New DSLR on Tuesday, October 18, 2011. [CR3]

[Canon Rumors]

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<p><strong>Which one?

</strong>I am 99% positive we’re going to see a new DSLR next Tuesday, all the clues are pointing that way and I’m willing to give it a [CR3] rating.</p>
<p><strong>What camera? No [CR] rating on this yet.

</strong>Everything is pointing to a new 1D series camera, I am getting zero information from sources or from anywhere else on the web about any other camera.  We <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/03/5d3-1d5-and-1ds4-timeline-cr1/">started hearing 6 months ago</a> that the next EOS camera would be a new 1D and the bits of information are all pointing that way again.</p>
<p>For now the best spec list I have is what I posted a few days ago.</p>
<ul>
<li>16-18mp</li>
<li>Full Frame</li>
<li>ISO 51,200</li>
<li>Dual Digic V</li>
<li>Crazy frame rates of 12-14fps have been reported</li>
<li>61 AF points has also been reported</li>
</ul>
<p>Stock levels of the 1D Mark IV also point me in this direction. It seems they are very much being built to fill orders. There doesn’t seem to be any excess stock too many places.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

 

[steven63]

DigitalRev?

 

[awinphoto]

Using a page from the Canon Playbook, I cannot see them lowering the MP from the flagship camera whether your looking at the 1ds (21mp)... then again, I could see them doing kind of what the nikon 700 does where they offer there 30mp+ regular slow mo settings or a cropped 1.3 or 1.6 version that would be eq of 16-18mp with a crazy 12-14 FPS. I also would hope the ISO could also be a tad higher, but a lot can happen for the next few weeks/months... I also hope they release the 5d with this release... if they do, that could be enough for nikon to crap their pants...

 

[Canon Rumors]

DigitalRev?

LOL, no... never again.

 

[100]

If the specs are like the ones mentioned, it sounds like a Nikon D3s competitor.

A low megapixel FF Canon versus a high megapixel FF Nikon, if the D800 rumors are accurate.
Didn’t expect that.

 

[lol]

Less than a week to find out... even assuming it's a 1 series that I've no intention of getting, it might give hints of what might be to come in the 5D3

 

[Tarrum]

Hm, definitely interesting.

But if it's a 1D, it's the same amount of pixels, and maximum is ISO 51200? Or is that the highest, and then expansions like 102400?

If it's the 1Ds, it has less megapixels - makes no sense, Canon has and had the technology to put much more pixels and keep the performance great.

I'm guessing a 1D, though am a bit disappointed, was hoping for the 1Ds.

 

[Bob Howland]

Anybody besides me remember this?

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php/topic,528.0.html

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

The signs have been pointing towards a NEW DSLR soon, Moving the 1D series to FF was just a matter of time.

The low pixel density of a 18mp FF camera would certainly give it better low ISO capability, and might tempt me to replace my 5D MK II just to get the ISO boost, since I do a lot of low light photography. I really don't care about more FPS.

Those who shoot wildlife and birds will find such a camera to be less useful than a 1D MK IV or a 7D, with a lot fewer pixels on the target.

 

[Gothmoth]

The low pixel density of a 18mp FF camera would certainly give it better low ISO capability, and might tempt me to replace my 5D MK II just to get the ISO boost, since I do a lot of low light photography. I really don't care about more FPS.

i can´t complain about low ISO performance...

when i read 16-18 MP i first thought this is maybe the FF model that will be placed below the 5D.
but then all points to a 1D model.

 

[EYEONE]

If it has ISO 51200 without expansion I would expect it to have at least a H1 and H2 which would have put it at 204800. Interseting at least.

I would love to see someone crush the A77's 12fps. Just because.

Exciting!

 

[qless]

If it has ISO 51200 without expansion I would expect it to have at least a H1 and H2 which would have put it at 204800. Interseting at least.

I would love to see someone crush the A77's 12fps. Just because.

Exciting!

More than 9 fps on FF seems impossible with a moving mirror. A77 got a fixed one...

