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Lost half of my Canon DSLR
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Hi Dylan.
Where are you located, roughly, it occurs to me that there are that many people on here some must be near you, they could perhaps spread the word about and look out for your gear. Not suggesting anyone put themselves at risk, but could report to authorities if they spot anything? Just a thought, I would if I was near you.
Cheers, Graham.
Where are you located, roughly, it occurs to me that there are that many people on here some must be near you, they could perhaps spread the word about and look out for your gear. Not suggesting anyone put themselves at risk, but could report to authorities if they spot anything? Just a thought, I would if I was near you.
Cheers, Graham.
Dylan777 said:
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Dylan, I think Graham has a good idea, and you might want to check Craigslist as well. We have had a major rash of car break ins in my neighborhood and I know in at least one case a victim's stolen property ended up on Craigslist. The victim notified the police about the listing, who (I assume) set up a fake buy to get the suspect.
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Luds34 said:
Thanks for the kind words and support. I count myself extremely lucky. Even the pawn shop guy was amazed that this camera was pawned with a serial number and not simply sold on the street, etc. And if he hadn't been gone that day he would have stopped the rookie employee from buying it due to the suspicious nature of the deal.
I NEVER have strangers to my house. I don't want them to know where I live or what I own. I certainly don't want to be selling high end cameras to strangers and then show them where they could get more after they case the place. Fortunately, our schedules here are so random that there is almost always someone here and our routine is rarely the same from day to day.
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sagittariansrock said:
I know the pain Dylan has suffered over the loss of his gear to thieves, and also the mistake of not insuring expensive camera equipment. My wife and I left Florida for some time in the mountains, and I forgot to pack the camera gear in the car. I wasn't going to drive back 8 hours to get it, as we were only going to be gone for around 2 weeks. I had left my camera bag, tripod and monopod right at the door to the garage. When we returned the house was a mess, the camera gear, some cash, a very good Omega watch and several firearms were gone. The crooks left me an empty rum bottle on the floor. Good luck in getting prints, as to identify prints at the FBI lab required a list of no more than 10 suspects to compare them to. This was 6 years ago so procedure may have changed. We had inadequate insurance to cover the loss, but no insurance could have replaced or compensated for the two cards with the only photos of my dad's 90th birthday party. Every living member of Dad's side of the family was there.
I wept and grieved over the loss of the two cards, and would have gladly paid anything for their return, even if all the other stuff was lost. I could replace the things, but not the pictures on those two cards. I got lucky a couple of years later when, long story shortened, one of the crooks had a relative pawn the camera gear and watch at a shop which alerted me through an intermediary. I BOUGHT my own things back, otherwise the shop would have remained anonymous and I wouldn't have gotten the cards.
I felt the same sense of helplessness, anger, and violation others have described after being victimized. I even gave up photography for 6 years out of the disgust I had over the ordeal. I have now gotten my photo desire going again, just in time for a new crop of gear to rev up my GAS.
I am able to say that two years buried in the earth in a Lowe bag protected my gear pretty well. A 5d, 24-70/2.8, 70-200/2.8, 1.4 EXII extender, gitzo 226, a pistol, and other assorted goodies suffered no more than one minor rust spot (pistol), and a musty/earthy smell that took a couple of years to go away. The pain will never be forgotten.
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Oldcracker said:
tpatana, you should know that the use of deadly force in response to a property crime is legally prohibited. Texas excepted (although their law is not limitless either). See TEX PE. CODE ANN. § 9.42.
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Mitch.Conner said:
It wasn't tpatana, it was me apparently misusing the response pane. But here in Florida, we have this "stand your ground" law that many attorneys have been trying to interpret as allowing very wide leeway in the use of deadly force. And courts have been buying into allowing just that, the permissible use of deadly force in property crimes. It's more of a "you don't have to back down" kind of thing. I'm just the messenger here, the wide use of deadly force outside of the protection of life or physical well being is pretty frightening in a lot of ways.
