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Lots of EOS 5D Mark IV Talk, None of it Reliable

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We’re getting a lot of comments about the upcoming EOS 5D Mark IV, none of which I’d consider reliable. There have been lots of suggestions that Canon will launch the camera before the Photography Show which runs from March 19, 2016 until March 22, 2016 in Birmingham, UK. I think most suggestions are based on the fact that this was the first show that the EOS  5D Mark III was showcased at, however it was launched via a massively marketed global campaign, and was not announced <em>FOR </em>the show.</p>
<p>The most reliable information I currently have about the announcement date is that it will come after the EOS-1D X Mark II begins shipping, no other reliable source has disagreed with this.</p>
<p>The specification lists I’ve seen out there are likely conjecture. There seems to be a ton of clickbait articles about the EOS  5D Mark IV being passed around, and this is the first time I’ve seen these sorts of things for a camera launch.</p>
<p>There will be lots of talk about the EOS 5D Mark IV leading up to NAB in April, and I expect some information to make its way out during that time.</p>
<p>We’ll be attending NAB this year and will once again team up with Planet5D for the multi-site live blog, that I hope to actually post to this time. :)</p>
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Since when has canon EVER launched a camera at NAB?

"The most reliable information I currently have about the announcement date is that it will come after the EOS-1D X Mark II begins shipping, no other reliable source has disagreed with this."

seems a little ridiculous considering they didn't care the last go around when the 5D Mark III shipped before the 1DX.

not to mention odds are the C500 Mark II is coming out and is canon's crowning jewel at NAB this year.
 
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dilbert said:
rrcphoto said:
Since when has canon EVER launched a camera at NAB?

"The most reliable information I currently have about the announcement date is that it will come after the EOS-1D X Mark II begins shipping, no other reliable source has disagreed with this."

seems a little ridiculous considering they didn't care the last go around when the 5D Mark III shipped before the 1DX.
If you read some of the other rumors regarding the 5DX then it would appear that Canon has learnt from that and the manner in which the 1DX/5D3 were announced/released is considered to be a mistake that cost Canon sales of the more expensive 1DX. Canon's goal is to learn from that mistake...
Any reason you are referring to it as 5DX instead of 5D4? Do you really believe Canon will name it 5DX?
 
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rrcphoto said:
Since when has canon EVER launched a camera at NAB?

"The most reliable information I currently have about the announcement date is that it will come after the EOS-1D X Mark II begins shipping, no other reliable source has disagreed with this."

seems a little ridiculous considering they didn't care the last go around when the 5D Mark III shipped before the 1DX.

1DX was announced much earlier in October 2011 and was supposed to ship April 2012 and then delayed for what ever reason until June 2012. Given 1DX II will be shipping in 3-5 weeks, why would Canon announce 5DX before then?
 
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tron said:
Any reason you are referring to it as 5DX instead of 5D4? Do you really believe Canon will name it 5DX?

Because that's what it is to be called. Already been told by Canon employee testing the new camera they are dropping the mk IV name for 5DX, and that's as much as they would say, not even a hint at what specs were coming.
 
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tron said:
Any reason you are referring to it as 5DX instead of 5D4? Do you really believe Canon will name it 5DX?

Why not? Any reason why they named their power shots G1X, G3X, G5X???
I think that canon likes the 'X' moniker and will give any model that 'X' when they think it's time???
 
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Mr Majestyk said:
rrcphoto said:
Since when has canon EVER launched a camera at NAB?

"The most reliable information I currently have about the announcement date is that it will come after the EOS-1D X Mark II begins shipping, no other reliable source has disagreed with this."

seems a little ridiculous considering they didn't care the last go around when the 5D Mark III shipped before the 1DX.

1DX was announced much earlier in October 2011 and was supposed to ship April 2012 and then delayed for what ever reason until June 2012.

Massive issues following on from the 2011 tsunami.........
 
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My gut feeling is that Canon is moving the 5DX up the line with more and better technology. I "see" features of the 1D X II being incorporated that bring it to an affordable alternative to the top of the line. Besides the ***, I think the FPS will be a bit higher and a touch screen added. If the DR doesn't improve, sales will suck. I'm willing to bet that it will come close to the 1D X II. As far as MP go, I think it will be about the same as the 5D III but dual pixel. Canon could use the same chip as the 1D X II, saving costs, but that might be one step too far and give the 1D X II too much competition. Maybe a detuned version of the same design.
 
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I doubt it will be called 5DX myself as the 1DX was the merging of two different lines.

Although for other reasons, the only other Canon camera I see getting that moniker may be the 7D series as they are the best of the APSC bodies.