 

[EYEONE]

If it has ISO 51200 without expansion I would expect it to have at least a H1 and H2 which would have put it at 204800. Interseting at least.

I would love to see someone crush the A77's 12fps. Just because.

Exciting!

More than 9 fps on FF seems impossible with a moving mirror. A77 got a fixed one...

The FF Nikon D3s can do 11fps.

 

[Gothmoth]

More than 9 fps on FF seems impossible with a moving mirror. A77 got a fixed one...

nope... if nikon can do it canon sure can.
ok nikon 3Ds does it only in DX mode but that is more a processing problem then a mirror problem.

 

[hambergler]

Seems like a D3S killer / D4 competitor. I really like these specs.

Pair this with a high megapixel 5D mark III and I'm in heaven. I hope it has nifty video features.

 

[dgsphto]

This makes sense. This would be a sports, pro body camera in time for the games.

I really wanted a high MP 5Dmk3 though! I suppose I will have to "live with" a 5Dmk2.

 

[seanmcr6]

2 things.

1. As it's been mentioned countless times before....Nikon has a patent on the whole hardware cropping mode. You will NOT see this functionality in a Canon camera anytime soon.

2. It would not make much sense to create from scratch a new full frame sensor that is lower than the current chip. The 5DmkII is one of the best full frame chips made. The technology is over 3 years old now. I cannot see them engineering a brand new chip and lowering the MP count. If they put the 3 yr old chip in a 1D body, with new AF and computational power to shoot at 10fps...it would be a winner. Why spend dev time/money...retool the manufacturing...for a 16mp full frame chip? Can't see this happening. I don't need or want native 102K ISO....give me better DR.

I find the 21MPs of the 5D a sweet spot. It's high enough resolution be be used pretty much anywhere...and low enough that you aren't going to suffer file management issues or go beyond the limits of current 35mm lenses. My biggest complaint in using the 5DmkII is that the body/AF/features are nowhere as good as my 1D. I miss my 1D....

I too have been waiting since 2010 for a new 1Ds or 1D. I am happy it's finally here!!!

 

[Gothmoth]

2 things.

1. As it's been mentioned countless times before....Nikon has a patent on the whole hardware cropping mode. You will NOT see this functionality in a Canon camera anytime soon.

im not sure about that.
there are plenty of canon patents and you see similiar features in non canon cameras.

but then im not a patent lawyer.
and i don´t know if canon could fill a patent that does the same but in a different way.

2. It would not make much sense to create from scratch a new full frame sensor that is lower than the current chip. The 5DmkII is one of the best full frame chips made. The technology is over 3 years old now.

would make sense to me if this is not a 1D model but a customer/prosumer oriented FF body.
to seperate the products a 16-18 MP FF sensor would fit.
but then i would not expect a speed of 12-14 FPS...

If they put the 3 yr old chip in a 1D body, with new AF and computational power to shoot at 10fps...it would be a winner. Why spend dev time/money...retool the manufacturing...for a 16mp full frame chip?

maybe they fixed the rolling shutter problem with the new design or some other shortcomings of the old sensor design. dynamic range would also not increase with your approach.

 

[Loswr]

More than 9 fps on FF seems impossible with a moving mirror. A77 got a fixed one...

nope... if nikon can do it canon sure can.

Canon could do it? Canon has done it...with several generations of film cameras. Last time I checked, the reflex mirror didn't care whether there was a CMOS sensor or emulsion-coated gelatin behind it.

 

[EYEONE]

1. As it's been mentioned countless times before....Nikon has a patent on the whole hardware cropping mode. You will NOT see this functionality in a Canon camera anytime soon.

I'm pretty sure that just means that Canon can't do it the same way as Nikon. If they came up with a different method of cropping the viewfinder they could do it all they wanted. That's how I understand it. Both companies have 70-200mm f2.8 IS lenses and 50mm f1.8s and 24-70mm f2.8s. But they are different designs.