I apologize to the mods if I've overstepped bounds and this belongs in a political discussion. It's understandable for people who have been the victims of burglary, in particular, to feel so vulnerable that they sound a little over the top in response.
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Oldcracker said:
It is kind of off topic, but I have to mention this law made it into all German newspapers advising tourists not to approach a Florida citizen in his/her car because he/she can legally shoot yourself dead if feeling threatened - and who wouldn't, with peculiar foreigners walking about?
However, it doesn't help with home theft while you're not there - but some people do try to find innovative solutions. In my hometown, someone recently wired high voltage to his door to kill any burglar. Alas, he forgot to turn it off some time and got fried himself, getting in line for the Darwin Award.
But it's interesting to know what another poster wrote above - if these pro burglars don't get safely in and out in 5 mins, they'll try elsewhere. In this case, it would mean that some more break-in security and not having your gear conveniently placed in a nice camera bag might help.
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No disrespect to Dylan here, but I have to comment on this one. As a Florida resident who works with law enforcement and lawyers (but is not a lawyer and this is not legal advice), I can say that Stand Your Ground has absolutely nothing to do with protecting one's property. It is simply means you do not have to retreat when threatened. It is an extension of the Castle Doctrine, which is a legal concept that says you do not have to retreat from your home if someone enters it and threatens you. Use of Deadly Force has not changed. It can only be used to prevent or stop forcible felonies (e.g., armed robbery, rape, kidnapping) or to prevent loss of life of you or another person (as in your own murder or murder of others). In the home, this is pretty much assumed, but outside of the home you will have to prove it.Marsu42 said:
If you live in the US and don't live in Texas and you use deadly force to kill someone who is only stealing your property, you will very likely go to prison for a very long time (ref: 10-20-Life rule in Florida).
Also, Marsu, as Florida sees more tourists than most states and some of these cases have made headlines, I can see why the news would report that. Many other states have similar laws and have had them far longer than Florida. The reality is that as more people in Florida have obtained weapons permits (through background checks and training, etc.) the crime has gone down.
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Yes I am a Florida resident too, indeed I live in the same county as the most famous 'stand your ground' case, that wasn't. Zimmerman never invoked the stand your ground defense, he used self defense as his defense.
On a side note, I come from the UK, where gun ownership was always low and now nearly nonexistent and I was robbed several times, I now live where weekend gunfire for target practice sometimes sounds like downtown Aleppo, I live outside city limits and shooting on your own property is permitted. There is zero crime in my neighborhood.
On a side note, I come from the UK, where gun ownership was always low and now nearly nonexistent and I was robbed several times, I now live where weekend gunfire for target practice sometimes sounds like downtown Aleppo, I live outside city limits and shooting on your own property is permitted. There is zero crime in my neighborhood.
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privatebydesign said:
Thanks for clarifying, guys. I do hope you know that I wasn't making a statement against Florida, but simply stating how this law was reported on over here not only in the yellow press. (I certainly won't comment on the the right to carry guns, as this the "political" topic that indeed is bound to cause unrest). Probably this intense new coverage is part of the love-hate relationship, and of course on the top pages as many people are tourists and know Florida. I always enjoy looking at mackguyver's Florida shots, I've been there three times and recognize a lo
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Marsu42 said:mackguyver said:
privatebydesign said:
Thanks for clarifying, guys. I do hope you know that I wasn't making a statement against Florida, but simply stating how this law was reported on over here not only in the yellow press. (I certainly won't comment on the the right to carry guns, as this the "political" topic that indeed is bound to cause unrest). Probably this intense new coverage is part of the love-hate relationship, and of course on the top pages as many people are tourists and know Florida. I always enjoy looking at mackguyver's Florida shots, I've been there three times and recognize a lo
Hey I didn't think you were making a judgement Marsu, but there are a lot of crazy people in Florida
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