Samples of Canon 85mm f1.4 IS posted by DPreview

[hendrik-sg]

For me, the samples look like as if are would be quite a lot of CA's? :-[

 

[SecureGSM]

http://www.freelancephotographermelbourne.com.au/Digital-Samples/Canon-EF-85mm-f14L-IS-USM-Lens/i-tLb8wJm/O

quite a bit. attached is: print screen (crop) and 15 seconds defringing effort in LR 7.0.1. fixable but could be a pain in the neck for some in post.

For me, the samples look like as if are would be quite a lot of CA's? :-[

 

[Jopa]

http://www.freelancephotographermelbourne.com.au/Digital-Samples/Canon-EF-85mm-f14L-IS-USM-Lens/i-tLb8wJm/O

quite a bit. attached is: print screen (crop) and 15 seconds defringing effort in LR 7.0.1. fixable but could be a pain in the neck for some in post.

For me, the samples look like as if are would be quite a lot of CA's? :-[

I'm wondering how does it compare to the Sigma 85A's CA?

 

[Viggo]

http://www.freelancephotographermelbourne.com.au/Digital-Samples/Canon-EF-85mm-f14L-IS-USM-Lens/i-tLb8wJm/O

quite a bit. attached is: print screen (crop) and 15 seconds defringing effort in LR 7.0.1. fixable but could be a pain in the neck for some in post.

For me, the samples look like as if are would be quite a lot of CA's? :-[

I'm wondering how does it compare to the Sigma 85A's CA?

Several lenses I would like to see it compared to... I’m climbing the fence with this lens I was sure I was buying.. what to do for portrait lens, medium telephoto for Canon now? I’ve had a few but 85-100 is what I want....

 

[SecureGSM]

https://www.dpreview.com/news/2895939821/sigma-85mm-f1-4-art-gallery-update

image ##101 (www.socialistalternative.org, white on black writing), 72 (www.socialistalternative.org, white on black writing), 73 (www.socialistalternative.org, white on black writing)

doesn't look as bad to me. at least I never had an issue with removing purple/green fringing in my own Sigma 85 Art files. Sigma 85 Art is a keeper in my bag for now.

p.s. I will be conducting exhaustive Sigma 85 Art AF tests on 5D IV with peripheral AF focus points over weekend.

If AF consistency will hit at least 85% mark (50 shots, defocused to infinity, mirror lockup, studio grade tripod, remote shutter release, FoCal A2 size target, 4.25m to target) then I am keeping the Sigma lens. Else, I am upgrading to Canon 85 IS and sweating the fringing out in post.

I'm wondering how does it compare to the Sigma 85A's CA?

 

[Jopa]

http://www.freelancephotographermelbourne.com.au/Digital-Samples/Canon-EF-85mm-f14L-IS-USM-Lens/i-tLb8wJm/O

quite a bit. attached is: print screen (crop) and 15 seconds defringing effort in LR 7.0.1. fixable but could be a pain in the neck for some in post.

For me, the samples look like as if are would be quite a lot of CA's? :-[

I'm wondering how does it compare to the Sigma 85A's CA?

Several lenses I would like to see it compared to... I’m climbing the fence with this lens I was sure I was buying.. what to do for portrait lens, medium telephoto for Canon now? I’ve had a few but 85-100 is what I want....

I think the 85IS is a good one. If I had no Sigma 85A I would probably bought the Canon. Unfortunately we still have no clear winner:
Otus 85: Perfect optics, no AF, no IS
Sigma 85: Super sharp with quite some amount of CA, decent AF, no IS
Canon 85 1.2: Good optically (in the center), best bokeh, slow AF, no IS
Canon 85 1.4 IS: Good optically, great AF and IS

Out of the first 3 I shot I like the Sigma best. In spite the new Canon seems like a great lens, it still does not convince me to swap my Sigma for it. If Canon releases a mirrorless next year, the Sigma's AF accuracy will be "automatically" improved (not speed, but that's ok for me).

 

[Jopa]

doesn't look as bad to me. at least I never had an issue with removing purple/green fringing in my own Sigma 85 Art files. Sigma 85 Art is a keeper in my bag for now.

We are on the same boat

p.s. I will be conducting exhaustive Sigma 85 Art AF tests on 5D IV with peripheral AF focus points over the weekend.

Don't forget to post your findings!

