could also take forever to happen.

 

[GMCPhotographics]

One of the metrics that kept me away from the Canon mirrorless system for so long was the resolution of the new R series cameras was lower than the previous DSLR cameras. I rocked a pair of 5Diii's for a long time. I didn't see the mk4 as somehting was going to improve my work much. However, the 5Div compared to the (then new) R looked like the mk 4 was the better camera. When the R5 came a long, 45mp was a bit behind the 5Ds...although the rest of the camera was a massive improvement. The R6 was only 20mp and against the 22mp of my 5Diii...it felt like a step backwards. Which is why the R8 and R6ii were the cameras for me to upgrade to.
We don't know what resoution the new R5ii will be, some say it'll be the same or there abouts (45mp). Which is fine. But those who need to push the limits of sensor resolution...45mp might not be enough. So I understand the drive for a nuvo high MP, low fps camera. It's the last bastion of the DSLR days that's left, the 5Ds still slightly outresolves the R5.

 

[YuengLinger]

Just for the sake of asking, the current R5 has 45MP, with the new "sensor shift" it can go to to 400MP pictures (while objects don't move). I can understand that fashion needs a bit more than 45MP but the "common" person? I know that when I take a long shot of a bird it means that I have more to crop from, but then the optics has its limits. But when you go to such high MP images, any little error in the optics become visible making it rather useless.

These are reasonable concerns, but it wasn't too long ago that I thought 45mp could never be "clean" enough in low-light to be worthwhile.

And more mp does demand more processing power. I built a very fast system, choosing to go with air cooling rather than liquid. This meant using fans that get loud when loads are heavy (Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM). I have an R5 and an R6. Even when my kids are in other rooms pretty far from my office, they know when I'm processing R5 photos!

Still, if Canon can produce a 60mp+ sensor with IQ closely rivaling the one in the R5, more cropping options would be a huge temptation.

 

[amorse]

Just for the sake of asking, the current R5 has 45MP, with the new "sensor shift" it can go to to 400MP pictures (while objects don't move). I can understand that fashion needs a bit more than 45MP but the "common" person? I know that when I take a long shot of a bird it means that I have more to crop from, but then the optics has its limits. But when you go to such high MP images, any little error in the optics become visible making it rather useless.

The same was said about the 5Dsr when it was released, and I think I remember Canon even had a list of lenses which were considered as having optimal sharpness to support the sensor. The bottom line is while there can be diminishing returns on increasing resolution due to plenty of factors, there is still a measurable increase in detail, and for some, those trade offs make sense.

I don’t think a higher resolution camera is targeted at the “common” person - it’s a niche product, and I don’t see that kind of resolution becoming mainstream. The point of creating a product like that is to make money on the hand full of people who need/want an uncommon feature and aren’t going to buy what’s currently on offer instead, if there’s enough of those people for it to make financial sense to design/build the camera. Obviously Canon hasn’t felt the need to try and service the very high resolution market for a long time, which gives a bit of indication as to what they think demand for it would be. With that said, I really don’t think a lot of “common” people are spending upwards of $4k on cameras.

 

[justaCanonuser]

I'm in the same situation. I'm very happy with the 24mp resolution and size of files. 45mp is a fiar bit larger and probably tests the Autio focus and lens sharpness a lot more. 100mp? I wonder how much of that just needs down smapling to bring the sharpness back? I could easily be wrong... and happy to be proved so.

Pixel count is really overestimated, I am with you, 24 MP is perfect for full frame for most applications - if you do not need to crop severely. In fact I was really happy with the 22 MP of my 5D3 back then. Only in wildlife photography with tele lenses more resolution really makes sense, so you can crop. I decided to go for an R7 which gives me even more "reach" than a 45 MP FF camera, when I shoot wildlife. For other settings, my 5D4 with 30 MP is even more than I need. My wife still uses some of her old 12 MP Nikons. A3 photo prints from those cameras show rich details, so you could easily sell them to spec fanatics as prints from a 60 MP camera - they would believe it.