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If you've got a decent body and decent lenses, the next most important thing is-

LovePhotography

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So, I just got my Sigma 50 mm 1.4 Art lens and I'm comparing it to my Sigma 24-105 mm Art lens. And, honestly for $900, the difference is really minimal, and after you run it through just the most basic default DxO program, the difference almost completely disappears. I knew the 24-105mm was good, but thought I'd see a bigger difference. So, I was starting to agree with Ken Rockwell on equipment specifications. But, this weekend, I did something I almost never do, which is go out retail shopping, or at least window shopping, specifically to see what my pics would look like on a 4K screen. I put a couple of photographs on a thumb drive, and went to Best Buy, and plugged it into a couple of 4K TV's, including a Sony 65 inch X950B. Oh, my stars, you want to see something that makes an enormous difference in what you see in your photographs, try doing that! Not only was I able to see the intricacies in the grain on this table, I was able to see the *dust* on the table. It looked like I was looking at the table in real life, like I could reach out and touch it. I've spent a lot of money in the last 10 months on new camera stuff. Canon 6D, Canon 300mm 2.8 ii, 70-200mm 2.8 ii, Sigma Art lenses, wide-angles, teleconverters, etc. And, while the 300mm 2.8 is
*slightly* better than the 70-200 mm with 1.4 TC, for most photography,
(with objects not in the same focal plane being slightly out of focus), there
wasn't all that much difference. But, I can tell you, that without a doubt the
absolute biggest difference in looking at my photographs I have seen this year is *not* which lens I am using, it was this TV/monitor. And I haven't been using a bad monitor, a
one-year-old top-of-the-line Dell XPS 17 inch laptop, and, at home, a Samsung 55
inch 1080p 18-month-old TV. So, it now seems, if you've got an 18MP (or better) DSLR camera anything above, say, a T4i, and any fairly recent Canon L lenses, you don't need new camera equipment, you need a Sony 4K monitor (the Samsung, Sharp and LG had a tendency to blow out the highlights a wee bit). But, with the Sony, I was simply stunned. It was almost like the first time I saw a plasma TV 15 years ago. Now, I'd like to see what the difference between my Sigma 50 1.4 Art and Sigma 24-105 Art is like on the Sony TV...

http://optimagroup.smugmug.com/Brown-Co/i-GrnWcdN/A
 
My 27", 2560X1440 monitor is not bad for PP. Was thinking about 32" monitor with 4K as an upgrade. Plus brand new PC $2500+ to support 4k screen.

At the end, I'm putting that money toward to up coming L lenses and 1DX II
 
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View your photos on a 4K TV 65 inches, will be a similar experience to see your photos on your computer monitor with display at 100%. ???

Image detail will be evident, but chromatic aberration, camera shake, and other photo imperfections will also be obvious. :-X In practice, you can change your mind, and think that your lenses are now not as sharp as you thought they were. :-\
 
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LovePhotography said:
neuroanatomist said:
Pookie said:
Talent...

That should come first. ;)

After body and lenses, lighting gear and a good tripod.

Well, I think my post presumed people had basic gear. But, if you're going to be CDO, I guess I'd list a memory card before a tripod. 8)

Interesting that you think lighting gear (multiple flashes/monolights + modifiers, light stands, backdrop, etc.) and a good tripod (and ballhead, of course – not that Sunpak/Dolina with the pan/tilt head they bought at Walmart) are 'basic gear' for someone with 'a decent body and decent lenses.' I doubt that's a widely held viewpoint.
 
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Talent helps but you also need:
Definition of what it is you want to say with your art.
Dedication to learning and improving your technique.
Determination to be the absolute best that you can be.
Dysfunction enough to forsake all else in your life to attempt filling the hole in your soul with art.

Photographic gear is as a humble pencil to the artist. Inanimate and static without the hand to guide it.

I've got the pencil now all I need is a pad to draw on.
 
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ajfotofilmagem said:
View your photos on a 4K TV 65 inches, will be a similar experience to see your photos on your computer monitor with display at 100%. ???

Image detail will be evident, but chromatic aberration, camera shake, and other photo imperfections will also be obvious. :-X In practice, you can change your mind, and think that your lenses are now not as sharp as you thought they were. :-\

+1 if you don't view at 100% the sharpness difference will not be big - between similar quality lenses - so 4k or 1080p is the same, but when showing your photos to others the big resolution will help with good photos - 100% focus 0% shake
 
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Don Haines said:
neuroanatomist said:
Pookie said:
Talent...

That should come first. ;)

After body and lenses, lighting gear and a good tripod.
Good footwear.... and then get out there and walk. Photography is the art of seeing, so get out there!

Yeah good footwear is a top priority for outdoors, plus a shoulder strap, now I really know what you guys mean by heavy (5D III w/ 70-200 f/2.8 IS II + TC)
 
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If you have a good body and lens, the next things just take pictures. That will quickly reveal what else you need. Taking landscapes or close Ups? You might find a tripod to be important. Indoor people shots? Maybe a flash is in your future. Just take pictures. That's the only way to improve and see what else might work for you.
 
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I am not interested in a 4 K monitor. 8)
After the gear "more knowledge" about photography is most useful...the cool thing is...we can never learn it all!
For instance...if you are seeing "no difference" between your sigma 50mm Art and the 24-105mm please shoot with both of them with wide open apertures and you will see that the 50mm renders with this incredible slice of "in-focus" area with a beautiful background blur (isolating the subject), that the 24-105mm simply can't come close to.
The 50mm Art (a good copy), is a most wonderfully "unique" lens when used skillfully.
 
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1) learn how to compose
2) learn how to light
3) learn how to post-process your image

I would rate the above more important than the gears u have collected :)

If u only talk about gears, get lightroom & photoshop!
If u shoot portraits, get some studio strobes & softboxes.
 
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