Industry News: Leica announces their first true hybrid mirrorless camera, the Leica SL2-S

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Press Release: December 10, 2020 – Introducing the new Leica SL2-S, the perfect solution for anyone seeking outstanding imaging performance in both photography and video production from Leica. With its new 24 megapixel CMOS-BSI sensor and two separate recording modes for photos and videos, the Leica SL2-S offers the best of both mediums in one all-metal, state-of-the-art body built for long-term durability.
The Leica SL2-S expands the multi-faceted SL-System with a versatile full-frame camera that serves as the ideal option for creatives who seek the Leica Look in both still and motion pictures. With its high-speed shooting at continuous burst rates up to 25 frames per second at full resolution and its pro-level cinema capabilities encompassing 10-bit 4K and Cine4K video with no recording length limits, the SL2-S is the ideal choice to capture brilliant photographs and cinematic videos through an intuitive camera that is built to last...

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All for the low low price of:

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It's a nice looking camera. Not enough to it for the price, but it sure does look sharp.....
Hmnn, I don't know - it's obviously not cheap, but it starts to make the R5 look less value for money, and you can always use your EF glass on it (via an adaptor).

I'm not suggesting the R5 doesn't offer more bells and whistles (8k for example) as well as 45mp of course, compared to 'just' 24, so it is not exactly like-for-like, of course.

But if making 'photographic art' is your thing, and subject to specific use scenarios, it doesn't feel like such a stretch away, given what you're getting into. (And if you need more MP, then there is always the SL2 at 47pm - and an extra £500/$500).

Just a discussion thought... ;)
 
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Hmnn, I don't know - it's obviously not cheap, but it starts to make the R5 look less value for money, and you can always use your EF glass on it (via an adaptor).

I'm not suggesting the R5 doesn't offer more bells and whistles (8k for example) as well as 45mp of course, compared to 'just' 24, so it is not exactly like-for-like, of course.

But if making 'photographic art' is your thing, and subject to specific use scenarios, it doesn't feel like such a stretch away, given what you're getting into. (And if you need more MP, then there is always the SL2 at 47pm - and an extra £500/$500).

Just a discussion thought... ;)
The R5 needs to be thrown against the more expensive SL2 the price difference between the two Leica SL2 variants is £1300. The two cameras have a similar voicing but the sensor in the R5 is a generation ahead both in terms of AF performance or video features.

The R6 is more in line with the SL2-S yes, there are some cost savings regarding the EVF or screen but they offer very similar photo/video features and once again, that AF system on the Canon is just amazingly good.

Same with the lenses, Leica lenses are insanely expensive, yes RF glass is very expensive as well, but they are often faster for less money take a look at the Canon RF 50mm f/1.2L USM against the Leica APO-Summicron-SL 50mm f/2


So yeah, nice cameras and it is nice to see Leica starting to come out with more serious hybrid cameras, but apart from the overheating problems (which are probably going to appear in other hybrid cameras offering 8k or full sensor 4k60p, 4k120p etc.) Canon really has nothing to worry about especially having that full backwards compatiblity with EF lenses.
 

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Yeah, this one doesn't really float my boat.

I did, not long back, order the M10 Monochrom. Now, that has proven to be a VERY interesting camera and a lot of fun to shoot with.

It has some aspects I really like...in addition to having me shooting and thinking and seeing in B&W, it has some amazing low light capabilities.

And sharpness and imagery it produces....well, some shots seem almost medium format like, at least to my eye. It has a nice large sensor and I think will be useful for me for a long number of years.

But that has scratched my Leica itch....

I figure any tool for the job. I don't get religious over any camera brand. I have Canon, Leica (now) and Fuji as my digital cameras.

Heck I also enjoy shooting medium format film....again, a different tool or the job.

I enjoy Canon for my every day 35mm type digital stuff, action, concerts, etc.
I like my Fuji for digital medium format
I like my Leica...well, it's niche, but it is turning into my daily carry camera due to size and my enumeration with B&W.

