Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

[JBSF]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

Some nice specs .. but also some not so nice.. for 2000 USD you'd expect 2 memory card slots and 4k video ... 4k isn't dealbreaker for me .. the 2nd missing sd-card slot is - hope this rumor isn't true - since we already have quite a bit fuji equipment, but need to replace our current 6ds and a 5d3 .. i guess fuji and sony will be the future since i am also not blown away by the 5d iv (which i own ...) - sony a9 looks pretty tempting .. Canon has to stop competing with their own products and has to start competing with other brands .. Getting disappointet and disappointed for a few years now .. (since the release of the 5d3 nothing mindblowing)

H&G

Can we construe numbers of reviews of camera bodies on B&H Photo's website to represent relative popularity/sales? If so, then since the announcement of the 5D Mark III in March 2012, and announcement of the Sony A99 in September 2012, the 5D Mark III, 5D Mark IV, and 6D have received 2,699 reviews, while the Sony A99, A7, A7ii, A7R, A7Rii, A7S, A7Sii, and A9 have received 1,051.

Canon is clearly incapable of marketing research and is doomed, outselling Sony 2.5 to 1 with three miserably underperforming bodies. And this was while Sony developed 8 bodies. It sure appears to me that Sony, not Canon, is competing with its own products and can't quite come up with a body that has all the features and the pricing that resonate with potential buyers.

 

[IglooEater]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

Some nice specs .. but also some not so nice.. for 2000 USD you'd expect 2 memory card slots and 4k video ... 4k isn't dealbreaker for me .. the 2nd missing sd-card slot is - hope this rumor isn't true - since we already have quite a bit fuji equipment, but need to replace our current 6ds and a 5d3 .. i guess fuji and sony will be the future since i am also not blown away by the 5d iv (which i own ...) - sony a9 looks pretty tempting .. Canon has to stop competing with their own products and has to start competing with other brands .. Getting disappointet and disappointed for a few years now .. (since the release of the 5d3 nothing mindblowing)

H&G

Care to elaborate? I seem to have missed something in my Internet vocabulary course.

 

[Don Haines]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

Some nice specs .. but also some not so nice.. for 2000 USD you'd expect 2 memory card slots and 4k video ... 4k isn't dealbreaker for me .. the 2nd missing sd-card slot is - hope this rumor isn't true - since we already have quite a bit fuji equipment, but need to replace our current 6ds and a 5d3 .. i guess fuji and sony will be the future since i am also not blown away by the 5d iv (which i own ...) - sony a9 looks pretty tempting .. Canon has to stop competing with their own products and has to start competing with other brands .. Getting disappointet and disappointed for a few years now .. (since the release of the 5d3 nothing mindblowing)

H&G

Care to elaborate? I seem to have missed something in my Internet vocabulary course.

I was guessing "Homes and Gardens", but failed to see the relevance... "Hansel and Gretel"? no mention of a gingerbread house so far, so that can't be it.... Holy Grail?????

 

[Loswr]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

H&G

Care to elaborate? I seem to have missed something in my Internet vocabulary course.

New member, two Canon-bashing posts, claims to be leaving Canon because they can't compete.

Hi & goodbye.

 

[nightscape123]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

This is awesome news. The 6D II is turning out exactly how I hoped it would, a full frame 80D with improved sensor and even cheaper than I thought. I was hoping for $2200, and expecting $2400. coming in at $1999 is an awesome surprise. If that is the actual price then I will pre-order instead of waiting for CPW to get a lower street price which usually happens 1-2 months after release.

Canon did not disappoint!

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

This is awesome news. The 6D II is turning out exactly how I hoped it would, a full frame 80D with improved sensor and even cheaper than I thought. I was hoping for $2200, and expecting $2400. coming in at $1999 is an awesome surprise. If that is the actual price then I will pre-order instead of waiting for CPW to get a lower street price which usually happens 1-2 months after release.

Canon did not disappoint!

Actually, there are often short time deals on cameras before they hit the stores, so expect to see a small 50 or 75 dollar discount. I can get between 5 and 10 percent off thru my employer, it barely pays the sales tax.

 

[PureClassA]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

I guess I figured after being in here for several years, I'd be used to trolls who show up to complain about every new model being the "DEATH OF CANON!" but alas, it still amazes me. Canon is still on top the market by a huge margin because they make great cameras professionals prefer on average above all the rest. For $1999 you get a FF Canon sensor with the new sensor build, 26MP DPAF, 45AF Cross types, and I'm guessing 5-6fps? It's a fantastic successor to the 6D which I still love. As I mentioned earlier, it's arguably a successor to the 5D3 with about 20% higher resolution and the new sensor tech, but for $1500 less than a 5D3 at launch. What are we complaining about??? I skipped the 5D4. I have a 5D3 and a 5DSR so the 30MP of the 5D4 just wasn't as appealing an investment to me as a 1DX2 at that point, which I bought and utterly adore. But this 6D2? I am VERY interested at $1999. The only thing stopping me is the rumor of a new 135L and 85L. There's only so many $ to spend here and the 6D2 might take a back seat for a year. But it's still a VERY desirable spec sheet for me and I promise you a LOT of others. Imagine these wedding pros still sitting on a bank of 5D3's? They may have picked up a 5D4 or two, but they may buy two 6D2 bodies for only slightly more than the cost of a single 5D4.

