Patent: A Few More Image Sensor Patents from Canon

[Canon Rumors]

<p><a href="http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_rumours.html" target="_blank">Northlight Images</a> has posted 3 more patents and a simple breakdown of each.</p>
<p>From Northlight:</p>
<ul>
<li>Patent shows more tricks you can do with split pixels for AF [<a href="http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNum=0&docid=09204067">USPTO</a>]</li>
<li>Patent about dividing longer exposures into shorter ones and adding them together [<a href="http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=09204055">USPTO</a>]</li>
<li>Patent about moving the sensor micro lens array forwards/backwards to match up with main lens [<a href="http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=09201289">USPTO</a>]</li>
</ul>
<p>We all expect the next generation of full frame Canon sensors to be a big leap forward in performance. In our opinion, Canon has no other choice.</p>

 

[drjlo]

We all expect the next generation of full frame Canon sensors to be a big leap forward in performance. In our opinion, Canon has no other choice.

Does Canon know that? :'(
I certainly hope next-gen Canon sensors utilize at least 180nm process and on-chip ADC. That's all I ask..

 

[Mr1Dx]

<p><a href="http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_rumours.html" target="_blank">Northlight Images</a> has posted 3 more patents and a simple breakdown of each.</p>
<p>From Northlight:</p>
<ul>
<li>Patent shows more tricks you can do with split pixels for AF [<a href="http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNum=0&docid=09204067">USPTO</a>]</li>
<li>Patent about dividing longer exposures into shorter ones and adding them together [<a href="http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=09204055">USPTO</a>]</li>
<li>Patent about moving the sensor micro lens array forwards/backwards to match up with main lens [<a href="http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=09201289">USPTO</a>]</li>
</ul>
<p>We all expect the next generation of full frame Canon sensors to be a big leap forward in performance. In our opinion, Canon has no other choice.</p>

Your last sentence might upset some peeps here ;D

 

[privatebydesign]

<p><a href="http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_rumours.html" target="_blank">Northlight Images</a> has posted 3 more patents and a simple breakdown of each.</p>
<p>From Northlight:</p>
<ul>
<li>Patent shows more tricks you can do with split pixels for AF [<a href="http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNum=0&docid=09204067">USPTO</a>]</li>
<li>Patent about dividing longer exposures into shorter ones and adding them together [<a href="http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=09204055">USPTO</a>]</li>
<li>Patent about moving the sensor micro lens array forwards/backwards to match up with main lens [<a href="http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=09201289">USPTO</a>]</li>
</ul>
<p>We all expect the next generation of full frame Canon sensors to be a big leap forward in performance. In our opinion, Canon has no other choice.</p>

Your last sentence might upset some peeps here ;D

That is because it hasn't stood up to historical record or comparative sales numbers. Don't get me wrong, I would welcome improvements and will happily take them when they get here, but to say "Canon has no other choice" is patently untrue.

 

[RGF]

Does anyone know how long a period time there typically is between announcement of patent and seeing it in a product in the market place.

I realize that it can be years on the long end, but on the shorter end, what is typical for canon?

 

[privatebydesign]

Patent about moving the sensor micro lens array forwards/backwards to match up with main lens

Sounds like AFMA or another version of it.

No, it sounds like light field technology.

 

[Woody]

We all expect the next generation of full frame Canon sensors to be a big leap forward in performance. In our opinion, Canon has no other choice.

If indeed the next generation of ALL Canon sensors, both FF and APS-C, is a leap forward, complete with class-leading improvements in AF accuracy, I shall happily replace my trusty 6D and EOS-M3. Otherwise, Canon can be sure they are not getting any business from me.

 

[Don Haines]

Does anyone know how long a period time there typically is between announcement of patent and seeing it in a product in the market place.

I realize that it can be years on the long end, but on the shorter end, what is typical for canon?

It can be anything from "never to be released" to "It's about to be released so let the secrecy end"

 

[RGF]

Hasselblad has a camera that moves the sensor (and micro lens) a small distance allowing 4 images to be combined into one. Their 50MP camera becomes a 200MP camera. Of course zero subject motion is tolerated.

 

[dak723]

We all expect the next generation of full frame Canon sensors to be a big leap forward in performance. In our opinion, Canon has no other choice.</p>
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Presumably those who run Canon Rumors are buyers and supporters of Canon. And yet, with baloney statements such as this, you do more to hurt Canon than you can possibly do intentionally. Compare the pics from today's Canon cameras to Sony or Nikon. Chances are in 99% of cases, you won't be able to tell the difference. (Or quite possibly, you will like the results from Canon better, as I did when I bought the Sony A7 II to potentially replace my Canon 6D). The differences between cameras is minute and the differences between generations is minute, too. If you can't see this, or understand this, you lose all credibility.

 

[Orangutan]

We all expect the next generation of full frame Canon sensors to be a big leap forward in performance. In our opinion, Canon has no other choice.

Your last sentence might upset some peeps here ;D

That is because it hasn't stood up to historical record or comparative sales numbers.

+1

Don't get me wrong, I would welcome improvements and will happily take them when they get here

+10

I'd love better sensors, there are some situations for which IQ improvements would really benefit me; however, ...

but to say "Canon has no other choice" is patently untrue.

+100

I've yet to see any market data to suggest that Canon is less profitable due to its sensors. Some day it will be, but there's no reason to believe that's the case now.

If CR Guy knows something about the market that's not available to the rest of us I'd love to see that posted. My little subjective opinion is that now is the time for Canon to start getting serious about mirrorless, but that sensor IQ is still an issue only for a tiny minority of buyers.