But, mere guess on my part. Who knows what Canon decides to call their wares?

We may see a Hello Kitty 5D for the ladies ;)
 
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rrcphoto said:
Since when has canon EVER launched a camera at NAB?

"The most reliable information I currently have about the announcement date is that it will come after the EOS-1D X Mark II begins shipping, no other reliable source has disagreed with this."

seems a little ridiculous considering they didn't care the last go around when the 5D Mark III shipped before the 1DX.

not to mention odds are the C500 Mark II is coming out and is canon's crowning jewel at NAB this year.

To call it "ridiculous" is very self-confident. The last go around was the first time that they did this, if they have estimated that this has hurt the initial sales of 1DX or that this may be the case this go around, I think that it is very plausible. I suggested that someone should start a poll among those readers who have preordered 1DX2, what if any features of 5D IV would make them cancel their pre-orders. Seems interesting
 
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Chaitanya said:
its going to be meh... and further help Sony in improving sales of their A7 series of cameras.

Did you realize that more and more you started to sound like meh?
If you didn't then get your Chaitanya elevated a bit. If you can't do it yourself, a professional might be of help.
Just a thought.
 
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Mr Majestyk said:
1DX was announced much earlier in October 2011 and was supposed to ship April 2012 and then delayed for what ever reason until June 2012. Given 1DX II will be shipping in 3-5 weeks, why would Canon announce 5DX before then?

I agree, even if they have it for testing now. They are not going to release it and compete with their own products, the 1DX II in this case.

I am personally not convinced the 5Dx will even come this year. While many were not pleased with the 5DS series, they are in fact still in the 5D line up. But even if they really cared about what their average consumer wants, it will be likely early to late fall before I expect the 5D to make an appearance.

As far as new camera, the new 6D II is more likely to show up this year. As a entry level full frame, it would not compete with the 1DX customer base.
 
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They might as well just announce/release it. Update is long long overdue & I bet Canon is losing body sales every day to the competition. Besides rumor mill is already strong enough that whoever still in the market for a 5D is going to wait for the 4/X. Also I don't think it'll steal any sales from the 1DX2, that's a whole other product segment..
 
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Fritz said:
They might as well just announce/release it. Update is long long overdue & I bet Canon is losing body sales every day to the competition. Besides rumor mill is already strong enough that whoever still in the market for a 5D is going to wait for the 4/X. Also I don't think it'll steal any sales from the 1DX2, that's a whole other product segment..

This "whole other product segment" mantra is funny to me, there are lots of people even here even today who are hesitating between 1DX and 5D III for lots of various reasons, why do you think it will be different with the new versions? Understand that not every photographer has just one definite segment where he takes pictures, and not every of the two cameras is specific to one segment and cannot be used in another. There are people who shoot sports with both cameras, there are people who shoot weddings with both cameras, there are journalists who use both cameras, yes one is more often used in each segment but that does not prohibit the use of the other.

And every loss of a client from 1dX2 to 5D IV will be a loss for Canon, why should they do it, when they can simply wait one more month to meet the pre-orders???
 
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Fritz said:
They might as well just announce/release it. Update is long long overdue & I bet Canon is losing body sales every day to the competition. Besides rumor mill is already strong enough that whoever still in the market for a 5D is going to wait for the 4/X. Also I don't think it'll steal any sales from the 1DX2, that's a whole other product segment..

What wager for the bet?
 
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It will be interesting to see how Canon differentiates the 5D4 from the 1DxM2.

Slowly FPS. Perhaps 5-8 vs 12/14.
High resolution. Perhaps high 20's or low 30's
Sensory DR and high ISO. 1DX bested the 5DM3 at high ISO. Will that continue?

Other key metrics?

Then comes the question how does Canon defend against the Nikon D810 and Sony A7RII.

The 5DS/SR tops both in the MP war but lacks DR and high ISO capability (esp vs the A7RII).

Don't expect the 5D4 to top the D810 (or perhaps d820 when that comes out) - Canon will sandwich the camera between the 5DS and 5DM4. Perhaps canon is expecting that D820 will have the same sensor as the A7RII - in which a low to mid 30 MP camera would be well positioned.
 
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mkabi said:
tron said:
Any reason you are referring to it as 5DX instead of 5D4? Do you really believe Canon will name it 5DX?

Why not? Any reason why they named their power shots G1X, G3X, G5X???
I think that canon likes the 'X' moniker and will give any model that 'X' when they think it's time???
Any reason why they named their 1D 1DMkII, 1DMkIIn, 1DMkIII, 1DMkIV ?
 
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