Industry News: Nikon Teases Their Full Frame Mirrorless Camera & New Mount

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<iframe width="728" height="409" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZldXR313k4M" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>Nikon Europe has <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZldXR313k4M">posted a video on YouTube</a> that seems to tease the upcoming full frame mirrorless camera from Nikon, along with the rumored new “Z mount”.</p>
<p>If you <a href="https://youtu.be/ZldXR313k4M?t=1m5s">move forward to 1:05 in the video</a>, you’ll see what everyone is talking about.</p>
<p>Nikon Rumors is wondering if there’s more going on here.</p>
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<p dir="ltr" lang="en">I am just questioning my own rumors – could this be a medium format camera? This new mount is HUGE!<a href="https://t.co/NLj5JvVA91">https://t.co/NLj5JvVA91</a> <a href="https://t.co/wANUYeGuhr">pic.twitter.com/wANUYeGuhr</a></p>
<p>— Nikon Rumors (@nikonrumors) <a href="https://twitter.com/nikonrumors/status/1021268459391512576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2018</a></p></blockquote>
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<p>Specifications are after the break.</p>
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<p><strong>Nikon Full Frame Mirrorless Specifications</strong> (<a href="https://nikonrumors.com/2018/07/23/more-nikon-mirrorless-camera-rumors.aspx/">Nikon Rumors</a>):</p>
<ul>
<li>Official announcement in the next few weeks (still no exact/confirmed date).</li>
<li>Battery life is said to be worse than current Nikon DSLR cameras (obviously).</li>
<li>The biggest problem could be that Nikon may not be able to meet demand as production facilities are not yet ramped up after the restructuring. Again, just a rumor that may or may not turn out to be true.</li>
<li>Very good video AF features (no other details).</li>
<li>Video AF will be different for the two mirrorless models (the cheaper version may have less AF goodies).</li>
<li>AF tracking ability of the 45MP version on par with the current Sony A7 models.</li>
<li>Another price, this time from the UK (body only): 45MP about £2,400, 24MP about £1,700.</li>
<li>F-mount adaptor can be used with ANY Nikkor lens (G, E, <a href="https://nikonrumors.com/2017/09/03/lets-start-talking-about-the-upcoming-nikon-mirrorless-camera.aspx/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">I reported that a while back</a>),</li>
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criscokkat

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...So a new mount, Sony sensor with Nikon firmware, Sony video features combined with new controls and potentially a normal human sized ergonomic layout.

Could be a winner, if you are ok with buying new lenses.

Wonder if this will push any Canon announcements forward?
 

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...So a new mount, Sony sensor with Nikon firmware, Sony video features combined with new controls and potentially a normal human sized ergonomic layout.

Could be a winner, if you are ok with buying new lenses.

Wonder if this will push any Canon announcements forward?

The roumour says, that you don't need to buy a new lenses ....
 