And film is for well.....just when I wanna have fun and do something different....and those are all different formats...6x6, 9x9 and 6x17 (very wide pano)....

So, every tool for a job. This new Leica? Hard pass even if I had the money for it.

I don't see what scratch this is an itch for.
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Hmnn, I don't know - it's obviously not cheap, but it starts to make the R5 look less value for money, and you can always use your EF glass on it (via an adaptor).

I'm not suggesting the R5 doesn't offer more bells and whistles (8k for example) as well as 45mp of course, compared to 'just' 24, so it is not exactly like-for-like, of course.

But if making 'photographic art' is your thing, and subject to specific use scenarios, it doesn't feel like such a stretch away, given what you're getting into. (And if you need more MP, then there is always the SL2 at 47pm - and an extra £500/$500).

Just a discussion thought... ;)
This looks more like a re-packaged Lumix S5!
 
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Hmnn, I don't know - it's obviously not cheap, but it starts to make the R5 look less value for money, and you can always use your EF glass on it (via an adaptor).

I'm not suggesting the R5 doesn't offer more bells and whistles (8k for example) as well as 45mp of course, compared to 'just' 24, so it is not exactly like-for-like, of course.

But if making 'photographic art' is your thing, and subject to specific use scenarios, it doesn't feel like such a stretch away, given what you're getting into. (And if you need more MP, then there is always the SL2 at 47pm - and an extra £500/$500).

Just a discussion thought... ;)
I do realize this is a Canon forum but your comment makes more sense comparing this Leica to a similarly priced A9.
R5 seemingly crushes this camera in every respect but I have never shot with it.
 
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So yeah, nice cameras and it is nice to see Leica starting to come out with more serious hybrid cameras, but apart from the overheating problems (which are probably going to appear in other hybrid cameras offering 8k or full sensor 4k60p, 4k120p etc.) Canon really has nothing to worry about especially having that full backwards compatiblity with EF lenses.
Yes: wasn't meaning to suggest Canon had anything to worry about -far from it, the R5 looks like an amazing camera - my point (which could have been put better) was more that there was a time when Leica were a world away in price, whereas it feels they are becoming more competitive. (Again: not to suggest the SL2-2 matches the spec sheets for the R5)
 
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Hmnn, I don't know - it's obviously not cheap, but it starts to make the R5 look less value for money, and you can always use your EF glass on it (via an adaptor).

I'm not suggesting the R5 doesn't offer more bells and whistles (8k for example) as well as 45mp of course, compared to 'just' 24, so it is not exactly like-for-like, of course.

But if making 'photographic art' is your thing, and subject to specific use scenarios, it doesn't feel like such a stretch away, given what you're getting into. (And if you need more MP, then there is always the SL2 at 47pm - and an extra £500/$500).

Just a discussion thought... ;)

I am for whatever motivates you. It doesn't have to be the best bang for the buck, or the cheapest thing you can get by with.
 

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Yes: wasn't meaning to suggest Canon had anything to worry about -far from it, the R5 looks like an amazing camera - my point (which could have been put better) was more that there was a time when Leica were a world away in price, whereas it feels they are becoming more competitive. (Again: not to suggest the SL2-2 matches the spec sheets for the R5)
I agree about the body price, but what about the lenses? The pricing on those is just like old times with an AF system that is not cutting edge.
Using Panasonic and Sigma lenses would be a bit odd and some of them may not work very well.
Are people going to just adapt everything and focus manually?

By the way, the Panasonic S5 shows how small a camera can be with most of these same features retained, if they did something like that it would have been amazing, it was something many people wanted for years - but it might have been too close for comfort regarding their M line of cameras, I can see them pushing more towards the newer L-mount, but only slowly and progressively, like Canon did.
 

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I agree about the body price, but what about the lenses? The pricing on those is just like old times
Yes: good point - though you don't tend to hear many complaints about their lenses down the years.

Anyway, didn't want to come across too defensive on Leica - I'm a Canon-guy since the 1970's, I just also happen to like using Leica's away from work.

Enjoy.
 
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