 

[melbournite]

Hi guys, I picked up my copy of the lens a couple of days ago and used it in a shoot yesterday along side the trusted 70-200 IS 2.8. My guess is that the focus speed is very close to 70-200 if not on par. It seems just as accurate as the 70-200 which is always comforting for a f1.4 lens.

For the 1.4 buffs, I went out for a quick stroll and took a gallery of f1.4 ONLY shots. No models willing to pose unfortunately:
https://www.freelancephotographermelbourne.com.au/Digital-Samples/Canon-EF-85mm-f14L-IS-USM-Lens/

Thank you for the samples! Did you mean it's as fast as the 70-200 2.8 IS II or IS I ?

Ah yes, sorry, it is the 70-200 2.8 IS II that I was comparing it to (I will edit and correct that). I haven't done any specific tests but I'm just going by feel and intuition.

 

[Jopa]

Hi guys, I picked up my copy of the lens a couple of days ago and used it in a shoot yesterday along side the trusted 70-200 IS 2.8. My guess is that the focus speed is very close to 70-200 if not on par. It seems just as accurate as the 70-200 which is always comforting for a f1.4 lens.

For the 1.4 buffs, I went out for a quick stroll and took a gallery of f1.4 ONLY shots. No models willing to pose unfortunately:
http://www.freelancephotographermelbourne.com.au/Digital-Samples/Canon-EF-85mm-f14L-IS-USM-Lens/

Thank you for the samples! Did you mean it's as fast as the 70-200 2.8 IS II or IS I ?

Ah yes, sorry, it is the 70-200 2.8 IS II that I was comparing it to (I will edit and correct that). I haven't done any specific tests but I'm just going by feel and intuition.

Wow, that's very impressive, thank you for the clarification. The 70-200 IS II is FAST, and if the 85IS is even 75% as fast, it's quite an achievement (we're talking about 2 stops faster lens!). Same about the accuracy.

 

[melbournite]

https://www.freelancephotographerme...es/Canon-EF-85mm-f14L-IS-USM-Lens/i-tLb8wJm/O

quite a bit. attached is: print screen (crop) and 15 seconds defringing effort in LR 7.0.1. fixable but could be a pain in the neck for some in post.

For me, the samples look like as if are would be quite a lot of CA's? :-[

I don't normally go looking for purple fringing and among other things it's not my biggest concern but since the subject has come up, I went looking for it in some of the images against the sun/sky and found some in the third picture. It's quite a tight crop into the photo as you can see. I simply used the 'defringe' tool slider in Capture One 10. It fixed it mostly but didn't do the same for the boxes.

ps there's no profile for this lens just yet in C1

 

[Jopa]

http://www.freelancephotographermelbourne.com.au/Digital-Samples/Canon-EF-85mm-f14L-IS-USM-Lens/i-tLb8wJm/O

quite a bit. attached is: print screen (crop) and 15 seconds defringing effort in LR 7.0.1. fixable but could be a pain in the neck for some in post.

For me, the samples look like as if are would be quite a lot of CA's? :-[

I don't normally go looking for purple fringing and among other things it's not my biggest concern but since the subject has come up, I went looking for it in some of the images against the sun/sky and found some in the third picture. It's quite a tight crop into the photo as you can see. I simply used the 'defringe' tool slider in Capture One 10. It fixed it mostly but didn't do the same for the boxes.

ps there's no profile for this lens just yet in C1

Sigma:

Original:


Removed:


Crop (worst fragment):

 

[SecureGSM]

Jopa, thanks for the image files provided. CAs are gone in the Sigma "Removed" file for good. Lovely bokeh, btw.

...Sigma:

Original and Removed...

 

[Jopa]

Jopa, thanks for the image files provided. CAs are gone in the Sigma "Removed" file for good. Lovely bokeh, btw.

...Sigma:

Original and Removed...

Sure Alex I just wanted to compare levels of CA for both lenses. To me they look similar. Maybe Sigma has a little less but more pronounced/saturated purple color. It takes about 10 seconds to remove in LR, so shouldn't be a deal breaker again for both lenses. Only once I had a problem removing it from a bike which was also purple (the chrome parts exposed lots of CA), and the bike lost some purple color intensity.

 

[ahsanford]

My copy is in! Got it from the dealer this afternoon. No serious testing yet, AF seems to be very snappy and fast.

It's a very well built thing, 35 II-ish. Quite a bit of weight but in balance on a gripless 5d IV.