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<iframe width="728" height="409" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZldXR313k4M" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>Nikon Europe has <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZldXR313k4M">posted a video on YouTube</a> that seems to tease the upcoming full frame mirrorless camera from Nikon, along with the rumored new “Z mount”.</p>
<p>If you <a href="https://youtu.be/ZldXR313k4M?t=1m5s">move forward to 1:05 in the video</a>, you’ll see what everyone is talking about.</p>
<p>Nikon Rumors is wondering if there’s more going on here.</p>
<div align="center">
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en">
<p dir="ltr" lang="en">I am just questioning my own rumors – could this be a medium format camera? This new mount is HUGE!<a href="https://t.co/NLj5JvVA91">https://t.co/NLj5JvVA91</a> <a href="https://t.co/wANUYeGuhr">pic.twitter.com/wANUYeGuhr</a></p>
<p>— Nikon Rumors (@nikonrumors) <a href="https://twitter.com/nikonrumors/status/1021268459391512576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2018</a></p></blockquote>
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<p>Specifications are after the break.</p>
<p><!--more--></p>
<p><strong>Nikon Full Frame Mirrorless Specifications</strong> (<a href="https://nikonrumors.com/2018/07/23/more-nikon-mirrorless-camera-rumors.aspx/">Nikon Rumors</a>):</p>
<ul>
<li>Official announcement in the next few weeks (still no exact/confirmed date).</li>
<li>Battery life is said to be worse than current Nikon DSLR cameras (obviously).</li>
<li>The biggest problem could be that Nikon may not be able to meet demand as production facilities are not yet ramped up after the restructuring. Again, just a rumor that may or may not turn out to be true.</li>
<li>Very good video AF features (no other details).</li>
<li>Video AF will be different for the two mirrorless models (the cheaper version may have less AF goodies).</li>
<li>AF tracking ability of the 45MP version on par with the current Sony A7 models.</li>
<li>Another price, this time from the UK (body only): 45MP about £2,400, 24MP about £1,700.</li>
<li>F-mount adaptor can be used with ANY Nikkor lens (G, E, <a href="https://nikonrumors.com/2017/09/03/lets-start-talking-about-the-upcoming-nikon-mirrorless-camera.aspx/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">I reported that a while back</a>),</li>
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The 45MP version could be my next camera, if the Canon equivalent doesn't take EF lenses. Especially if that launch price is correct.
 

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I don't think the mount is big, its just that the body is too small. With a tiny body, its hard to hold it, hard to push the tiny buttons, and the balance is off.

I was thinking of The Movie Star Trek Movie as I watched the commercial, seeming endless drifting thru space and very boring.
 

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Mt Spokane Photography said:
I don't think the mount is big, its just that the body is too small. With a tiny body, its hard to hold it, hard to push the tiny buttons, and the balance is off.

I was thinking of The Movie Star Trek Movie as I watched the commercial, seeming endless drifting thru space and very boring.

I think you are correct. The body is just smaller. It says it in the last tag line "In pursuit of light" or lightweight ;)
 

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I was talking to a Nikon pro and based upon his comments (I believe he has a good grip on Nikon's future products, but could not tell me any details), his current lenses will work on their new Mirrorless body.
 

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Looks like Nikon went for really small body. I hope Canon doesn't do that.
 

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Skimming through some past Nikon Rumors posts, it sounds like the mount had to be larger to accommodate some fast lenses Nikon is planning.

As with Canon (If they push out a new mount), all existing Nikon lenses will work via an adapter.

I'm very curious to see what Nikon releases. If they have in-body stabilization as predicted, I suspect they may offer a few pancake-type prime lenses with no IS in order to minimize the size. I could see Canon going this route as well.

It also seems as though these new mirrorless cameras really emphasize video. I wonder if Canon and Nikon did market research and found that the biggest threat was from video users, not stills shooters. I only say that because the one person I know who switched from Canon to Sony was a video guy. And, yes...I know that sample sizes of one are not useful for anything but forum posts.
 
Mt Spokane Photography said:
I don't think the mount is big, its just that the body is too small. With a tiny body, its hard to hold it, hard to push the tiny buttons, and the balance is off.

I was thinking of The Movie Star Trek Movie as I watched the commercial, seeming endless drifting thru space and very boring.
Agree 100%. I was watching the video and thinking what in the world is this? If I had run across it elsewhere (and not know it was a camera ad) I would have stopped watching after about ten seconds (and now wish I had).

I also think the body will be small which is why the mount looks big. I wonder who will buy this (or upcoming Canon version)? Doesn't everyone who wants something like this already own Sony?
 

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unfocused said:
Skimming through some past Nikon Rumors posts, it sounds like the mount had to be larger to accommodate some fast lenses Nikon is planning.

As with Canon (If they push out a new mount), all existing Nikon lenses will work via an adapter.

I'm very curious to see what Nikon releases. If they have in-body stabilization as predicted, I suspect they may offer a few pancake-type prime lenses with no IS in order to minimize the size. I could see Canon going this route as well.