 

[StudentOfLight]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

As someone who owns:
a comprehensive set of EF lenses (8mm to 200mm)
Full frame Canon cameras
Canon 80D

I have one question for Canon: "What does the 6D-II offer over the 80D?"

So far the only thing I'm seeing is 8% higher resolution files (aka 4% larger linear resolution)

 

[Famateur]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

...Imagine these wedding pros still sitting on a bank of 5D3's? They may have picked up a 5D4 or two, but they may buy two 6D2 bodies for only slightly more than the cost of a single 5D4.

Now that's one way to have a second card slot.

 

[StudentOfLight]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

...Imagine these wedding pros still sitting on a bank of 5D3's? They may have picked up a 5D4 or two, but they may buy two 6D2 bodies for only slightly more than the cost of a single 5D4.

Now that's one way to have a second card slot.

... depending on Wireless speed and reliability, you could potentially use a mobile device as your "backup card" (at the cost of battery life.)

 

[Loswr]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

As someone who owns:
a comprehensive set of EF lenses (8mm to 200mm)
Full frame Canon cameras
Canon 80D

I have one question for Canon: "What does the 6D-II offer over the 80D?"

So far the only thing I'm seeing is 8% higher resolution files (aka 4% larger linear resolution)

A sensor 2.56-times larger, meaning ~1.33 stops more light gathered. What's a stop of light worth? Ask the 300/4 vs 2.8, or the 200/2.8 vs 2.0. Heck, even the 70-200/4 vs 2.8 runs less than the 80D vs 6DII.

 

[Don Haines]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

...Imagine these wedding pros still sitting on a bank of 5D3's? They may have picked up a 5D4 or two, but they may buy two 6D2 bodies for only slightly more than the cost of a single 5D4.

Now that's one way to have a second card slot.

... depending on Wireless speed and reliability, you could potentially use a mobile device as your "backup card" (at the cost of battery life.)

You still need a dedicated videographer to live-stream the wedding.....

 

[StudentOfLight]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

It's so hard to get excited over this spec list. In 2 years time this could become Canon's best camera, i.e. after magiclanternification

 

[a4jp.com]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

No 4K recording even though 8K monitors are on sale now, 45pt AF, and 1 memory card slot...
Why doesn't Canon try something special?
The rest of the specs look okay though.
I waited years for the Mark 5 IV to come out too only to find out the double cards were both the old type
Maybe it's time to get a sensor and try and make a camera from all these parts.
A Frakencanon lol.

 

[PureClassA]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

I have one question for Canon: "What does the 6D-II offer over the 80D?"

A markedly better, Full Frame sensor? Not that the 80D is a slouch, but come on. Really?

 

[PureClassA]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

No 4K recording even though 8K monitors are on sale now, 45pt AF, and 1 memory card slot...
Why doesn't Canon try something special?
The rest of the specs look okay though.
I waited years for the Mark 5 IV to come out too only to find out the double cards were both the old type
Maybe it's time to get a sensor and try and make a camera from all these parts.
A Frakencanon lol.

Know what's special? The fact that they are going to sell a crap ton of these and make a bunch of money while Nikon is still in a fiscal mess

 

[sanj]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

If dual card slots in the 6dmkii would cannibalize Canon's other sales, adding 4k would be skinning the body and then wearing it while dancing.

Please explain this 'cannibalization' of which you speak. If someone buys a 6DII instead of a 5DIV, how does Canon lose?

Is it possible that the margin on 5d4 is more? Perhaps?

 

[sanj]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

My main interest in 6D is a light body. The size comparison with 5d is not so much.
Does anyone know if version 2 is lighter than original?

 

[PureClassA]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

My main interest in 6D is a light body. The size comparison with 5d is not so much.
Does anyone know if version 2 is lighter than original?

According to rumor the body is slightly bigger, so I'd guess no

 

[StudentOfLight]

Re: Pricing & More Information About the EOS 6D Mark II [CR3]

As someone who owns:
a comprehensive set of EF lenses (8mm to 200mm)
Full frame Canon cameras
Canon 80D

I have one question for Canon: "What does the 6D-II offer over the 80D?"

So far the only thing I'm seeing is 8% higher resolution files (aka 4% larger linear resolution)

A sensor 2.56-times larger, meaning ~1.33 stops more light gathered. What's a stop of light worth? Ask the 300/4 vs 2.8, or the 200/2.8 vs 2.0. Heck, even the 70-200/4 vs 2.8 runs less than the 80D vs 6DII.

My question was more from a point of view of "What have you done for me lately"

1.3 stops more light is not worth much to me as I already have full frame cameras if I need the extra light gathering capability.

(Question: how significant is the Nikon D810's 13.7 stops of DR vs 5D-III's 11 stops of DR? I would assume 1.33 stops of FF vs APS-C would amount to a smaller difference in image quality.)