New Speedlite Coming? [CR2]

[Canon Rumors]

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<p>A brief mention that we could see a new Speedlite announced with the EOS 7D replacement in September.</p>
<p>I do not expect an 600EX-RT replacement, but the 430EX II could be the one to get an upgrade.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

 

[RLPhoto]

Sweetness. 440RT would be a nice addition to rid us of the ancient IR triggering tech.

 

[Chaitanya]

perfect, i dont care about radio triggering from a flash(600ex-rt). all i need is a flash with radio and optical slave, user interface similar to 600ex, zoom head of upto 200mm( most of the 3rd party flashes competing 430ex seem to have it ) as it will help is reducing wastage on tele lenses. price should be below 20000inr(~350$). thats all i need from a new mid range flash from canon.

 

[mrzero]

I can't wait. I hope this is the 4?0EX-RT everyone is expecting. I'd love to get three flashes and a controller for under $1k. I know the 600 is well-loved, but I can't justify it unless I could catch a refurb under $400. Even if I did, I wouldn't have anything to use the radio functionality with anyway.

 

[privatebydesign]

perfect, i dont care about radio triggering from a flash(600ex-rt). all i need is a flash with radio and optical slave, user interface similar to 600ex, zoom head of upto 200mm( most of the 3rd party flashes competing 430ex seem to have it ) as it will help is reducing wastage on tele lenses. price should be below 20000inr(~350$). thats all i need from a new mid range flash from canon.

Which ones are they? The Phottix doesn't and neither does the YN-568.

 

[Chaitanya]

perfect, i dont care about radio triggering from a flash(600ex-rt). all i need is a flash with radio and optical slave, user interface similar to 600ex, zoom head of upto 200mm( most of the 3rd party flashes competing 430ex seem to have it ) as it will help is reducing wastage on tele lenses. price should be below 20000inr(~350$). thats all i need from a new mid range flash from canon.

Which ones are they? The Phottix doesn't and neither does the YN-568.

Nissin Di700 has 24-200mm zoom head(although it lacks manual zoom and is significantly cheaper in India), also rumoured Metz Mecablitz 64 AF-1 is supposed to have a 24-200mm zoom head( I suspect it might cost more than 430ex). Also if the 440ex-rt did have a 24-200mm zoom head, imagine how the burn on the face of Nikon SB700 users.

here is a sample photo that I shot with a pair of Nissin Di700 and my friends Nikon D90+85mm macro lens. I would like to try Phottix for a change. Unluckily neither Yongnuo or Phottix have any presence in India. I can purchase Nissin, Canon and Metz speedlights only with decent after sales service.

 

[Jim Saunders]

perfect, i dont care about radio triggering from a flash(600ex-rt). all i need is a flash with radio and optical slave, user interface similar to 600ex, zoom head of upto 200mm( most of the 3rd party flashes competing 430ex seem to have it ) as it will help is reducing wastage on tele lenses. price should be below 20000inr(~350$). thats all i need from a new mid range flash from canon.

What about a 600EX? I don't know what they cost but they fit your bill otherwise.

Jim

 

[COBRASoft]

Bummer, I just bought my 4th 430 .

But ok, together with my Yongnuo's 622C's, they work like a charm and are not so pricy as those 600's.

 

[Marsu42]

here is a sample photo that

You should clean your sensor or use LR's healing brush

I can't wait. I hope this is the 4?0EX-RT everyone is expecting. I'd love to get three flashes and a controller for under $1k.

Don't hold your breach: The 600rt price has dropped some and it's included all Canon deals, while the 440ex (or whatever the name) is new = price premium. It might even have some additional gimmicks like continuous video light that many people won't use but that sill drives up the price. If it's €300, I'd rather get a €400 full 600rt...

 

[unfocused]

Since it almost certainly won't take a battery pack, I won't be buying. On the other hand, I welcome it because it gives me a little more (possibly imagined) assurance that Canon is unlikely to be making any major changes to the 600 RT anytime soon.

For those in the U.S., I don't see buying a new 4xx RT when, with a little patience, you can get refurbished 600 RTs for under $400 when Canon offers them on sale.

 

[Sabaki]

A 400RT series flash would be awesome!!!

I'd love a continuous light function where one could control the light output with a dial. Could be useful for star trails and fill in light for landscapes.

 

[privatebydesign]

perfect, i dont care about radio triggering from a flash(600ex-rt). all i need is a flash with radio and optical slave, user interface similar to 600ex, zoom head of upto 200mm( most of the 3rd party flashes competing 430ex seem to have it ) as it will help is reducing wastage on tele lenses. price should be below 20000inr(~350$). thats all i need from a new mid range flash from canon.

