Nikon D750 announced & "NEW" Sensor (recycled) & AF!

[xps]

Report @ Dpreview:
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7222282087/nikon-d750-fx-dslr-announced

Nikon seems to recycle the D610 sensor....

"The D750 features a 24MP CMOS sensor with an AA filter, and although Nikon (as usual) claims that this sensor is 'newly developed' it is probably based on the same sensor that we've seen in the D610 (and Sony A7)...."
cited from: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikon-d750/3

"The D750 inherits a version of the 51-point Multi-CAM 3500FX AF system that we've seen used in the D800/E and D810 but its 'II' version is actually more sensitive - rated down to -3EV. We haven't been able to really get a feel for how much difference this makes in normal use but in theory, the D750 should offer superior AF reliability in poor light compared to the D810 and D4S, which is quite something (and which might prompt more than a few D800 owners to 'upgrade' to the D750). "
cited from: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikon-d750/3

 

[MichaelHodges]

FF, advanced auto focus, 6.5 FPS, and a class-leading sensor.

There's no reason at all to buy a 7DII.

 

[Ebrahim Saadawi]

FF, advanced auto focus, 6.5 FPS, and a class-leading sensor.

There's no reason at all to buy a 7DII.

Different cameras for different users and markets.

Looks like the D750 is a winner though. Lovely all-arounder if you're not a demanding landscape (needing the 36 mps) or a demanding sports photographer (needing 10 fps, deep buffer, 1/8000 shutter, tougher body etc) this is a lovrly camera. and to be honest most of the market are not demanding landscape and sports photographers so this makes an excellent all-rounder for them. Lovely price to match too. I suspect the 7D mk II sill be priced similarly.

 

[joejohnbear]

As a wedding photographer, I think this is a great backup camera, but we shoot with f/1.4 a lot, so the 15 cross type points and the 1/4000th shutter will take its toll. The -3ev is great though, if only the 15 cross type weren't a limitation. The mk iii and the 1dx are still the way to go and that's what our studio uses. The D810 and the D4s and D700 are still Nikon's wedding workhorses.

FF, advanced auto focus, 6.5 FPS, and a class-leading sensor.

There's no reason at all to buy a 7DII.

Different cameras for different users and markets.

Looks like the D750 is a winner though. Lovely all-arounder if you're not a demanding landscape (needing the 36 mps) or a demanding sports photographer (needing 10 fps, deep buffer, 1/8000 shutter, tougher body etc) this is a lovrly camera. and to be honest most of the market are not demanding landscape and sports photographers so this makes an excellent all-rounder for them. Lovely price to match too. I suspect the 7D mk II sill be priced similarly.

Sounds like an event or wedding photographer's dream camera to me.

 

[ULFULFSEN]

As a wedding photographer, I think this is a great backup camera, but we shoot with f/1.4 a lot, so the 15 cross type points and the 1/4000th shutter will take its toll. The -3ev is great though, if only the 15 cross type weren't a limitation. The mk iii and the 1dx are still the way to go and that's what our studio uses.

a studio but no link to it?
shouldn´t you try to get a much exposure as possible?

 

[joejohnbear]

Photographers here aren't clients or business leads. Simple as that. And I like to trash talk (internet posters, not people with real names) on occasion, so it wouldn't be good to mix business and fun here, haha.

As a wedding photographer, I think this is a great backup camera, but we shoot with f/1.4 a lot, so the 15 cross type points and the 1/4000th shutter will take its toll. The -3ev is great though, if only the 15 cross type weren't a limitation. The mk iii and the 1dx are still the way to go and that's what our studio uses.

a studio but no link to it?
shouldn´t you try to get a much exposure as possible?

 

[JohanCruyff]

FF, advanced auto focus, 6.5 FPS, and a class-leading sensor.

51 Focus points with "just" 15 cross-type.
2 SD Cards Slots.
1/4000th max shutter speed.
No small RAW option.

End of possible complains, for me.

If there aren't quality/reliability problems, D750 will be a very good camera in a new sub-segment (between "cheap full frame" and "pro full frame").

Competition will help the whole industry. Let's see Canon's future proposals.

 

[daniela]

Report @ Dpreview:
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7222282087/nikon-d750-fx-dslr-announced

Nikon seems to recycle the D610 sensor....

