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<p>We’ve received a couple of more confirmations from people that the EF 11-24 f/4L we <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2014/08/canon-ef-11-24-f2-8l-coming-cr1/" target="_blank">first reported back in August</a> is in fact legit. The speculation on pricing for the EF 11-24 f/4L seems to be consistent across the board at around $3000 USD.</p>
<div id="attachment_17380" style="width: 510px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/canon1124.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-17380" src="http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/canon1124.jpg" alt="EF 11-24 f/4L" width="500" height="440" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">EF 11-24 f/4L</p></div>
<p>The following information is [CR1]. A separate person has told us that the EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS II was supposed to be announced at Photokina but was delayed, no reason for the delay was given. <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2014/09/canon-confirms-replacement-of-100-400-coming-more-do-ef-m-lenses/" target="_blank">Canon themselves have come out and said that a replacement is coming</a>, of course they didn’t specify when. We’re told to expect an announcement in November, with availability coming in December of this year. We’re not holding our breath on this one, as the 100-400 replacement has haunted us for quite some time now.</p>
<p>More to come</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>
 
Two very nice lenses, on APS-C as well as on FF! :)
It's nice to see new developments AND successors to old models! Also, it is maybe good not to announcement them at Photokina, as the 7DII got all the attention...
I could imagine an announcement of one (or two) high MP models together with these two, although the 100-400 maybe would have been better together with the 7DII. The 11-24 fits perfectly for a high MP body! :)
 
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Canon Rumors said:
<p>We’ve received a couple of more confirmations from people that the EF 11-24 f/4L we <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2014/08/canon-ef-11-24-f2-8l-coming-cr1/" target="_blank">first reported back in August</a> is in fact legit.

sweet, out my league 16-35 for me but should this not be a CR3 then?
 
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dilbert said:
The pricing of this lens is out of alignment with it being an f/4. Several factors could contribute to this:

1) difficult to manufacture in quantity
2) Canon perceives that there is a large, pent up, demand for this lens given how desirable it is to use the Nikon 12-24 plus adapter and thus lots of people willing to pay handsomely
3) the IQ is exceptional and Canon don't want to "give it away"
4) any combination of the above 3

Best advice in reaction to this lens is to wait a year or so and see what happens with the street price - similar to how the price corrected for the 24-70/f4L IS USM

If it has similar wide open performance to the 16-35 f/4 IS, then it will sell. The Sigma 12-24 comes closest -- it costs close to 1k and has mushy corners. 11mm is much wider than 14, so even though it is f/4, it might still be as large as Nikon's 14-24, which is about 2k now, years after its introduction. I'll wait for the reviews and also see where the price goes. The 16-35 f/4 IS is so good, but there is something special about 11mm...
 
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dilbert said:
The pricing of this lens is out of alignment with it being an f/4. Several factors could contribute to this:

1) difficult to manufacture in quantity
2) Canon perceives that there is a large, pent up, demand for this lens given how desirable it is to use the Nikon 12-24 plus adapter and thus lots of people willing to pay handsomely
3) the IQ is exceptional and Canon don't want to "give it away"
4) any combination of the above 3

Best advice in reaction to this lens is to wait a year or so and see what happens with the street price - similar to how the price corrected for the 24-70/f4L IS USM
Did you mean Nikon 14-24 f/2.8?

I imagine it would be something like the TS-E 17mm f/4 but maybe little sharper, with zoom optics and with USM autofocus. If this 11-24mm is for real, it would be in a class of its own; a lonely class of one... e.g. Advanced Ultra-Wide-Angle-Zoom, Aberration-Corrected, Maximal Detail Photography 101
 
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dilbert said:
The pricing of this lens is out of alignment with it being an f/4. Several factors could contribute to this:

1) difficult to manufacture in quantity
2) Canon perceives that there is a large, pent up, demand for this lens given how desirable it is to use the Nikon 12-24 plus adapter and thus lots of people willing to pay handsomely
3) the IQ is exceptional and Canon don't want to "give it away"
4) any combination of the above 3

And possibly taking a premium on the widest rectilinear lens on the market, except possibly the rumored Nikon 10mm prime. I'm sure Canon PR would love to point out the company makes the widest rectilinear & fisheye zoom lenses on the market.
 
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The speculation on pricing for the EF 11-24 f/4L seems to be consistent across the board at around $3000 USD.
Wow! I would have expected this price if it was f2.8.
For f4 at this price I would expect absolutely stellar optical performance.

Of course not my lens, not my budget.

This price gives me no good feeling about the to be expected price of the 100-400L II.
 
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Before we burn the barns in indignation lets get a couple of things clear:
  • The Nikon 12-24 is a crop camera only coverage lens, a $1,099 crop camera only lens that doesn't do the "ultra wide" job half as well as the Canon 10-22 EF-s and that costs $599.
  • The Nikon 14-24 is a FF ultra wide that costs $1,999. And those that herald it's all conquering capabilities probably haven't actually used it, yes it is much better than the Canon 16-35 f2.8 in the corners etc, but the 17 TS-E is a much better corrected lens for resolution, distortion and CA.
  • The 17 TS-E has a coverage of 11mm if you do a horizontal stitch, the projection distortion from an 11mm to rectilinear on ff is pretty bad, virtually unusable most of the time.

Whilst I don't see 14mm as being a hard limit for ff rectilinear lenses, 11mm is beyond extreme, at these focal lengths a couple of mm makes a huge difference. The 16-35 f4 IS has confirmed Canon can make fine ultra wide zooms, but where is the market for an 11-24 f4 next to that 16-35 f4 IS? If it was f2.8 I'd probably buy it, but my most used lens is the 17 TS-E anyway so it would be a nice compliment to that, at f4 I can stitch the 17 to get 11 on the very rare occasions I need the fov. The 16-35 f4 IS appeals, but it has limited utility for me over the 17 TS-E.

I can see the market for an f2.8 ultra wide zoom to compliment the 16-35 f4 IS, and the kudos of going wider than the 14-24, I am sure Canon would like the title of widest ff rectilinear lens back too, but the Sigma 12-24 is an f4 so even a 12-24 f2.8 would give Canon the fastest widest ever (so far)........
 
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