• UPDATE



    The forum will be moving to a new domain in the near future (canonrumorsforum.com). I have turned off "read-only", but I will only leave the two forum nodes you see active for the time being.

    I don't know at this time how quickly the change will happen, but that will move at a good pace I am sure.

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Interview: Masaya Maeda of Canon Japan

jrista said:
There is nothing more important in photography than having the equipment that fulfills your own personal needs. You can either bitch and moan about Canon's inferiorities, or lack therof, on an internet forum...or you can buy the equipment that fulfills your needs. I decided to stop debating. I have found better products from different brands that fulfill my own personal needs, and I have NO problem telling other people that there are options out there, other than Canon, that could fill their personal needs. It's as simple as that.

Your either a raging fanboy who will defend a BRAND to the last, or your a photographer. I used to be a raging fanboy, on your side, defending Canon to the bitter end. Today? I'm a photographer. I could care less about brands anymore. The thing that matters is whether the camera in your hands is delivering the image quality and functionality you want...or not. Simple fact of the matter is, Canon cameras deliver what I need for birds and wildlife at longer focal lengths and higher ISO, and other brands deliver what I need for low ISO work, everyday photography, macro, etc. If the 5D IV pans out to really be a 9fps high frame rate, high resolution, high ISO beast, I'll pick one up in a heartbeat, because that's what I need, and I have more than enough compute hardware to handle gobs of large images. I've given up on Canon for delivering what I need on the low ISO front. They can offer as many megapixels as they want...every pixel in a Sony, Nikon or Samsung camera is more capable of delivering what I want...so they get my money for my low ISO needs.

It's not a complicated equation. It's not something that we need to have wars over. If for, say, MSM, Canon is not delivering what he needs...there are some AWESOME cameras out there that absolutely will, and for some damn good prices.

You "decided to stop debating". Really!? Disingenuous much? Let me read that back again: "I decided to stop debating." Wow.

And you have "NO problem telling other people there are other options out there, other than Canon ..." Let me suggest that you not only have "no problem" telling other people that, but that you have made it a PERSONAL MISSION to tell other people that. I wouldn't be surprised if it's on your Daily To Do list. Like, "Oh it's Monday ... another day of of telling people on a Canon forum about the the wondrous benefits of shooting with Sony/Nikon sensors."

It would be as if I checked into Nikon and Sony forums every day and told them — every day — about the superiority of certain Canon lenses that don't exist in their systems, or about how they need not "bitch and moan" about the inferiorities of their system's ergonomics or flash systems if they only "ditched" those systems and switched to Canon. What a waste of time that would be.
 
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zlatko said:
jrista said:
There is nothing more important in photography than having the equipment that fulfills your own personal needs. You can either bitch and moan about Canon's inferiorities, or lack therof, on an internet forum...or you can buy the equipment that fulfills your needs. I decided to stop debating. I have found better products from different brands that fulfill my own personal needs, and I have NO problem telling other people that there are options out there, other than Canon, that could fill their personal needs. It's as simple as that.

Your either a raging fanboy who will defend a BRAND to the last, or your a photographer. I used to be a raging fanboy, on your side, defending Canon to the bitter end. Today? I'm a photographer. I could care less about brands anymore. The thing that matters is whether the camera in your hands is delivering the image quality and functionality you want...or not. Simple fact of the matter is, Canon cameras deliver what I need for birds and wildlife at longer focal lengths and higher ISO, and other brands deliver what I need for low ISO work, everyday photography, macro, etc. If the 5D IV pans out to really be a 9fps high frame rate, high resolution, high ISO beast, I'll pick one up in a heartbeat, because that's what I need, and I have more than enough compute hardware to handle gobs of large images. I've given up on Canon for delivering what I need on the low ISO front. They can offer as many megapixels as they want...every pixel in a Sony, Nikon or Samsung camera is more capable of delivering what I want...so they get my money for my low ISO needs.

It's not a complicated equation. It's not something that we need to have wars over. If for, say, MSM, Canon is not delivering what he needs...there are some AWESOME cameras out there that absolutely will, and for some damn good prices.

You "decided to stop debating". Really!? Disingenuous much? Let me read that back again: "I decided to stop debating." Wow.

And you have "NO problem telling other people there are other options out there, other than Canon ..." Let me suggest that you not only have "no problem" telling other people that, but that you have made it a PERSONAL MISSION to tell other people that. I wouldn't be surprised if it's on your Daily To Do list. Like, "Oh it's Monday ... another day of of telling people on a Canon forum about the the wondrous benefits of shooting with Sony/Nikon sensors."

It would be as if I checked into Nikon and Sony forums every day and told them — every day — about the superiority of certain Canon lenses that don't exist in their systems, or about how they need not "bitch and moan" about the inferiorities of their system's ergonomics or flash systems if they only "ditched" those systems and switched to Canon. What a waste of time that would be.


Wow, touchy. Zlatko...I have one recommendation for you: Put CanonRumors away, take out your camera, get in the car and drive somewhere REAL, and start photographing.


The only waste of time here is you getting irate over what someone said about a brand of camera on the internet. What value does that hold? If you like and prefer your Canon gear, GREAT! Get out there an use it! What enjoyment do you get out of freaking out on an internet form about brand wars? In contrast, how much enjoyment do you get out of your photograpghy?