"The D750 features a 24MP CMOS sensor with an AA filter, and although Nikon (as usual) claims that this sensor is 'newly developed' it is probably based on the same sensor that we've seen in the D610 (and Sony A7)...."
cited from: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikon-d750/3

"The D750 inherits a version of the 51-point Multi-CAM 3500FX AF system that we've seen used in the D800/E and D810 but its 'II' version is actually more sensitive - rated down to -3EV. We haven't been able to really get a feel for how much difference this makes in normal use but in theory, the D750 should offer superior AF reliability in poor light compared to the D810 and D4S, which is quite something (and which might prompt more than a few D800 owners to 'upgrade' to the D750). "
cited from: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikon-d750/3

The sensor on the D610 is very good. My husbands "backup Camera" (I do not know why he needs one as (he has an D800 and an D810) is an very good all-in-one Camera.

I hope Canon has put -3EV in the 7DII too. That would be an good additional function to use the 7DII with an 100-400mm 4.5-5.6 and an 1.4x converter.

 

[tomscott]

The answer to the 5DmkIII has arrived

 

[sarangiman]

As a wedding photographer, I think this is a great backup camera, but we shoot with f/1.4 a lot, so the 15 cross type points and the 1/4000th shutter will take its toll. The -3ev is great though, if only the 15 cross type weren't a limitation. The mk iii and the 1dx are still the way to go and that's what our studio uses. The D810 and the D4s and D700 are still Nikon's wedding workhorses.

I hear you on the somewhat measly 15 cross-type points (by today's standards anyway, after the 5D Mark III and the 1D X), clustered near the center of the frame.

That said, I still prefer Nikon's AF system for my f/1.4 prime wedding photography simply b/c the 3D AF tracking system is so reliable that I can trust it to automatically move the AF point to stay on my subject as I recompose (or the subject moves) after I initially acquire focus using the center point. This is much faster than manually moving the AF point (which of course I could never do fast enough when the subject is moving).

Thankfully, the D750 has the same 91,000-pixel RGB metering sensor in the D810, so 3D AF tracking will likely be just as good (if not identical).

I hope Nikon is working on 'catching up' to Canon's more extensive cross-type offering.

I've also wondered for some time if the high-precision, wider-baseline center points on the 5D Mark III and 1D X outperform Nikon's center AF points. I haven't seen any rigorous tests done here (other than Roger Cicala's - but I believe his tests were done under good lighting with high contrast targets).

Personally, I think the D750 will be a workhorse wedding tool for the Nikon side. It actually offers a potential advantage over the D810 given that it focuses (theoretically) in lower light. And its only disadvantages compared to the D810 are lower resolution and higher base ISO (or slightly lower dynamic range) - which are probably of very little import to many wedding photographers. Meanwhile, the slightly increased FPS is advantageous to wedding photography.

They've definitely packed a lot into this camera, and that's admirable. I just hope we see some more 'revolutionary' improvements in technology from Nikon soon. I suppose that could be said about everyone, though!

 

[lo lite]

Report @ Dpreview:
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7222282087/nikon-d750-fx-dslr-announced

Too bad it doesn't sport 4k Video. Not that I would have bought the D750 if it had but having 4k Video would have set the bar for the upcoming 5DIV. So Canon can dodge 4k Video in the 5D series again.

 

[Loswr]

FF, advanced auto focus, 6.5 FPS, and a class-leading sensor.
There's no reason at all to buy a 7DII.

Troll much? How well will the D750 work with Canon lenses...or are they no reason to buy a 7DII?

I hope Canon has put -3EV in the 7DII too. That would be an good additional function to use the 7DII with an 100-400mm 4.5-5.6 and an 1.4x converter.

I don't think you understand how AF systems are specified. The low light sensitivity spec (-0.5 EV for the 7D, etc.), has nothing to do with the AF functionality for a given maximum aperture. The 1D X and 5DIII are spec'd to -2 EV, and can AF at f/8 (e.g. 100-400 + 1.4x); the 6D is spec'd to -3 EV, but cannot AF with an f/8 combo.

The answer to the 5DmkIII has arrived

Yep, and just in time 2 years late.