Which ones are they? The Phottix doesn't and neither does the YN-568.

Nissin Di700 has 24-200mm zoom head(although it lacks manual zoom and is significantly cheaper in India), also rumoured Metz Mecablitz 64 AF-1 is supposed to have a 24-200mm zoom head( I suspect it might cost more than 430ex). Also if the 440ex-rt did have a 24-200mm zoom head, imagine how the burn on the face of Nikon SB700 users.

here is a sample photo that I shot with a pair of Nissin Di700 and my friends Nikon D90+85mm macro lens. I would like to try Phottix for a change. Unluckily neither Yongnuo or Phottix have any presence in India. I can purchase Nissin, Canon and Metz speedlights only with decent after sales service.

I'd hardly call one third party flash that doesn't offer any manual zoom at all "most of the 3rd party flashes competing with the 430". Because of this I think you will find zooming to 200mm will be a 600 and up only "feature" for the foreseeable future, product differentiation and all that.

As for kicking sand in the eye of SB-700 owners, well I think the RT bit does that very well without the requested zoom range.

If the 4??-EX-RT came out tomorrow I might buy four in a year or so, but then again I'd probably just get more 600's.

 

[sagittariansrock]

For those in the U.S., I don't see buying a new 4xx RT when, with a little patience, you can get refurbished 600 RTs for under $400 when Canon offers them on sale.

+1.
I wanted a 4X0RT a year back, but now having owned and used my 600s, I don't think I would want to lose a single feature.
And how much cheaper can they make the 4X0RT anyway? The new 430EXs sell for $ 300, and even that makes a refurb 600 look like a bargain (which it is, BTW).

 

[Marsu42]

And how much cheaper can they make the 4X0RT anyway?

Much cheaper, look at third party flashes, even if you allow for a higher Canon quality. Flash technology isn't space age anymore - it's just about how much r&d roi and profit Canon wants to have.

If the 4??-EX-RT came out tomorrow I might buy four in a year or so, but then again I'd probably just get more 600's.

One advantage of having the same flash models is that if you use m flash, you get more of a feeling how much power is required - this alone is a reason I'd stay with the 600rt if I can afford it. Mixing my 600rt with my old 430ex always ends up in a struggle concerning different power output and recycling times. You big boys with studio strobes probably have more experience mixing light sources though.

 

[sagittariansrock]

And how much cheaper can they make the 4X0RT anyway?

Much cheaper, look at third party flashes, even if you allow for a higher Canon quality. Flash technology isn't space age anymore - it's just about how much r&d roi and profit Canon wants to have.

Let me rephrase that- how much cheaper will Canon be willing to price the 4X0RT anyway? (considering Canon's general inclination towards R&D roi and profit)

 

[Marsu42]

Let me rephrase that- how much cheaper will Canon be willing to price the 4X0RT anyway? (considering Canon's general inclination towards R&D roi and profit)

You don't want to hear my answer, I'm Mr. "Canon is too greedy" around here. Though I have to admit the 600rt is a very good piece of equipment, they have to get back their r&d investment and Yongnuo just showed us how not to do it with the terrible st-e3 transmitter clone.

 

[distant.star]

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Damn!!

And after I just spent $60 hard-retired dollars on a 90EX.

 

[Zv]

The only way this is gonna work is if they add a built im radio slave function and make the buttons bigger but keep the price the same. Then it might make sense otherwise it's just a waste of money and you might as well just buy the 600s as you get way more for your money.

My 430 exii cost about $250 (bought in Japan). That was about as much as I'd want to pay for something like that. I could get almost 4 YN 560s with just that amount (and I did). So it won't appeal to the cheapos and it's not powerful enough for the heavy stuff that pros need so what is the point??

Is it going to be aimed at those buying their first flash? A gateway to the 600? Then when they upgrade they can still use both together right? What would be their next move? Ummm sell the 4xx and get another 600, duh!

 

[sagittariansrock]

Let me rephrase that- how much cheaper will Canon be willing to price the 4X0RT anyway? (considering Canon's general inclination towards R&D roi and profit)

You don't want to hear my answer, I'm Mr. "Canon is too greedy" around here. Though I have to admit the 600rt is a very good piece of equipment, they have to get back their r&d investment and Yongnuo just showed us how not to do it with the terrible st-e3 transmitter clone.

It is a rhetorical question anyway.
I think Canon will NOT price the 4X0RT low enough that too many will be inclined to settle for that instead of another 600 (especially if refurbished).

 

[Joe M]

Wouldn't it be something if this new flash was being rolled out as one that could be controlled by a built-in radio wireless system in the new 7D? Yes, I know I'm reaching and just kidding. At least, I hope that's not what it'll be cause I'd be too jealous.