Similarly, and the reason I responded...if your Canon gear gets you down for any reason, because it lacks A or B? Go find another camera that DOESN'T lack A or B.


I used to be on these forums every single day. I used to fight with all the anti-Canon guys saying how much better other cameras were. Then I had some first hand experience with the differences, and started fighting with all the die-hard Canon fans. Not one single minute of those debates was worth a damn thing. The only thing that is worth anything is getting out there and making some photographs. The only thing I can say on these forums that is worth anything is: Get off CR, go grab your gear (whatever brand it is), go photograph something. Brand doesn't matter. It's all personal choice. Debating whether A or B is better does nothing for anyone. If you are frustrated with brand A, look at brand B, C, D, and E and see if they have what you need. As I said...simple equations.


And with that...hoping you actually do get out and do some photography (even astrophotography, if it's night wherever you live) and unwind from the hateful pit that is CanonRumors forums...good night, Zlatko.
 
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jrista said:
zlatko said:
jrista said:
There is nothing more important in photography than having the equipment that fulfills your own personal needs. You can either bitch and moan about Canon's inferiorities, or lack therof, on an internet forum...or you can buy the equipment that fulfills your needs. I decided to stop debating. I have found better products from different brands that fulfill my own personal needs, and I have NO problem telling other people that there are options out there, other than Canon, that could fill their personal needs. It's as simple as that.

Your either a raging fanboy who will defend a BRAND to the last, or your a photographer. I used to be a raging fanboy, on your side, defending Canon to the bitter end. Today? I'm a photographer. I could care less about brands anymore. The thing that matters is whether the camera in your hands is delivering the image quality and functionality you want...or not. Simple fact of the matter is, Canon cameras deliver what I need for birds and wildlife at longer focal lengths and higher ISO, and other brands deliver what I need for low ISO work, everyday photography, macro, etc. If the 5D IV pans out to really be a 9fps high frame rate, high resolution, high ISO beast, I'll pick one up in a heartbeat, because that's what I need, and I have more than enough compute hardware to handle gobs of large images. I've given up on Canon for delivering what I need on the low ISO front. They can offer as many megapixels as they want...every pixel in a Sony, Nikon or Samsung camera is more capable of delivering what I want...so they get my money for my low ISO needs.

It's not a complicated equation. It's not something that we need to have wars over. If for, say, MSM, Canon is not delivering what he needs...there are some AWESOME cameras out there that absolutely will, and for some damn good prices.

You "decided to stop debating". Really!? Disingenuous much? Let me read that back again: "I decided to stop debating." Wow.

And you have "NO problem telling other people there are other options out there, other than Canon ..." Let me suggest that you not only have "no problem" telling other people that, but that you have made it a PERSONAL MISSION to tell other people that. I wouldn't be surprised if it's on your Daily To Do list. Like, "Oh it's Monday ... another day of of telling people on a Canon forum about the the wondrous benefits of shooting with Sony/Nikon sensors."

It would be as if I checked into Nikon and Sony forums every day and told them — every day — about the superiority of certain Canon lenses that don't exist in their systems, or about how they need not "bitch and moan" about the inferiorities of their system's ergonomics or flash systems if they only "ditched" those systems and switched to Canon. What a waste of time that would be.


Wow, touchy. Zlatko...I have one recommendation for you: Put CanonRumors away, take out your camera, get in the car and drive somewhere REAL, and start photographing.


The only waste of time here is you getting irate over what someone said about a brand of camera on the internet. What value does that hold? If you like and prefer your Canon gear, GREAT! Get out there an use it! What enjoyment do you get out of freaking out on an internet form about brand wars? In contrast, how much enjoyment do you get out of your photograpghy?


Similarly, and the reason I responded...if your Canon gear gets you down for any reason, because it lacks A or B? Go find another camera that DOESN'T lack A or B.


I used to be on these forums every single day. I used to fight with all the anti-Canon guys saying how much better other cameras were. Then I had some first hand experience with the differences, and started fighting with all the die-hard Canon fans. Not one single minute of those debates was worth a damn thing. The only thing that is worth anything is getting out there and making some photographs. The only thing I can say on these forums that is worth anything is: Get off CR, go grab your gear (whatever brand it is), go photograph something. Brand doesn't matter. It's all personal choice. Debating whether A or B is better does nothing for anyone. If you are frustrated with brand A, look at brand B, C, D, and E and see if they have what you need. As I said...simple equations.


And with that...hoping you actually do get out and do some photography (even astrophotography, if it's night wherever you live) and unwind from the hateful pit that is CanonRumors forums...good night, Zlatko.

So after you've harped on and on about the benefits of Sony/Nikon sensors on a Canon forum, your advice — repeated in FOUR variations in that one reply — is to "actually do get out and do some photography". Perhaps that advice is indirectly intended for yourself? I do plenty of photography, thank you. It's what I do for a living, and it gives me great enjoyment. I photograph nearly every day, and when I'm not photographing I'm working on the photographs I've taken or talking with clients about their photography needs. I do enough photography to know how absurd it is to harp about one brand's sensors on a forum dedicated to another brand. That's just absurd.
 
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