 

[joejohnbear]

To support Thom's assertion that the D750 is two years too late: http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/d750-too-little-too-late.html

 

[MichaelHodges]

As I've stated before, people make too much of this spec. Consider an example of the difference between -2 EV and -3 EV light levels: f/2.8, 1/15 s, ISO 51200 vs ISO 102400. Neither of those is likely to result in a very good image in most situations.

It's nice to have. The sum of minor improvements creates a nice package.

Troll much? How well will the D750 work with Canon lenses...or are they no reason to buy a 7DII?

Trolling would be spending days on the forum, constantly engaged in brand wars with little regard for objectivity. Know anyone who fits that description?

I'm giving my sincere feelings. This will be my next camera, and I'm choosing it over the 7DII.

 

[psolberg]

To support Thom's assertion that the D750 is two years too late: http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/d750-too-little-too-late.html

fanboy talk. it will sell quite well in the face of comments like that. Nikon had a LOT of demand on the wings for this camera. It would be like saying a high MP canon body is 2 years too late. It isn't because a lot of people locked into the canon system will buy it.

and BTW the sensor is not recycled (also fanboy talk). Nikon always tweaks their sensors and dXO will confirm it. it may be the same basic sensor but likely has better process and tweaks to yield better IQ than the 6xx series.

I realize he shoots a lot of nikon, but while his technical articles are good, Thom Hogan is an absolutely blow hard. His obsession with DX, hostility towards sony, and dimissal of anybody but his power point charts make his sales forecast absurd.

 

[joejohnbear]

I mistyped that, it was Neuro's assertion. It will sell as well as the D600/D610.

To support Thom's assertion that the D750 is two years too late: http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/d750-too-little-too-late.html

fanboy talk. it will sell quite well in the face of comments like that. Nikon had a LOT of demand on the wings for this camera. It would be like saying a high MP canon body is 2 years too late. It isn't because a lot of people locked into the canon system will buy it.

and BTW the sensor is not recycled (also fanboy talk). Nikon always tweaks their sensors and dXO will confirm it. it may be the same basic sensor but likely has better process and tweaks to yield better IQ than the 6xx series.

I realize he shoots a lot of nikon, but while his technical articles are good, Thom Hogan is an absolutely blow hard. His obsession with DX, hostility towards sony, and dimissal of anybody but his power point charts make his sales forecast absurd.

 

[quod]

Yo OP, so what?

 

[Loswr]

The sum of minor improvements creates a nice package

So the D750 which uses a recycled sensor and has some improvements is a nice package, but the 7DII which (probably) uses a recycled sensor and has some improvements...no reason to buy that. Whatever. :

 

[9VIII]

The answer to the 5DmkIII has arrived

Yep, and just in time 2 years late.

That was my first thought. They really should have called it the D650, or the D800 For Cheapskates.
It really just combines the worst features of each, and gives you a middle of the road price. I have no idea why Nikon didn't give this 8FPS, there is literally no reason to get this other than the price (unless you're allergic to large files).
Honestly I would rather have a 7DII. You can bet Canon is going to works some magic with the AF there, and just watch that shutter fly.
It's a camera with a purpose. The D750, is just another good all around camera.
Nikon must be really nervous about their D4 sales.

To be fair, it is about a grand less than the 5D3, so at least you get something for your time.

 

[sagittariansrock]

I think it is a bit foolish to argue that Nikon's neglecting the high-end DX market and overcrowding the entry-mid level FX market is not a great marketing strategy. I think the D600, with a bit better QC and better marketing, could easily have survived a couple of years till a D610 around early 2015 (with the same features as the D750). On the other hand, Nikon could have brought out a D400, if you will, to provide all those poor souls who need tough build quality, high fps, great AF system and don't have the dough to pay for the D4/s or super tele lenses.
@Jrista: You would have bought such a camera if Canon could (well, technically still might) deliver it with great sensor tech! Now think about Nikon users- they KNOW Nikon has a great sensor and all the additional features variously in FX cameras- why can't they get it in a DX camera?

In the same breath I say that Canon's ignoring the high-MP FF market isn't a great strategy, but while that might have something to do with R&D abilities, Nikon doesn't even have that excuse.

It seems that Nikon is great at starting something wonderful and then following it up really poorly. Take the D700, the D7000 and the D300s. Most unfortunate for a venerable company.