 

[Etienne]

We all expect the next generation of full frame Canon sensors to be a big leap forward in performance. In our opinion, Canon has no other choice.</p>
[/html]

Presumably those who run Canon Rumors are buyers and supporters of Canon. And yet, with baloney statements such as this, you do more to hurt Canon than you can possibly do intentionally. Compare the pics from today's Canon cameras to Sony or Nikon. Chances are in 99% of cases, you won't be able to tell the difference. (Or quite possibly, you will like the results from Canon better, as I did when I bought the Sony A7 II to potentially replace my Canon 6D). The differences between cameras is minute and the differences between generations is minute, too. If you can't see this, or understand this, you lose all credibility.

Sony is innovating at a blazing pace. Canon has been much more conservative.
I'm a Canon fan, but Canon does have to push the boundaries more, not just in their top products like the 1Dx and the C300, but in their second tier and amateur products too, like the 5D and C100. The A7 series may not be quite there yet, but at Sony's pace, Canon does not have the luxury to wait another model release before wowing their customers. The same can be said about the FS5 vs C100
So although the current Canon cameras are still great cameras, CR guy is absolutely right. Canon cannot afford to sit on their laurels and expect to remain king of the mountain. There's a challenger, and he's getting stronger.

 

[Orangutan]

Sony is innovating at a blazing pace. Canon has been much more conservative.

Translation: Sony is burning R&D money fast, and still can't figure out how to make a consistently profitable product line, as Canon has.

To reiterate yet again, while I would be happy to see improved sensor tech in Canon products, the market does not yet appear to demand it.

 

[Jack Douglas]

Sony is innovating at a blazing pace. Canon has been much more conservative.

Translation: Sony is burning R&D money fast, and still can't figure out how to make a consistently profitable product line, as Canon has.

To reiterate yet again, while I would be happy to see improved sensor tech in Canon products, the market does not yet appear to demand it.

I read CR for the humour or is it humor.

Jack

 

[Mr1Dx]

<p><a href="http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_rumours.html" target="_blank">Northlight Images</a> has posted 3 more patents and a simple breakdown of each.</p>
<p>From Northlight:</p>
<ul>
<li>Patent shows more tricks you can do with split pixels for AF [<a href="http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?PageNum=0&docid=09204067">USPTO</a>]</li>
<li>Patent about dividing longer exposures into shorter ones and adding them together [<a href="http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=09204055">USPTO</a>]</li>
<li>Patent about moving the sensor micro lens array forwards/backwards to match up with main lens [<a href="http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=09201289">USPTO</a>]</li>
</ul>
<p>We all expect the next generation of full frame Canon sensors to be a big leap forward in performance. In our opinion, Canon has no other choice.</p>

Your last sentence might upset some peeps here ;D

That is because it hasn't stood up to historical record or comparative sales numbers. Don't get me wrong, I would welcome improvements and will happily take them when they get here, but to say "Canon has no other choice" is patently untrue.

It's hard to dump $30 - 40K worth of L lenses for $5-7K body with better sensor....Otherwise, we wouldn't have this discussion today.

I would agree with Admin "Canon has no other choice". Glass is important, so is sensor.

 

[Ozarker]

All the hand wringing and doomsday hysteria is amusing. ;D

 

[Don Haines]

Sony is innovating at a blazing pace. Canon has been much more conservative.

Translation: Sony is burning R&D money fast, and still can't figure out how to make a consistently profitable product line, as Canon has.

To reiterate yet again, while I would be happy to see improved sensor tech in Canon products, the market does not yet appear to demand it.

I read CR for the humour or is it humor.

Jack

As it is a Canadian based website, it is humour..... but the endless debate about sensours is not funny...

 

[Jack Douglas]

Canadian! I didn't know that.

Jack

 

[Mr1Dx]

Sony is innovating at a blazing pace. Canon has been much more conservative.

Translation: Sony is burning R&D money fast, and still can't figure out how to make a consistently profitable product line, as Canon has.

To reiterate yet again, while I would be happy to see improved sensor tech in Canon products, the market does not yet appear to demand it.

I can see great market for newbies, who shooting DSLR in JPEG, would buy Canon DSLR today. Yup....dust cheap 3t 5t craps. These people want to look like pros with big DSLR bodies on their neck and know nothing about camera. These cheap bodies and lenses are the ones make up high volume numbers on papers.

On the PRO lines, Canon slowly improve their tech and features due to many of us already invested heavily in L lenses(I'm one of them) can't switch system.

Look at Canon M line. I thought, they said they are "serious about mirrorless". Hope we'll not witness another Kodak moment.

 

[Mr1Dx]

Try saying someone's football team might use some improvement in one area or another and you get the same reaction. Camera products and brands are no different.

Why do people react to anything negative towards Canon like their momma is being dissed? LoL

I'm personally happy with current Canon sensor tech, but I am not blind to the market of people who feel they want or need the advantages that Sony sensors currently offer.

I think Canon got a bit lucky in the last 4 years, as Nikon ignored the wedding and event photographers by not offering a D700 replacement soon enough. They also dropped the ball with customer service nightmares.

If Canon can trump Sony sensored cameras in low and high ISO quality, they will be firing on all cylinders and will once again demolish the competition in just about every way like they did most of last decade.

Stop being a big pus--

"I'm good with current Canon sensor, but I don't mind to have better one likes Sony"

and another one

"We use Canon as a system"

another fav one.

"Sale numbers don't show Canon is behind"

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