Is it just me, or is that a very short lens hood for that FL? Compare edoorn's prior shot vs. two prior EF 85mm primes below.

- A

"...Bueller?"

That hood: tiny, or just me? Seems super tiny (from ePhotoZine, also see edoorn's photo on page 1).

- A

 

[danfaz]

That hood: tiny, or just me? Seems super tiny (from ePhotoZine, also see edoorn's photo on page 1).

- A

Is certainly smaller than the 1.2's and 1.8's hoods, but maybe the different optics in this lens don't require a longer hood?

 

[ahsanford]

That hood: tiny, or just me? Seems super tiny (from ePhotoZine, also see edoorn's photo on page 1).

- A

Is certainly smaller than the 1.2's and 1.8's hoods, but maybe the different optics in this lens don't require a longer hood?

Same FOV, though, right? One would think the only way you'd get equal/proper shading from a shorter hood if if the optical elements were recessed from the front element a good distance.

...or it might be that Canon would rather shade less than it optimally should for the purposes of not taking up a lot of space in your bag when not on the lens. That's the default EF 24-something hood design move for sure, but I'm not used to seeing it for primes. (Did they shorten the 35L II hood over the 35L I?)

- A

 

[cayenne]

I've been excited about this lens. I hope there will be more posts of portraits. From what I see right now I am not sure it is better than the EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS II. Yes, the 85mm is a faster lens, but...

Can we say "more wieldly," or is the proper expression "less unwieldly"?

You have made a good comparison at 85mm, but I also agree with PBD that it seems smoother than the 1.2 II.

The samples include a lot of f/5.6 and higher, which does show sharpness and range, but many of us would be most interested in more samples under f/2.8--especially with twinkly lights in the background.

Hoping reviews (especially Dustin's!) cover ergonomics and AF accuracy on outer points.

(Thanks, Chaitanya.)

PS NOW, CANON, PLEASE DO THIS FOR 50MM!

What's the size difference between the 85mm 1.4 and the 1.2?


C

 

[ahsanford]

What's the size difference between the 85mm 1.4 and the 1.2?
C

https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Lens-Specifications.aspx?Lens=1168&LensComp=397&Units=E

Weight and (housing) OD are similar, but the new one is about 0.75" / 20mm longer.

The shape of the barrel is quite different. The 85 f/1.4L IS is quite similar to the 35L II while the 85 f/1.2L II has that signature 'scoop-out' near the lens mount (similar to the barrel-to-lens-mount transition of the Sony GM lenses).

- A

 

[Jopa]

My copy is in! Got it from the dealer this afternoon. No serious testing yet, AF seems to be very snappy and fast.

It's a very well built thing, 35 II-ish. Quite a bit of weight but in balance on a gripless 5d IV.

Is it just me, or is that a very short lens hood for that FL? Compare edoorn's prior shot vs. two prior EF 85mm primes below.

- A

"...Bueller?"

That hood: tiny, or just me? Seems super tiny (from ePhotoZine, also see edoorn's photo on page 1).

- A

I think it's cool - it makes the lens more compact (with the hood on). I'm wondering why no manufacturer makes collapsible lens hoods.

 

[SecureGSM]

Peripheral AF points test results for Sigma 85 F1.4 Art on Canon 5D IV are in. 54 images were taken sequentialy, in difficult lighting conditions, AV mode, ISO 100, F1.4 and shutter speed ranging from 1/25s to 1/100s, mirror lockup, each shot defocused away to infinity, on stable tripod, remote shutter release, distance to target : 4.25m.

Top left corner cross type AF point was used, Phase Detection Auto Focus. (no live view mode was used).
RAW files were cropped to target size and converted to JPEGs with NO processing, no lens correction, colour, sharpness, noise reduction, etc: absolutely no adjustments made, no down-sampling, etc etc.

result is more than satisfactory.. I am not sure what happened to Dustin Abbott Sigma 85 Art peripheral AF points consistency results on 5D IV body. I would hazard a guess that something was not quite consistent in his test methodology. The sample size of my data is large enough to be conclusive.

AF consistency is : 95.6%


Please note: Lens has been identified as Canon EF24 f/1.4L II at 85mm That's by design.

all test images are available on request.

Test Report is available here:


https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QrtuQdT3Zm2eagtjt2K7g5_V8AwkA4ix

p.s. I will be conducting exhaustive Sigma 85 Art AF tests on 5D IV with peripheral AF focus points over the weekend.

Don't forget to post your findings!