It also seems as though these new mirrorless cameras really emphasize video. I wonder if Canon and Nikon did market research and found that the biggest threat was from video users, not stills shooters. I only say that because the one person I know who switched from Canon to Sony was a video guy. And, yes...I know that sample sizes of one are not useful for anything but forum posts.

Sigh...and it all comes full circle. Who would have thought video users should be a target audience for Canon/Nikon hybrid stills cams?

Oh, right- that was us, the 4K / video proponents who everyone on this forum has called trolls or crazy for years. ::)

I'm not saying anything :-X :)
 

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ken said:
Looks like Nikon went for really small body. I hope Canon doesn't do that.

Small body with a BIG grip, which is the way to go for pro MILC. Fuji has discovered this with their X-H1 series as well (although their body is not that small).
 

transpo1

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criscokkat said:
...So a new mount, Sony sensor with Nikon firmware, Sony video features combined with new controls and potentially a normal human sized ergonomic layout.

Could be a winner, if you are ok with buying new lenses.

Wonder if this will push any Canon announcements forward?

Oh, it will push them to do something- whether to hold with current announcement timing or push up. Nikon just rattled a few cages. Guaranteed there were a bunch of meetings on this at Canon today :)
 

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transpo1 said:
criscokkat said:
...So a new mount, Sony sensor with Nikon firmware, Sony video features combined with new controls and potentially a normal human sized ergonomic layout.

Could be a winner, if you are ok with buying new lenses.

Wonder if this will push any Canon announcements forward?

Oh, it will push them to do something- whether to hold with current announcement timing or push up. Nikon just rattled a few cages. Guaranteed there were a bunch of meetings on this at Canon today :)

I don’t know, maybe. The video didn’t really show anything useful. The rumored specs are what about what’s expected too, as are the prices, pretty much, though those are usually wrong.
 

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ken said:
Looks like Nikon went for really small body. I hope Canon doesn't do that.
I'd actually prefer a small body. Considering that there appears to be more than one mirrorless camera coming, I'm really hoping at least one of them is size/weight conscious - different systems for different needs. I definitely agree though that there needs to be a replacement with proper ergonomics for many (probably most) users.

For me though, I'd happily take slower lenses (as long as other performance measures are kept in check - i.e. sharpness and chromatic aberration) to bring the size/weight down and would be willing to lose some ergonomics to achieve that.
 

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MrFotoFool said:
Mt Spokane Photography said:
I don't think the mount is big, its just that the body is too small. With a tiny body, its hard to hold it, hard to push the tiny buttons, and the balance is off.

I was thinking of The Movie Star Trek Movie as I watched the commercial, seeming endless drifting thru space and very boring.
Agree 100%. I was watching the video and thinking what in the world is this? If I had run across it elsewhere (and not know it was a camera ad) I would have stopped watching after about ten seconds (and now wish I had).

I also think the body will be small which is why the mount looks big. I wonder who will buy this (or upcoming Canon version)? Doesn't everyone who wants something like this already own Sony?

It will probably be about the size of Samsung's NX1, just with a larger mount to fit FF.
 

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transpo1 said:
criscokkat said:
...So a new mount, Sony sensor with Nikon firmware, Sony video features combined with new controls and potentially a normal human sized ergonomic layout.

Could be a winner, if you are ok with buying new lenses.

Wonder if this will push any Canon announcements forward?

Oh, it will push them to do something- whether to hold with current announcement timing or push up. Nikon just rattled a few cages. Guaranteed there were a bunch of meetings on this at Canon today :)


Canon likely knew all about it months ago.
 

transpo1

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Tugela said:
transpo1 said:
criscokkat said:
...So a new mount, Sony sensor with Nikon firmware, Sony video features combined with new controls and potentially a normal human sized ergonomic layout.

Could be a winner, if you are ok with buying new lenses.

Wonder if this will push any Canon announcements forward?

Oh, it will push them to do something- whether to hold with current announcement timing or push up. Nikon just rattled a few cages. Guaranteed there were a bunch of meetings on this at Canon today :)


Canon likely knew all about it months ago.

Definitely possible! But I wonder if Nikon moved up the timing of this tease for some reason...